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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:01 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Nsg should stop takeing drugs and go to bed

I love doggos and cats

Mass extermantion of cats is stupid

Not really. Feral cats are a serious ecological problem. Extermination makes sense.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:02 pm



I said cats, not fursuiters!

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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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what about dogs?

We will be dumping all dogs and cats in your immediate vicinity

And they shall be dressed in little suits.
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Postby The Grims » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:07 pm

Scomagia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Nsg should stop takeing drugs and go to bed

I love doggos and cats

Mass extermantion of cats is stupid

Not really. Feral cats are a serious ecological problem. Extermination makes sense.


But humans are an even bigger ecological problem... do we neer to exterminate them as well?

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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:38 pm

Joohan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Sounds like a cat pissed in someone’s Cheerios


I'm more of a smart start guy. Plus, cats are like, total A-holes. Most don't even need to kill, they just suck.

Dogs are a way better, more environmentally friendly, choice.

Dogs spread diseases which kill, maim and blind people. Plus dogs attack and kill humans rather often.

A partial list, just for the US of A.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_d ... ted_States
20 to 30 people per annum killed by dogs.
4.7 million people per annum bitten by dogs, mostly kids.
Rabies, mostly because of dog bites, kills about 50 thousand people per annum.
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Postby Page » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:18 am

Risottia wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I'm more of a smart start guy. Plus, cats are like, total A-holes. Most don't even need to kill, they just suck.

Dogs are a way better, more environmentally friendly, choice.

Dogs spread diseases which kill, maim and blind people. Plus dogs attack and kill humans rather often.

A partial list, just for the US of A.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_d ... ted_States
20 to 30 people per annum killed by dogs.
4.7 million people per annum bitten by dogs, mostly kids.
Rabies, mostly because of dog bites, kills about 50 thousand people per annum.


These problems are the fault of humans. Many of these diseases would be preventable if humans properly cared for their dogs, took them to the vet to get them their shots. And when a dog attacks a human unprovoked, it's typically because the dog was raised to be aggressive.

If a dog is raised right, the chances of it hurting someone who doesn't deserve it is very low. And you can be sure that people who get mauled by a dog because they antagonized the dog don't admit that they brought it on themselves, which artificially inflates the dog attack statistics.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:57 am

Page wrote:
Risottia wrote:Dogs spread diseases which kill, maim and blind people. Plus dogs attack and kill humans rather often.

A partial list, just for the US of A.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_d ... ted_States
20 to 30 people per annum killed by dogs.
4.7 million people per annum bitten by dogs, mostly kids.
Rabies, mostly because of dog bites, kills about 50 thousand people per annum.


These problems are the fault of humans.

Aye. Humans keeping dogs, that's the problem.


Many of these diseases would be preventable if humans properly cared for their dogs, took them to the vet to get them their shots.

Who should take the feral canines to the vet to get their shots?
Also, lyssaviruses predate humanity.

And when a dog attacks a human unprovoked, it's typically because the dog was raised to be aggressive.

Or maybe because it was allowed to grow to begin with.

If a dog is raised right, the chances of it hurting someone who doesn't deserve it is very low.

"Deserve", "right". Weasel words detected.
"Very low". How much? Sources please.

Also, still higher than if dogs were just completely exterminated, as our lovely canine-loving OP suggests we should do with cats.

And you can be sure that people who get mauled by a dog because they antagonized the dog don't admit that they brought it on themselves, which artificially inflates the dog attack statistics.

I think this is called "blame shifting" and "I don't have a source for my claims", isn't it?
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Postby Xmara » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:56 am

Diopolis wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:After countless white supremacist, pro-fascist and other politically extremist posts, NS forums swoop to a new low: advocating for the mass exterminations of cats.

What brave and radical opinions will this haven of free speech bring a few months from now? Dog cooking and eating?

Been there, done that, as well as a thread on exterminating all dogs.
Cannibalism

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Oh, that gets advocated for all the time. We've had threads on it.
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Welcome to NSG.


Somebody I think actually did advocate for cannibalism on here.

EDIT: Found it!
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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:17 am

Risottia wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I'm more of a smart start guy. Plus, cats are like, total A-holes. Most don't even need to kill, they just suck.

Dogs are a way better, more environmentally friendly, choice.

Dogs spread diseases which kill, maim and blind people. Plus dogs attack and kill humans rather often.

A partial list, just for the US of A.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_d ... ted_States
20 to 30 people per annum killed by dogs.
4.7 million people per annum bitten by dogs, mostly kids.
Rabies, mostly because of dog bites, kills about 50 thousand people per annum.

Pft! That's about 100 fewer people then are killed by white-tailed deer.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:21 am

Dogmeat wrote:
Risottia wrote:Dogs spread diseases which kill, maim and blind people. Plus dogs attack and kill humans rather often.

A partial list, just for the US of A.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_d ... ted_States
20 to 30 people per annum killed by dogs.
4.7 million people per annum bitten by dogs, mostly kids.
Rabies, mostly because of dog bites, kills about 50 thousand people per annum.

Pft! That's about 100 fewer people then are killed by white-tailed deer.

Deer are a true menace.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:27 am

The Grims wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Not really. Feral cats are a serious ecological problem. Extermination makes sense.


But humans are an even bigger ecological problem... do we neer to exterminate them as well?

Killing feral cats is not even remotely similar to genociding all humans.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:50 am

Mankind's deadliest biological weapon?

