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Korhal IVV
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Postby Korhal IVV » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:11 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote: :lol2:

You like having it all too much, don’t you?

Huh? Is it just me, or does this sound creepy as fuck? :?

That is one implication when someone replies with “sex haver”.

Or its just my perception of people who speak that way.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:13 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Huh? Is it just me, or does this sound creepy as fuck? :?

That is one implication when someone replies with “sex haver”.

It was different ways of saying the same thing, not implying the poster was a promiscuous person. Not that it matters if they are. That question was just dumb
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:13 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Huh? Is it just me, or does this sound creepy as fuck? :?

That is one implication when someone replies with “sex haver”.

Not really no, no more than someone being a 'food eater' would imply that they are morbidly obese or some shit.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:13 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Huh? Is it just me, or does this sound creepy as fuck? :?

That is one implication when someone replies with “sex haver”.

Your response was aimed squarely at Alvecia, you were asking a really inappropriate question about their sex life. Honestly man it was really fucking creepy.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:15 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:That is one implication when someone replies with “sex haver”.

Your response was aimed squarely at Alvecia, you were asking a really inappropriate question about their sex life. Honestly man it was really fucking creepy.

Acknowledged.

I suck at social cues.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:17 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Your response was aimed squarely at Alvecia, you were asking a really inappropriate question about their sex life. Honestly man it was really fucking creepy.

Acknowledged.

I suck at social cues.

Sure.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:21 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Your response was aimed squarely at Alvecia, you were asking a really inappropriate question about their sex life. Honestly man it was really fucking creepy.

Acknowledged.

I suck at social cues.

Seriously man I'm actually concerned here, about why the hell you just asked a question about someone's sex life. It had nothing to do with social cues, and everything to do with not creeping everyone the fuck out with highly inappropriate questions. It's just plain bad, possibly one of the most inappropriate personal questions that I've ever seen on NSGeneral.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:23 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
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What exactly is so controversial about Korhal's definition of Christian?


Because hes trying to exclude literally hundreds of millions of Christians


I read his treatise, nothing in there excludes Christians. What specifically are you pointing to that excludes these hundreds of millions?
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Postby Page » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:32 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
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That's quite an interesting combination of words.

Should I change it to “fornicator” for simplicity’s sake?


I was more so wondering about the implications of using the word penetration. Is your view like that of the Roman Empire where it's okay for a man to penetrate another man but not okay to be the man who is penetrated? Is promiscuous oral sex a lesser sin? There's just all kinds of questions that stem from that choice of words.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:34 am

Page wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Should I change it to “fornicator” for simplicity’s sake?


I was more so wondering about the implications of using the word penetration. Is your view like that of the Roman Empire where it's okay for a man to penetrate another man but not okay to be the man who is penetrated? Is promiscuous oral sex a lesser sin? There's just all kinds of questions that stem from that choice of words.

Also, why is it bad?

I mean, I get lust is a sin and all, but what if its between two loving couples who just want to express their love but don't want a baby/are gay?
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:41 am

Korhal IVV wrote:Define “violent.”

The games I play don’t even have blood. At most, I only have exploding space ships.

This is the actual point of the article: “God does not want us to feel the rush of getting back at others. That only fuels the fires of our human carnal nature and enhances the feelings of power and pride. Isn’t that the mind of Satan?”

The concerns here is that children will get a vengeful attitude from such portrayals, and it apparently doesn’t so as research says. The sentiment against VG’s is a common trope amingst older Christians (baby boomers, mostly) but it is not an absolute in Scripture. The Bible’s definition of a Christian is very loud and clear, but it says nothing about seeing two dimensional starships exploding in a screen, or armies clashing.

Since when was revenge a sin?
Like, according to the Old Testament, God has repeatedly destroyed cities as revenge for them not conforming to his standards of morality. He sent plagues to Egypt as revenge for enslaving the Jews. He exiled humanity from Eden as revenge for them gaining knowledge - not even doing anything with it, literally just knowing things. I mean, I see what you're getting at here, but God has a track record of acting like an angry teenager who throws nuke-level temper tantrums whenever things don't go his way. Unless, of course, you want to go back to the argument that God doesn't have to follow his own rules.

