Supreme Court and LGBT Job Bias

[El-Amin Caliphate]

That should be written out and replaced.

I'd be ok with him/her shopping, I'd take precautions tho.

^This

Yeah I'd rather not have a Nazi walking around my home...

Weren't you talking about businesses? Which could be in a home, so you have a point. But why not just take precautions?

[Kannap]

And it sucks Congress won't do it at the moment, but that doesn't suddenly mean SCOTUS can start just writing legislation.

Unfortunately, a lot of people are less interested in SCOTUS functioning as intended than they are in SCOTUS acting as an end run around the difficult and frustrating process of passing legislation.

More like people are interested in SCOTUS taking up the mantle to pass a decision that Congress is going to continue to fail to pass and American citizens are going to continue to suffer.

[Kannap]

Once again, equality should be afforded to all.

What does that even mean?

That all American citizens should have equal rights.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Unfortunately, a lot of people are less interested in SCOTUS functioning as intended than they are in SCOTUS acting as an end run around the difficult and frustrating process of passing legislation.

More like people are interested in SCOTUS taking up the mantle to pass a decision that Congress is going to continue to fail to pass and American citizens are going to continue to suffer.

That's not how the system works though.

[The New California Republic]

Yeah I'd rather not have a Nazi walking around my home...

Weren't you talking about businesses? Which could be in a home, so you have a point. But why not just take precautions?

A bulletproof Plexiglas divider and an intercom sounds like the right level of precaution.

[Vassenor]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

That should be written out and replaced.

Which in the current political climate will just lead to Islam being entirely outlawed in the United States.

[Scomagia]

You know if it was that Christianity would probably become our state religion, right? It likely wouldn't be good for Islam.

Well I was thinking more of a democratic theocracy, not an Islamic country.

Theocracy is garbage. Worship and keep to the morals of your faith, by all means, but don't try and corrupt the state with your religion or corrupt your religion with the state.

[Scomagia]

Unfortunately, a lot of people are less interested in SCOTUS functioning as intended than they are in SCOTUS acting as an end run around the difficult and frustrating process of passing legislation.

More like people are interested in SCOTUS taking up the mantle to pass a decision that Congress is going to continue to fail to pass and American citizens are going to continue to suffer.

All I hear is you whining about how difficult legislation is and then, therefore, seeking to pervert the legitimate function of the judicial branch to meet your ends. That is shameful and, frankly, undemocratic.

[Scomagia]

What does that even mean?

That all American citizens should have equal rights.

In the context of an employer hiring an employee you can not have purely "equal rights". There is a reasonable place for discrimination in hiring practices. You people need to be a lot more specific about you want.

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

All I hear is you whining about how difficult legislation is and then, therefore, seeking to pervert the legitimate function of the judicial branch to meet your ends. That is shameful and, frankly, undemocratic.

Hear, hear. There is such thing as separation of powers.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Well I was thinking more of a democratic theocracy, not an Islamic country.

Theocracy is garbage. Worship and keep to the morals of your faith, by all means, but don't try and corrupt the state with your religion or corrupt your religion with the state.

Al-Islam doesn't corrupt anything and cannot be corrupted.

[Scomagia]

Theocracy is garbage. Worship and keep to the morals of your faith, by all means, but don't try and corrupt the state with your religion or corrupt your religion with the state.

Al-Islam doesn't corrupt anything and cannot be corrupted.

Obviously this conversation is doomed to go nowhere fast. I'll keep that in mind so that the next time I have the desire to communicate with you I won't waste my time.

[Arkhane]

Isn't discrimination and exclusion a part of the hiring process? Considering that there are more accepting and tolerant companies and businesses compared to the past, there's very little need for the state to inject itself into private business decisions.

I'd rather starve and be unemployed than work and make a homophobic boss or company profit and advance in life.

[Kannap]

That all American citizens should have equal rights.

In the context of an employer hiring an employee you can not have purely "equal rights". There is a reasonable place for discrimination in hiring practices. You people need to be a lot more specific about you want.

Equal rights that every other American has sounds like a specific statement of what we want.

In the specifics of employment, we want there to be no discrimination of hiring practices solely because somebody's sexual orientation similar to how such discrimination protections already exist for sex, race, skin color, or religion.