Perfume, easy.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:38 pm

Scomagia wrote:
The Grims wrote:
But humans are an even bigger ecological problem... do we neer to exterminate them as well?

Killing feral cats is not even remotely similar to genociding all humans.

For one thing Cats are much cuter.
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Postby Xmara » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:36 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Mankind's deadliest biological weapon?

Perfume, easy.


Don’t forget public bathrooms, high school cafeteria food, and Taco Bell.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:59 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:After countless white supremacist, pro-fascist and other politically extremist posts, NS forums swoop to a new low: advocating for the mass exterminations of cats.

What brave and radical opinions will this haven of free speech bring a few months from now? Dog cooking and eating? Cannibalism? Human slavery? The possibilities are endless.

Alright look here. I’m as much an animal lover as the next guy, but let’s not act like that applying what is a common form of environmental managment, or even the consumption of dog flesh, is on par with human slavery, canibalism, or the alt right. Honestly it makes your already damn shaken positions fucking laughable.

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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:00 pm

Xmara wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Mankind's deadliest biological weapon?

Perfume, easy.


Don’t forget public bathrooms, high school cafeteria food, and Taco Bell.

Taco Bell is chemical warfare bruh. Now you want to talk biowarfare, this one time I was eating at Olive Garden...

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Postby -Ocelot- » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:03 pm

Sovaal wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:After countless white supremacist, pro-fascist and other politically extremist posts, NS forums swoop to a new low: advocating for the mass exterminations of cats.

What brave and radical opinions will this haven of free speech bring a few months from now? Dog cooking and eating? Cannibalism? Human slavery? The possibilities are endless.

Alright look here. I’m as much an animal lover as the next guy, but let’s not act like that applying what is a common form of environmental managment, or even the consumption of dog flesh, is on par with human slavery, canibalism, or the alt right. Honestly it makes your already damn shaken positions fucking laughable.


The slippery slope argument is bad but then again NSG is a living example of it, so why not?

Dog eating and cannibalism can also be sugarcoated as "environmental management".
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Postby Joohan » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:51 pm

Page wrote:You just know that a cat took a shit on the OP's bed one time in their life...


I actually rather like cats,

But I also like a plethora of other creatures ( Im rather fond of bird watching IRL ), and cats have become extreme threats to the wild life in nearly every environment where they have been placed. The cat population and their roaming habits need to be drastically regulated in order to protect the environment.

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Postby Joohan » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:06 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
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It may come as a shock to most people, but cats are on par with, and in some areas even more dangerous than, humans in terms of environmental destruction. Cats are, but definition, an invasive species everywhere they are present, with the exception of Egypt ( their original ecosystem ). To give a scope of just how destructive cats are to our ecosystem, here are some facts: In 2013, it was estimated that cats killed between 1.3 - 4 billion birds annually, as well as between 6.3-22.3 billion mammals annually ( With the most conservative of estimates, cats kill more birds each year then every hunter in the world combined ); cats have been confirmed to have killed at least 33 species, and are a primary threat to another 36 endangered species; cats are known to spread disease, notably the Toxoplasma gondii parasite, which has killed not only millions of animals but even has begun to affect humans as well; It's not simply feral cats who are to blame for these rash of killings either, with even pets reported to be killing around 2 animals per week, with feral cats killing even more.



It's not a popular opinion, on account of the affection with which the general population views cats with, but it may prove necessary to actively start regulating the cat population so as to mitigate their effect upon the environment ( particularly feral cats ). TNR, trap-neuter-return, is being used by a number of communities in order to mitigate their feral cat population via sterilization. TNR has hadmixed results, with many researchers expressing doubts as to it's effectiveness on account of needing to sterilize around 75% of the population in order for any program to be effective. Some have suggested mandates to keep felines inside during night time, fines for abandoning cats, the legalization of eating cats, legal protection against suits for cats killed on private property, legalization of drowning kittens, legalization of cat traps, and even active campaigns to exterminate feral cats.

What do y'all think should be done about the biological menace this is the cat?

Personally, I am all for feline death squads. Cats are an incredibly invasive species everywhere they go, and their effect upon the local ecosystem needs to be curved by limiting their numbers and when they can go outdoors. I am all for the proactive measures listed above.


what about dogs?


Dogs are no where near as environmentally destructive as dogs

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:12 pm

Joohan wrote:
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what about dogs?


Dogs are no where near as environmentally destructive as dogs


You mean cats. Interestingly dogs are one of the leading killers of kiwi.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:22 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Sounds like a cat pissed in someone’s Cheerios


So cats aren't a dangerous invasive species that we've let get way out of control, and now don't want to deal with it because we subjectively like cats?
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:23 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Dogs are no where near as environmentally destructive as dogs


You mean cats. Interestingly dogs are one of the leading killers of kiwi.


Dogs are easier to control than cats.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:30 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You mean cats. Interestingly dogs are one of the leading killers of kiwi.


Dogs are easier to control than cats.


Somewhat, it's their owners that are difficult to control.
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Postby Xmara » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:56 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Xmara wrote:
Don’t forget public bathrooms, high school cafeteria food, and Taco Bell.

Taco Bell is chemical warfare bruh. Now you want to talk biowarfare, this one time I was eating at Olive Garden...


You overdid it on the breadsticks, didn't you?

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:59 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Dogs are easier to control than cats.


Somewhat, it's their owners that are difficult to control.


Then legislate things like mandated fixing. Outside of breeders of course.
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