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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:10 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
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Tangible proof that the dog's existence is a metaphysical reality, and not just collective hallucination shared by all persons involved, if such persons truly exits and are not themselves hallucinations experienced by me.

Ah, the appeal to solipsism.

The thing is though, even if this is all just a simulation, it's clearly a simulation with rules. And fully exploring and testing those rules, the way science does, would still be our best bet at cluing into the fact that we're in a simulation.

If their dog were to, for instance, show up at many different places, over many decades, with a slightly different appearance each time... all things that don't fit with the established rules of the simulation... that might be a clue that you're actually living in a video game. Though, in fairness, the Super Mutants should have given it away.


Unless the game is significantly more advanced than fallout 4
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Tangible proof that the dog's existence is a metaphysical reality, and not just collective hallucination shared by all persons involved, if such persons truly exits and are not themselves hallucinations experienced by me.

If you're going to embrace solipsistic nonsense then it's clear you're not interested in an honest discussion.


I haven't seen anyone here who's remotely interested in what the other side has to say.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:14 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:If you're going to embrace solipsistic nonsense then it's clear you're not interested in an honest discussion.


I haven't seen anyone here who's remotely interested in what the other side has to say.


In my defense, I have made arguments as to why I believe in a higher power. It's just that nobody has answered them.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:15 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:If you're going to embrace solipsistic nonsense then it's clear you're not interested in an honest discussion.


I haven't seen anyone here who's remotely interested in what the other side has to say.

Then you should stop projecting.
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:17 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I haven't seen anyone here who's remotely interested in what the other side has to say.

Then you should stop projecting.


I'm not projecting. Granted I haven't seen the best arguments thrown around either, but nobody here is actually interested in what the other side to say, everyones only interested in scoring points.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:26 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Then you should stop projecting.


I'm not projecting. Granted I haven't seen the best arguments thrown around either, but nobody here is actually interested in what the other side to say, everyones only interested in scoring points.

Then yes you are projecting, and quite frankly this is just an implicit acknowledgement that you don't have a valid argument.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I'm not projecting. Granted I haven't seen the best arguments thrown around either, but nobody here is actually interested in what the other side to say, everyones only interested in scoring points.

Then yes you are projecting, and quite frankly this is just an implicit acknowledgement that you don't have a valid argument.

No it isn’t. I’m not acknowledging I don’t have valid arguments. Apologetivs is half of what I do every day. The point is you don’t care whether my arguments are valid or not, you’re not receptive to my arguments in any meaning ful sense, you only listen in so much as you know what to respond to. You’re only interested in hearing arguments so that you can spike them down.

Do you care whether or not what you believe is true? Yes or no?
sure but I don’t expect the lot in here to he able to give me any insight one way or another. I mean say I win. Say I win every argument. Ever challenge you have to Christianity, I smack away with impeccable reasoning. Are you gonna say good games shake hands and join the Church? Would you honestly do that? Or would withdraw, do more research brows as many atheist books and blogs as it takes and come back and challenge me with a new argument?
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:30 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Then yes you are projecting, and quite frankly this is just an implicit acknowledgement that you don't have a valid argument.

No it isn’t. I’m not acknowledging I don’t have valid arguments. Apologetivs is half of what I do every day. The point is you don’t care whether my arguments are valid or not, you’re not receptive to my arguments in any meaning ful sense, you only listen in so much as you know what to respond to. You’re only interested in hearing arguments so that you can spike them down.

Do you care whether or not what you believe is true? Yes or no?
sure but I don’t expect the lot in here to he able to give me any insight one way or another. I mean say I win. Say I win every argument. Ever challenge you have to Christianity, I smack away with impeccable reasoning. Are you gonna say good games shake hands and join the Church? Would you honestly do that? Or would withdraw, do more research brows as many atheist books and blogs as it takes and come back and challenge me with a new argument?

If you were able to reasonably support Christianity than I'd already be a Christian yes, I actually care about whether or not what I believe is truth.
The point is you don’t care whether my arguments are valid or not

Please fucking prove this statement since you think you can read my mind, because this is a really arrogant claim to make.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:45 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Dog is good boi and will never abandon you.
God is massive dick who wants to burn you forever.


It's pretty telling that Jesus calls on his disciples to hate even their father and mother, while in Hinduism, a man earns heaven because he is prepared to renounce heaven itself for the sake of one dog.
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Go and study Biblical typology on Jesus' statement before spouting blatantly false propaganda.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:46 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
At least my dog is real.

Dog is good boi and will never abandon you.
God is massive dick who wants to burn you forever.

False. You getting cooked is God letting you be to what you want.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:50 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
It's pretty telling that Jesus calls on his disciples to hate even their father and mother, while in Hinduism, a man earns heaven because he is prepared to renounce heaven itself for the sake of one dog.

Image


Doggo: 01
Deus: 00

Go and study Biblical typology on Jesus' statement before spouting blatantly false propaganda.
Korhal IVV wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Dog is good boi and will never abandon you.
God is massive dick who wants to burn you forever.

False. You getting cooked is God letting you be to what you want.