[NERVUN]

Your all liberal retards. So you won't listen to reason no matter how much we show you any logical reason. Let Discrimination against LGBTQ+ it wont be long till they allow pedos.

Take a week vacation. *** One week ban for trolling ***

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Theocracy is garbage. Worship and keep to the morals of your faith, by all means, but don't try and corrupt the state with your religion or corrupt your religion with the state.

Al-Islam doesn't corrupt anything and cannot be corrupted.

Wow, look at all those varying SECTS!

No corruption there, amirite!?

[Kannap]

Isn't discrimination and exclusion a part of the hiring process? Considering that there are more accepting and tolerant companies and businesses compared to the past, there's very little need for the state to inject itself into private business decisions.

The state already does - employers cannot discriminate on the basis of religion, sex, race, or skin color.

[Vassenor]

Isn't discrimination and exclusion a part of the hiring process? Considering that there are more accepting and tolerant companies and businesses compared to the past, there's very little need for the state to inject itself into private business decisions.

I'd rather starve and be unemployed than work and make a homophobic boss or company profit and advance in life.

"It's not discrimination if you can go somewhere else"

Everybody drink.

[Arkhane]

Isn't discrimination and exclusion a part of the hiring process? Considering that there are more accepting and tolerant companies and businesses compared to the past, there's very little need for the state to inject itself into private business decisions.

The state already does - employers cannot discriminate on the basis of religion, sex, race, or skin color.

And now we know why there are still thriving and successful bigots, sexists and racists today. That law protects both sides you know. They may be forced to comply, but their hatred still exist, but instead of it leading to ruin, it's preserved by their compliance with the law.

[Arkhane]

Isn't discrimination and exclusion a part of the hiring process? Considering that there are more accepting and tolerant companies and businesses compared to the past, there's very little need for the state to inject itself into private business decisions.

I'd rather starve and be unemployed than work and make a homophobic boss or company profit and advance in life.

"It's not discrimination if you can go somewhere else"

Everybody drink.

I didn't say it wasn't discrimination. It's literally in the first line. And neither did I say I can go somewhere else or have alternatives, which is the last line.

[Scomagia]

In the context of an employer hiring an employee you can not have purely "equal rights". There is a reasonable place for discrimination in hiring practices. You people need to be a lot more specific about you want.

Equal rights that every other American has sounds like a specific statement of what we want.

In the specifics of employment, we want there to be no discrimination of hiring practices solely because somebody's sexual orientation similar to how such discrimination protections already exist for sex, race, skin color, or religion.

That's better phrased. So, you have a problem with discrimination based on certain immutable characteristics. I can agree.

[Telconi]

Isn't discrimination and exclusion a part of the hiring process? Considering that there are more accepting and tolerant companies and businesses compared to the past, there's very little need for the state to inject itself into private business decisions.

I'd rather starve and be unemployed than work and make a homophobic boss or company profit and advance in life.

"It's not discrimination if you can go somewhere else"

Everybody drink.

You probably should drink to things people don't say. I hear alcohol poisoning is not fun.

[Scomagia]

"It's not discrimination if you can go somewhere else"

Everybody drink.

I didn't say it wasn't discrimination. It's literally in the first line.

Don't worry about it. Vassenor does this a lot. They seize on one part of a post so they can make a smug, vaguely related post to mock and deride.

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

Christian businesses shouldn't be worried imo. Every way you cut it, this doesn't impact them badly. Assuming homosexuals will want to work for an anti-gay business, either they can be rejected in favor of a better candidate or the business receives a valuable worker, even if they don't necessarily agree with all the businesses moral tenets. And if the homosexual worker doesn't feel comfortable doing his job he can just be fired.

[Vassenor]

I didn't say it wasn't discrimination. It's literally in the first line.

Don't worry about it. Vassenor does this a lot. They seize on one part of a post so they can make a smug, vaguely related post to mock and deride.

Considering that the thrust of the argument was that the state should not be able to intervene if the person being discriminated against has the possibility to go somewhere else, maybe you should put what was itself "a smug, vaguely related post to mock and deride" back in its box.