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Postby The Feylands » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:02 am

I doubt there are any mythological super-duper good “True Christians™” who aren’t the least bit hypocritical around, whatsoever. And we should probably be happy that there aren’t. -.-

Since that would require people being some sort of robots only following strict rules programmed into their heads.

And being idealistic all the time would result in one ending up in la-la-la fantasyland as reality doesn’t fit into one’s ideals.

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Postby Korhal IVV » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:33 pm

The Feylands wrote:I doubt there are any mythological super-duper good “True Christians™” who aren’t the least bit hypocritical around, whatsoever. And we should probably be happy that there aren’t. -.-

Since that would require people being some sort of robots only following strict rules programmed into their heads.

And being idealistic all the time would result in one ending up in la-la-la fantasyland as reality doesn’t fit into one’s ideals.

:)

If someone comes to you and calls themself a perfect Christian, bash them on the head, and tell them I told you to.

The good Christian knows better than anyone else that he is an unworthy human being. Paul’s and Peter’s letters make this as clear as dawn.

Your viewpoint is obviously skewed, but whatever, eldar.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:43 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Define “violent.”

The games I play don’t even have blood. At most, I only have exploding space ships.

This is the actual point of the article: “God does not want us to feel the rush of getting back at others. That only fuels the fires of our human carnal nature and enhances the feelings of power and pride. Isn’t that the mind of Satan?”

The concerns here is that children will get a vengeful attitude from such portrayals, and it apparently doesn’t so as research says. The sentiment against VG’s is a common trope amingst older Christians (baby boomers, mostly) but it is not an absolute in Scripture. The Bible’s definition of a Christian is very loud and clear, but it says nothing about seeing two dimensional starships exploding in a screen, or armies clashing.

Since when was revenge a sin?
Like, according to the Old Testament, God has repeatedly destroyed cities as revenge for them not conforming to his standards of morality. He sent plagues to Egypt as revenge for enslaving the Jews. He exiled humanity from Eden as revenge for them gaining knowledge - not even doing anything with it, literally just knowing things. I mean, I see what you're getting at here, but God has a track record of acting like an angry teenager who throws nuke-level temper tantrums whenever things don't go his way. Unless, of course, you want to go back to the argument that God doesn't have to follow his own rules.

1. Sodom and Gomorrah weren’t vengeance. So was Canaan. Even you’d cringe on their utter moral trash heap. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed as per their moral degradation, and would have been spared had there been ten righteous people in them. A good comparison of these cities in fiction is the utter edgefest that is Commoragh.

As for Canaan, complete expulsion would be the proper word, as reading Joshua on the context of ANE military narrative tells you that is all hyperbole. You can’t exactly intermarry or make treaties with someone you just annihilated (the Israelites are prohibited later on in Joshua), and Jabin of Hazor shouldn’t even exist if it was merely a vengeful ethnic cleaning.

2. “Vengeance is the Lord’s.” The Jews were crying out for deliverance, and they had it.

3. Punishment and revenge are two different things.

4. “Temper tantrums” is in zero ways appropriate in this context. Also, things are going only when He allows it. So, not really “whenever things don’t go His way”.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:45 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
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I was more so wondering about the implications of using the word penetration. Is your view like that of the Roman Empire where it's okay for a man to penetrate another man but not okay to be the man who is penetrated? Is promiscuous oral sex a lesser sin? There's just all kinds of questions that stem from that choice of words.

Also, why is it bad?

I mean, I get lust is a sin and all, but what if its between two loving couples who just want to express their love but don't want a baby/are gay?

I don’t know about not wanting a baby. As long as they are married, nothing wrong.

As for gays, it deviates from the original design as per Adam and Eve. It is called sexual deviance.

Note that practicing it is what is forbidden; mere feelings are not.
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Postby Cerinda » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:53 pm

I don't believe in a god or higher power because there little to zero scientific evidence to prove one exists. As someone who has Autism, Dyslexia and Anxiety (I am also going to the doctor tomorrow to see if I have depression), I don't know what kind of god would allow me to exist.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:16 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:As for gays, it deviates from the original design as per Adam and Eve. It is called sexual deviance.