You're just resorting to bitterness because you haven't actually been able to make an argument without plagiarizing another website.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:53 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:It's pretty telling that Jesus calls on his disciples to hate even their father and mother, while in Hinduism, a man earns heaven because he is prepared to renounce heaven

Go and study Biblical typology on Jesus' statement before spouting blatantly false propaganda.

How about you say why it is "blatantly false propaganda" instead of fobbing us off with "go and study it". Lazy argument. And don't bother just plagiarising the work of someone else; that shit doesn't fly anymore.



Korhal IVV wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Dog is good boi and will never abandon you.
God is massive dick who wants to burn you forever.

False. You getting cooked is God letting you be to what you want.

lol wut.
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:56 pm

Never had a good enough reason to.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:17 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Dog is good boi and will never abandon you.
God is massive dick who wants to burn you forever.

False. You getting cooked is God letting you be to what you want.

Well considering that I don't care for being tortured forever clearly you're full of crap.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:20 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Go and study Biblical typology on Jesus' statement before spouting blatantly false propaganda.

How about you say why it is "blatantly false propaganda" instead of fobbing us off with "go and study it". Lazy argument. And don't bother just plagiarising the work of someone else; that shit doesn't fly anymore.



Korhal IVV wrote:False. You getting cooked is God letting you be to what you want.

lol wut.

"You send yourself to hell" is possibly the single most dishonest as well as dumbest argument you hear from apologists.
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Postby New Legland » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:23 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Dog is good boi and will never abandon you.
God is massive dick who wants to burn you forever.

False. You getting cooked is God letting you be to what you want.

If you're someone who believes that Hell is something created by God, that is as disingenuous as saying that someone who was shot for refusing to give a robber their money committed suicide.

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:50 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Ah, the appeal to solipsism.

The thing is though, even if this is all just a simulation, it's clearly a simulation with rules. And fully exploring and testing those rules, the way science does, would still be our best bet at cluing into the fact that we're in a simulation.

If their dog were to, for instance, show up at many different places, over many decades, with a slightly different appearance each time... all things that don't fit with the established rules of the simulation... that might be a clue that you're actually living in a video game. Though, in fairness, the Super Mutants should have given it away.


Unless the game is significantly more advanced than fallout 4

Cant be, I'm stuck in a chair after trying to access a computer

send help
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Postby Korhal IVV » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:54 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Go and study Biblical typology on Jesus' statement before spouting blatantly false propaganda.
Korhal IVV wrote:False. You getting cooked is God letting you be to what you want.


You're just resorting to bitterness because you haven't actually been able to make an argument without plagiarizing another website.

I will just sit here and laugh.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:56 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
You're just resorting to bitterness because you haven't actually been able to make an argument without plagiarizing another website.

I will just sit here and laugh.

And then copy-paste an article about laughing
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:02 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
You're just resorting to bitterness because you haven't actually been able to make an argument without plagiarizing another website.

I will just sit here and laugh.

You might as well considering you clearly can't make an argument.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:09 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:I will just sit here and laugh.

You might as well considering you clearly can't make an argument.

I simply do not have the same amounts of disposable time as you do.

Or I can write a six page essay while in class. Won't do that for your sake though.

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:I will just sit here and laugh.

And then copy-paste an article about laughing

You don't exist

I can't be bothered to put too much effort on people with an inflated sense of intellectual superiority.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:10 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Genivaria wrote:[/Blocktext]
You might as well considering you clearly can't make an argument.

I simply do not have the same amounts of disposable time as you do.

Or I can write a six page essay while in class. Won't do that for your sake though.

Thuzbekistan wrote:And then copy-paste an article about laughing

You don't exist

I can't be bothered to put too much effort on people with an inflated sense of intellectual superiority.

"Y-you're not worth my time a-nyway!"
Oh this is just childish screaming at this point.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:15 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:I simply do not have the same amounts of disposable time as you do.

Or I can write a six page essay while in class. Won't do that for your sake though.


You don't exist

I can't be bothered to put too much effort on people with an inflated sense of intellectual superiority.

"Y-you're not worth my time a-nyway!"
Oh this is just childish screaming at this point.

Ok.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:17 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You might as well considering you clearly can't make an argument.

I simply do not have the same amounts of disposable time as you do.

Or I can write a six page essay while in class. Won't do that for your sake though.

Thuzbekistan wrote:And then copy-paste an article about laughing

You don't exist

I can't be bothered to put too much effort on people with an inflated sense of intellectual superiority.

I dont exist. I'm a figment of your imagination. The only question left now is why you torture yourself by allowing such manifestations to exist
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Postby Korhal IVV » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:18 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:I simply do not have the same amounts of disposable time as you do.

Or I can write a six page essay while in class. Won't do that for your sake though.


You don't exist

I can't be bothered to put too much effort on people with an inflated sense of intellectual superiority.

"Y-you're not worth my time a-nyway!"
Oh this is just childish screaming at this point.

Ok.
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Against: Adding 100 genders, Gay marriage in a church, heresy, Nazism, abortion for no good reason, anti-vaxxers, SJW liberals, and indecency
This nation does reflect my real-life beliefs.
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