Why do/don't you believe in a higher power? (Any HP)

[Alvecia]

It pretty much was though.

And you have broken out the creepy words with alternating capitalized letters. Wonderful. A mature argument to be sure.

Evil is subjective and deosn't exist. If you drop that low to using the word evil, it's not worth debating.

Careful now, or you'll start a debate about moral relativism and theism. Can't have any Orwellian debate happening in this debate forum.

[Widdle Fae]

Evil is subjective and deosn't exist. If you drop that low to using the word evil, it's not worth debating.

Careful now, or you'll start a debate about moral relativism and theism. Can't have any Orwellian debate happening in this debate forum.

That's true. I just find it funny when people call religion evil when I am not a person to do thing based on moral inclinations.

[Alvecia]

Careful now, or you'll start a debate about moral relativism and theism. Can't have any Orwellian debate happening in this debate forum.

That's true. I just find it funny when people call religion evil when I am not a person to do thing based on moral inclinations.

As an apparant moral relativist, I don't see why you should find it particularly funny that other people have different moral compasses, including ones that could consider religion evil.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Why is it morally bad to debate the existence of God?

It accomplishes little and nobody will change their mind.

Religion has a history of doing that all on its own, so striking it out is entirely justified.

So has many poltical systems but you are not trying to kill them off.

Doesn't make it morally wron.g

[Widdle Fae]

It accomplishes little and nobody will change their mind.

So has many poltical systems but you are not trying to kill them off.

Doesn't make it morally wron.g

I don't do things morally. I do things whether or not, it is useful or not useful and whether or not the discussion has a place for benefit at an individulistic level.

[Ifreann]

Evil is subjective and deosn't exist. If you drop that low to using the word evil, it's not worth debating.

Careful now, or you'll start a debate about moral relativism and theism. Can't have any Orwellian debate happening in this debate forum.

We need to deal with the real issues. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

[Kowani]

Doesn't make it morally wron.g

I don't do things morally. I do things whether or not, it is useful or not useful and whether or not the discussion has a place for benefit at an individulistic level.

Finally, someone else who has been enlightened.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Doesn't make it morally wron.g

I don't do things morally. I do things whether or not, it is useful or not useful and whether or not the discussion has a place for benefit at an individulistic level.

Why did you say that it was morally wrong though?

[Widdle Fae]

I don't do things morally. I do things whether or not, it is useful or not useful and whether or not the discussion has a place for benefit at an individulistic level.

Why did you say that it was morally wrong though?

I was overreacting my apologies.

[Tarsonis]

Evil is subjective and deosn't exist. If you drop that low to using the word evil, it's not worth debating.

Careful now, or you'll start a debate about moral relativism and theism. Can't have any Orwellian debate happening in this debate forum.

How about Rasczakian debate? "Violence, the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived."

[Tarsonis]

I don't do things morally. I do things whether or not, it is useful or not useful and whether or not the discussion has a place for benefit at an individulistic level.

Finally, someone else who has been enlightened.

Utilitarianism isn't the height of enlightenment.

[Neutraligon]

Why did you say that it was morally wrong though?

I was overreacting my apologies.

That doesn't answer the question or make any sense.

[Rimir]

As for me, I am a through-and-through protestant Christian, and have had several instances where there is no choice but to believe He exists. For example, back in 2012, my grandfather got cancer. He was in the hospital for about a year, and he spent a lot of time asking God to heal him before christmas so he could spend it at home. At around 6:30 EST, Christmas Eve, the doctors found that his cancer was completely gone. Completely. He had stage 3, and it was totally gone.

Bah, got a bit personal there. but anyhow, that's why I have no doubt that there is a god. specifically the Christian one.

[Neutraligon]

As for me, I am a through-and-through protestant Christian, and have had several instances where there is no choice but to believe He exists. For example, back in 2012, my grandfather got cancer. He was in the hospital for about a year, and he spent a lot of time asking God to heal him before christmas so he could spend it at home. At around 6:30 EST, Christmas Eve, the doctors found that his cancer was completely gone. Completely. He had stage 3, and it was totally gone.

Bah, got a bit personal there. but anyhow, that's why I have no doubt that there is a god. specifically the Christian one.

Can cancer go into remission on its own without god responding? Also, why did god choose to heal your grandfather while ignoring all the other people who are begging him for aid?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Why did you say that it was morally wrong though?

I was overreacting my apologies.

Very well.

[The New California Republic]

It pretty much was though.

And you have broken out the creepy words with alternating capitalized letters. Wonderful. A mature argument to be sure.

Okay, let’s just ignore that Christ specifically told the disciples to be pacifists. And then your premise is valid. K.

A lot of Christians clearly didn't get the memo.

[The New California Republic]

Religion has a history of doing that all on its own, so striking it out is entirely justified.

So has many poltical systems but you are not trying to kill them off.

The fuck? Where did I say that I was "trying to kill them off"?

[Neutraligon]

Okay, let’s just ignore that Christ specifically told the disciples to be pacifists. And then your premise is valid. K.

A lot of Christians clearly didn't get the memo.

God is clearly not non-violent. I mean...Jesus's actions with the money lenders was not non-violent.

[Korhal IVV]

Okay, let’s just ignore that Christ specifically told the disciples to be pacifists. And then your premise is valid. K.

A lot of Christians clearly didn't get the memo.

That is exactly the problem you are looking for. Happy?

Its the people in the religion. Not the religion itself.

A lot of Christians clearly didn't get the memo.

God is clearly not non-violent. I mean...Jesus's actions with the money lenders was not non-violent.

Who said that God is not the one with the right of dealing out judgement when a holy temple built in His name is filled with scammers who scam tired pilgrims for huge profits? Your dog?

[The New California Republic]

A lot of Christians clearly didn't get the memo.

That is exactly the problem you are looking for. Happy?

Its the people in the religion. Not the religion itself.

It's actually impossible to separate them, unless you think a religion could exist with no people following it...? Ergo, it is a problem of the religion itself.

[Hanafuridake]

Who said that God is not the one with the right of dealing out judgement when a holy temple built in His name is filled with scammers who scam tired pilgrims for huge profits? Your dog?

At least my dog is real.

[Genivaria]

Who said that God is not the one with the right of dealing out judgement when a holy temple built in His name is filled with scammers who scam tired pilgrims for huge profits? Your dog?

At least my dog is real.

Dog is good boi and will never abandon you.
God is massive dick who wants to burn you forever.

[Tarsonis]

Who said that God is not the one with the right of dealing out judgement when a holy temple built in His name is filled with scammers who scam tired pilgrims for huge profits? Your dog?

At least my dog is real.

Prove it

[The New California Republic]

At least my dog is real.

Prove it

I'm sure they will provide a photo that includes both them and their dog, if you ask nicely.

[Tarsonis]

Prove it

I'm sure they will provide a photo that includes both them and their dog, if you ask nicely.

That doesn't actually prove the dog exists.