Good thing that Adam and Eve didn't exist, and thus renders the entire argument moot.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:18 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:As for gays, it deviates from the original design as per Adam and Eve. It is called sexual deviance.

Good thing that Adam and Eve didn't exist, and thus renders the entire argument moot.


And, for the sake of argument, assuming they did, that would mean incest was part of the divine plan.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:23 pm

If Adam and Eve was real as some bible truthers say we would've bred ourselves into extinction within 4 generations.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:33 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:As for gays, it deviates from the original design as per Adam and Eve. It is called sexual deviance.

Good thing that Adam and Eve didn't exist, and thus renders the entire argument moot.


Jesus also said that marriage may only be between a man and a wiman, regardless.

What makes you so sure?

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The New California Republic wrote:Good thing that Adam and Eve didn't exist, and thus renders the entire argument moot.


And, for the sake of argument, assuming they did, that would mean incest was part of the divine plan.

It was prohibited later by the Mosiac Law.

It was part, yes. But not for long.

Cerinda wrote:I don't believe in a god or higher power because there little to zero scientific evidence to prove one exists. As someone who has Autism, Dyslexia and Anxiety (I am also going to the doctor tomorrow to see if I have depression), I don't know what kind of god would allow me to exist.

There is no evidence if you always discount the evidence.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If Adam and Eve was real as some bible truthers say we would've bred ourselves into extinction within 4 generations.

They lived for almost one millennia back then so not really.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:52 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:Jesus also said that marriage may only be between a man and a wiman, regardless.

...so?

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Korhal IVV wrote:What makes you so sure?

Evolution. We evolved from primates according to copious volumes of evidence, we didn't just pop into existence because of a deity.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If Adam and Eve was real as some bible truthers say we would've bred ourselves into extinction within 4 generations.

They lived for almost one millennia back then so not really.

And that is a crock of shit too. Telomere shortening makes that an impossibility.

And a long life wouldn't stop the inbred as fuck offspring from being produced with severe disabilities and congenital defects. There simply would not have been enough genetic diversity. The human genome would have become a homozygous mess and then it is sayonara human race...
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:03 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Acknowledged.

I suck at social cues.

Seriously man I'm actually concerned here, about why the hell you just asked a question about someone's sex life. It had nothing to do with social cues, and everything to do with not creeping everyone the fuck out with highly inappropriate questions. It's just plain bad, possibly one of the most inappropriate personal questions that I've ever seen on NSGeneral.


Honestly, it was maybe a six out of ten on the creepyness scale. Not going to talk about the deleted, but there have been creepier subjects brought up. And even repeatedly.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:48 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Jesus also said that marriage may only be between a man and a wiman, regardless.

...so?

Also:

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Korhal IVV wrote:What makes you so sure?

Evolution. We evolved from primates according to copious volumes of evidence, we didn't just pop into existence because of a deity.

Korhal IVV wrote:They lived for almost one millennia back then so not really.

And that is a crock of shit too. Telomere shortening makes that an impossibility.

And a long life wouldn't stop the inbred as fuck offspring from being produced with severe disabilities and congenital defects. There simply would not have been enough genetic diversity. The human genome would have become a homozygous mess and then it is sayonara human race...

I never denied evolution though.

Theistic evolution exists, alongside the Gap Theory and the Time Relative Theory.
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Postby New Legland » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:55 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:...so?

Also:

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Evolution. We evolved from primates according to copious volumes of evidence, we didn't just pop into existence because of a deity.


And that is a crock of shit too. Telomere shortening makes that an impossibility.

And a long life wouldn't stop the inbred as fuck offspring from being produced with severe disabilities and congenital defects. There simply would not have been enough genetic diversity. The human genome would have become a homozygous mess and then it is sayonara human race...

I never denied evolution though.

Theistic evolution exists, alongside the Gap Theory and the Time Relative Theory.

And the whole living-for-one-thousand-years thing?

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Postby New Legland » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:56 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Cerinda wrote:I don't believe in a god or higher power because there little to zero scientific evidence to prove one exists. As someone who has Autism, Dyslexia and Anxiety (I am also going to the doctor tomorrow to see if I have depression), I don't know what kind of god would allow me to exist.

There is no evidence if you always discount the evidence.

There is no evidence because it hasn't been provided.

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