Supreme Court and LGBT Job Bias

[Ostroeuropa]

Given the court precedent on gay marriage being based on gender discrimination protections, this seems pretty solid.

That line of reasoning always seemed off to me. Like I’m far from upset at gay marriage being legal but the logic that it being illegal is gender discrimination feels too shaky for comfort.

I think it makes some degree of sense. "Why can't I marry bob?" -> "Because you are a man, if you were a woman, you could.".

[Ors Might]

That line of reasoning always seemed off to me. Like I’m far from upset at gay marriage being legal but the logic that it being illegal is gender discrimination feels too shaky for comfort.

I think it makes some degree of sense. "Why can't I marry bob?" -> "Because you are a man, if you were a woman, you could.".

That sounds to me like a matter of framing that could go either way. Hence the shakiness. It’s not completely illogical, it just seems like a somewhat weak legal argument.

[Kowani]

I think it makes some degree of sense. "Why can't I marry bob?" -> "Because you are a man, if you were a woman, you could.".

That sounds to me like a matter of framing that could go either way. Hence the shakiness. It’s not completely illogical, it just seems like a somewhat weak legal argument.

I can tell you that any SCOTUS that criminalized gay marriage would go down in history as the worst court since Dred Scott.

[Ors Might]

That sounds to me like a matter of framing that could go either way. Hence the shakiness. It’s not completely illogical, it just seems like a somewhat weak legal argument.

I can tell you that any SCOTUS that criminalized gay marriage would go down in history as the worst court since Dred Scott.

I feel like Wickard would have a pretty solid claim to that distinct honor.

[Kowani]

I can tell you that any SCOTUS that criminalized gay marriage would go down in history as the worst court since Dred Scott.

I feel like Wickard would have a pretty solid claim to that distinct honor.

Remember who you’re talking to, mate.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Given the court precedent on gay marriage being based on gender discrimination protections, this seems pretty solid.

That line of reasoning always seemed off to me. Like I’m far from upset at gay marriage being legal but the logic that it being illegal is gender discrimination feels too shaky for comfort.

It wasn’t a gender discrimination ruling, it was an equal protection ruling, which is very much valid according to the text of the 14th amendment.

[Ors Might]

I feel like Wickard would have a pretty solid claim to that distinct honor.

Remember who you’re talking to, mate.

My opinion of you wasn’t so low as to think you liked that botched coat hanger abortion of a ruling.

[Ors Might]

That line of reasoning always seemed off to me. Like I’m far from upset at gay marriage being legal but the logic that it being illegal is gender discrimination feels too shaky for comfort.

It wasn’t a gender discrimination ruling, it was an equal protection ruling, which is very much valid according to the text of the 14th amendment.

Then I don’t really have an objection to it.

[Kowani]

Remember who you’re talking to, mate.

My opinion of you wasn’t so low as to think you liked that botched coat hanger abortion of a ruling.

I may not agree with the legal methodology used to get there, but if it gets me results…

[Ors Might]

My opinion of you wasn’t so low as to think you liked that botched coat hanger abortion of a ruling.

I may not agree with the legal methodology used to get there, but if it gets me results…

The methodology was so cancerous that I am convinced that ninety five percent of all malign tumors in America can be traced back to this one ruling.

[Kowani]

I may not agree with the legal methodology used to get there, but if it gets me results…

The methodology was so cancerous that I am convinced that ninety five percent of all malign tumors in America can be traced back to this one ruling.

That was good.

[Ors Might]

The methodology was so cancerous that I am convinced that ninety five percent of all malign tumors in America can be traced back to this one ruling.

That was good.

Four am and I’m able to get a zinger in. Almost makes me feel not angry over the stupidity of the ruling.

Not engaging in interstate commerce counts as engaging in interstate commerce.

[Bread Herbert]

This is an old thread.

[Kowani]

That was good.

Four am and I’m able to get a zinger in. Almost makes me feel not angry over the stupidity of the ruling.

Not engaging in interstate commerce counts as engaging in interstate commerce.

I mean, technically they’re not wrong. Not engaging in interstate commerce counts as affecting interstate commerce.

[Ors Might]

Four am and I’m able to get a zinger in. Almost makes me feel not angry over the stupidity of the ruling.

Not engaging in interstate commerce counts as engaging in interstate commerce.

I mean, technically they’re not wrong. Not engaging in interstate commerce counts as affecting interstate commerce.

This is the kind of technicality that earns the person that originally made the argument a swift pop to the mouth.

[Kowani]

I mean, technically they’re not wrong. Not engaging in interstate commerce counts as affecting interstate commerce.

This is the kind of technicality that earns the person that originally made the argument a swift pop to the mouth.

I believe assaulting a SCOTUS judge would go poorly for you.

[Ors Might]

This is the kind of technicality that earns the person that originally made the argument a swift pop to the mouth.

I believe assaulting a SCOTUS judge would go poorly for you.

I am a tool of justice, used against Justices. I would die contentedly.

[Kowani]

I believe assaulting a SCOTUS judge would go poorly for you.

I am a tool of justice, used against Justices. I would die contentedly.

“The Free Marketplace of Ideas”

[Ors Might]

I am a tool of justice, used against Justices. I would die contentedly.

“The Free Marketplace of Ideas”

Hey. Hey. Hey.

You stop that, sir.

[Kowani]

“The Free Marketplace of Ideas”

Hey. Hey. Hey.

You stop that, sir.

Nah.

[Ors Might]

Hey. Hey. Hey.

You stop that, sir.

Nah.

no bulli no tread

[Kaltovar]

Given the court precedent on gay marriage being based on gender discrimination protections, this seems pretty solid.

That line of reasoning always seemed off to me. Like I’m far from upset at gay marriage being legal but the logic that it being illegal is gender discrimination feels too shaky for comfort.

As a married gay man, I agree that it's a little concerning. I do understand however that law is law, and lawyers have to use any method they can to get their results.

If it weren't for the fact it's so generally accepted I might care enough to want to see specific legislation passed about it ... As it stands I'd be more worried about the riders they stuffed into that hypothetical bill than I am now about having my marriage invalidated.

My opinion on that might change if the political climate does, but as it stands even my most conservative friends consider gay marriage far at the bottom of their issues bin (and even then a surprising number of them support it)

The most serious negative consequence I've experienced was being disowned by my family at 18 years old and having to totally fend for myself, and violence in my hometown but that's behind me now (and that town has changed). I just find it hard to get worked up over such minor hypothetical issues after experiencing that.

Random story: Me and my now husband were followed home by a mob of drunks harassing us at night ( like 4-6 people) and our straight roomie got them to disperse by leaning out the window and pointing a semiauto AK at them. Love that guy to this day and will never forget their faces, because the last thing they said to him before he grabbed the rifle and they ran was "Yeah right you don't have a gun faggot"

Edit: The reason he threatened them with a gun was because they were starting to throw bottles at the side of the apartment and threatening to "Come up there"

[Frisbeeteria]

This is an old thread.

This is a gravedug thread. iLock.