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Postby Andsed » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:05 pm

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I get the feeling that you're a troll. Also, anarchist and monarchist? What?

That's cute that you think I'm a troll, I'm kind of flattered. I'm actually a pretty prolific poster who's been around since 2011 here.

What I mean by anarcho-monarchy is a federation of local democratic agricultural communes owing nominal loyalty to a king who has little functional power.

Huh so a kind of blend between a more decentralized feudalism and constitutional monarchy? Interesting idea.
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United Muscovite Nations wrote:That's cute that you think I'm a troll, I'm kind of flattered. I'm actually a pretty prolific poster who's been around since 2011 here.

What I mean by anarcho-monarchy is a federation of local democratic agricultural communes owing nominal loyalty to a king who has little functional power.

Huh so a kind of blend between a more decentralized feudalism and constitutional monarchy? Interesting idea.

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Postby Celritannia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:11 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
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Not exactly, it is more complex then that.
But explain to me how the Western World became Christian.

It all boils down to Paul going to Macedonia instead of China.

Eventually, 1/20th of the Roman Empire’s population became Christian by the time of Constantine. The Christian Church would then expand into the rest of Europe, North Africa, Palestine, Syria, and Transjordan.

Yes, through military imperialist conquests, forcing local European peoples to either become Christian or die by the Sword. If it was not for Constantine and the well connected Roman Empire before its fall, Christianity would never have travelled throughout Europe.

Because Europe was the bastion of Christianity (no matter how warped Christianity became under the corruptions of the Catholic Church, which were fortunately remedied by the Council of Trent as well as Martin Luther spawning the Protestant Reformation), the Age of Colonization had European (and thus, predominantly Christian) states colonising the New World. That is how the Western World became an entity associated with Christianity.


YEs, again, through military imperialists conquests, forcing indigenous peoples and tribes to become Christian through missionaries or die by an impalement of bullets. India never subjected to Christianity, nor China. But South America and the Philippines are Roman Catholic because of Imperialistic ambitions and forced conversion, and the North Americas and Australasia became Protestant due to the British taking over land due to imperialists conquests.

There seems to be a running theme with how places became Christian, doesn't there?
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:17 am

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That's a false statement.

No, it's not


Yes it is, as someone previously stated, either all prophecies have been fulfilled in the bible, or are so vague they can be fulfilled at any time.
Making God in the modern day unnecessary as people change religion and how God is for the modern day. A prime example is the King James Bible, or even the Jefferson Bible.
But people don't follow everything in the Bible or What the Abrahamic God has has state today.

IT is nothing more than a Christian Apologeti' s approach to say why God and religion is relevant today.

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Postby Celritannia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:24 am

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Page wrote:The whole notion of God judging us is ludicrous. If God is an omnipotent, omniscient being, then we are to God what bacteria are to us. Do you have any interest in which bacteria are good and which bacteria are sinful? We are infinitely closer to bacteria than we are to an all-powerful God. Compared to such a being, we are hardly even sentient.

If there's a God, the last thing he cares about is human affairs. That humans think a god would have human emotions like love and jealousy points to god being made by man.

I was racking my brain trying to think of why God created us. Obly reason I could think of was... well... to be totally honest.... boredom...


So life is just one big sim's game to this Abraham God? No wonder there are a lot of glitches in this games of life.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:29 am

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Australian rePublic wrote:I was racking my brain trying to think of why God created us. Obly reason I could think of was... well... to be totally honest.... boredom...


So life is just one big sim's game to this Abraham God? No wonder there are a lot of glitches in this games of life.

Has anyone found the cheat to add 50,000 of a currency to one's account yet? :p
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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:32 am

The New California Republic wrote:
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So life is just one big sim's game to this Abraham God? No wonder there are a lot of glitches in this games of life.

Has anyone found the cheat to add 50,000 of a currency to one's account yet? :p

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Postby Celritannia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:36 am

Christian Confederation wrote:I think it's just human nature to believe in a higher power.
I personally believe in God because that's what I was taught and as far as I can tell is accurate. Because Jerusalem exists, scintists agree that the flood happened, plus year after year more and more planets are found to have no life make earth apear more and more likely to have been put here by some higher power.
So unless someone can prove me wrong I will believe in God.


No scientist has stated a world wide flood happened, and the amount of evidence to say no flood happened is overwhelming.

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Postby Celritannia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:48 am

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The New California Republic wrote:Has anyone found the cheat to add 50,000 of a currency to one's account yet? :p

Maduro’s rumored to know it.


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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:57 am

Celritannia wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:I think it's just human nature to believe in a higher power.
I personally believe in God because that's what I was taught and as far as I can tell is accurate. Because Jerusalem exists, scintists agree that the flood happened, plus year after year more and more planets are found to have no life make earth apear more and more likely to have been put here by some higher power.
So unless someone can prove me wrong I will believe in God.


No scientist has stated a world wide flood happened, and the amount of evidence to say no flood happened is overwhelming.

It is interesting to note here that for a purported world wide flood the Japanese have no myths as far as I know about this event happening. <.<
One would think an omnipotent and omniscient god entity would've informed/included the Japanese in his worldwide omnicide but apparently no.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:28 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
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No scientist has stated a world wide flood happened, and the amount of evidence to say no flood happened is overwhelming.

It is interesting to note here that for a purported world wide flood the Japanese have no myths as far as I know about this event happening. <.<
One would think an omnipotent and omniscient god entity would've informed/included the Japanese in his worldwide omnicide but apparently no.


This was actually used in the 19th century by nativist scholars to assert that the Western account of the Flood proved that Japan was on higher ground than other lands and thus was the most superior country in the world. There is something deeply ironic about “heathens” using literalist's interpretation of the Bible to argue for the superiority of their own religion.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:49 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:It is interesting to note here that for a purported world wide flood the Japanese have no myths as far as I know about this event happening. <.<
One would think an omnipotent and omniscient god entity would've informed/included the Japanese in his worldwide omnicide but apparently no.


This was actually used in the 19th century by nativist scholars to assert that the Western account of the Flood proved that Japan was on higher ground than other lands and thus was the most superior country in the world. There is something deeply ironic about “heathens” using literalist's interpretation of the Bible to argue for the superiority of their own religion.


All the more reason to trust the Japanese gods, and the emperor is a descendant of the Sun goddess XD

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Postby Korhal IVV » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:07 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:It all boils down to Paul going to Macedonia instead of China.

Eventually, 1/20th of the Roman Empire’s population became Christian by the time of Constantine. The Christian Church would then expand into the rest of Europe, North Africa, Palestine, Syria, and Transjordan.

Yes, through military imperialist conquests, forcing local European peoples to either become Christian or die by the Sword. If it was not for Constantine and the well connected Roman Empire before its fall, Christianity would never have travelled throughout Europe.

Because Europe was the bastion of Christianity (no matter how warped Christianity became under the corruptions of the Catholic Church, which were fortunately remedied by the Council of Trent as well as Martin Luther spawning the Protestant Reformation), the Age of Colonization had European (and thus, predominantly Christian) states colonising the New World. That is how the Western World became an entity associated with Christianity.


YEs, again, through military imperialists conquests, forcing indigenous peoples and tribes to become Christian through missionaries or die by an impalement of bullets. India never subjected to Christianity, nor China. But South America and the Philippines are Roman Catholic because of Imperialistic ambitions and forced conversion, and the North Americas and Australasia became Protestant due to the British taking over land due to imperialists conquests.

There seems to be a running theme with how places became Christian, doesn't there?

And yet, should the Apostles be alive during the Age of Colonization and other imperialistic takeovers, they would have denounced anyone using religious reasons for such undertakings. It can be said that the Church lost its way during the time it became a political entity under Roman tutelage.

To be fair, many "religious" people are actually no more than unaware, non-practicing atheists/agnostics. A good example are the masses of the industrial revolution, who more or less didn't care about religion. Same goes for the majority of the population of, say, the American colonies, few of whom went there for religious reasons, and much of the European population in general. If they were all Christian, then there would be no need for movements like the Great Awakening. And yet, there was a need for such movements.
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Korhal IVV wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Yes, through military imperialist conquests, forcing local European peoples to either become Christian or die by the Sword. If it was not for Constantine and the well connected Roman Empire before its fall, Christianity would never have travelled throughout Europe.



YEs, again, through military imperialists conquests, forcing indigenous peoples and tribes to become Christian through missionaries or die by an impalement of bullets. India never subjected to Christianity, nor China. But South America and the Philippines are Roman Catholic because of Imperialistic ambitions and forced conversion, and the North Americas and Australasia became Protestant due to the British taking over land due to imperialists conquests.

There seems to be a running theme with how places became Christian, doesn't there?

And yet, should the Apostles be alive during the Age of Colonization and other imperialistic takeovers, they would have denounced anyone using religious reasons for such undertakings. It can be said that the Church lost its way during the time it became a political entity under Roman tutelage.

To be fair, many "religious" people are actually no more than unaware, non-practicing atheists/agnostics. A good example are the masses of the industrial revolution, who more or less didn't care about religion. Same goes for the majority of the population of, say, the American colonies, few of whom went there for religious reasons, and much of the European population in general. If they were all Christian, then there would be no need for movements like the Great Awakening. And yet, there was a need for such movements.

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Postby Celritannia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:50 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Yes, through military imperialist conquests, forcing local European peoples to either become Christian or die by the Sword. If it was not for Constantine and the well connected Roman Empire before its fall, Christianity would never have travelled throughout Europe.



YEs, again, through military imperialists conquests, forcing indigenous peoples and tribes to become Christian through missionaries or die by an impalement of bullets. India never subjected to Christianity, nor China. But South America and the Philippines are Roman Catholic because of Imperialistic ambitions and forced conversion, and the North Americas and Australasia became Protestant due to the British taking over land due to imperialists conquests.

There seems to be a running theme with how places became Christian, doesn't there?

And yet, should the Apostles be alive during the Age of Colonization and other imperialistic takeovers, they would have denounced anyone using religious reasons for such undertakings. It can be said that the Church lost its way during the time it became a political entity under Roman tutelage.

To be fair, many "religious" people are actually no more than unaware, non-practicing atheists/agnostics. A good example are the masses of the industrial revolution, who more or less didn't care about religion. Same goes for the majority of the population of, say, the American colonies, few of whom went there for religious reasons, and much of the European population in general. If they were all Christian, then there would be no need for movements like the Great Awakening. And yet, there was a need for such movements.



No, the apostles were at the height of Augustus, not colonisation, you seemed to be mixing up your time periods here,

Have you considered manifest destiny? Or have you replaced that from your memory, or the actual colonisation of North America from the 1600s? Do you actually understand the problems between the missionaries and the first peoples of the Americas?

As a side note, there is no such thing as a practising or non-practising atheist. Atheism is not a religion.
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Seems like there is a lack of investment into this thread now, seems a shame.

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Celritannia wrote:Seems like there is a lack of investment into this thread now, seems a shame.

Well, to be fair, this thread did get pretty heated at times, so it can be understandable that some would turn away. Many people were hostile in here.
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What is?
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