Supreme Court and LGBT Job Bias

[The South Falls]

In business, you should not have the right to hire/fire based on race, sexual orientation, etc.

What is included in "etc."?

Gender, class, religion, national origin

[Arayas]

They say equal rights but what they really mean is institutionalized privilege not to be denied employment for any reason.

You can see this with how they applauded Uruguay reserving jobs specifically for homosexuals and transexuals. Literally instiutionalized bias if favor of anyone who is gay or transexual.

"Equal rights"

[Kannap]

The state already does - employers cannot discriminate on the basis of religion, sex, race, or skin color.

And now we know why there are still thriving and successful bigots, sexists and racists today. That law protects both sides you know. They may be forced to comply, but their hatred still exist, but instead of it leading to ruin, it's preserved by their compliance with the law.

So the law is making society worse by preventing bigots, sexists, and racists from successfully exercising their bigotry, sexism, and racism?

[The South Falls]

They say equal rights but what they really mean is institutionalized privilege not to be denied employment for any reason.

You can see this with how they applauded Uruguay reserving jobs specifically for homosexuals and transexuals. Literally instiutionalized bias if favor of anyone who is gay or transexual.

"Equal rights"

You got a source, or proof? You just pulling it out of your ass?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Depends what kind of employer it is. If it's a religious employer, it should be allowed to discriminate based on religious belief, which could include LGBT activity.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Depends what kind of employer it is. If it's a religious employer, it should be allowed to discriminate based on religious belief, which could include LGBT activity.

Well pda is against worksite rules in most profession so that point is moot.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Depends what kind of employer it is. If it's a religious employer, it should be allowed to discriminate based on religious belief, which could include LGBT activity.

Well pda is against worksite rules in most profession so that point is moot.

I mean more something like an explicitly Christian business not employing actively homosexual people. I could understand that. However, if the business isn't explicitly religious, they have no business discriminating on those grounds.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Well pda is against worksite rules in most profession so that point is moot.

I mean more something like an explicitly Christian business not employing actively homosexual people. I could understand that. However, if the business isn't explicitly religious, they have no business discriminating on those grounds.

Wdym by "actively homosexual"?

[United Muscovite Nations]

I mean more something like an explicitly Christian business not employing actively homosexual people. I could understand that. However, if the business isn't explicitly religious, they have no business discriminating on those grounds.

Wdym by "actively homosexual"?

I think it's kind of self-explanatory.

[Kannap]

They say equal rights but what they really mean is institutionalized privilege not to be denied employment for any reason.

You can see this with how they applauded Uruguay reserving jobs specifically for homosexuals and transexuals. Literally instiutionalized bias if favor of anyone who is gay or transexual.

"Equal rights"

No, I say equal rights because - as I've championed throughout this thread - people cannot be discriminated against in hiring processes for other immutable features of their person: skin color, race, sex. People can even be protected from hiring discrimination solely based on their religion, which is something that can change with time. So why not another immutable feature: Sexual orientation?

I like that homophobes feel like their own rights are threatened and LGBT people are receiving some kind of "special treatment" when they get granted the same rights as heterosexual people.

[Internationalist Bastard]

They say equal rights but what they really mean is institutionalized privilege not to be denied employment for any reason.

You can see this with how they applauded Uruguay reserving jobs specifically for homosexuals and transexuals. Literally instiutionalized bias if favor of anyone who is gay or transexual.

"Equal rights"

You say this as though I want to be handed a job, and not looked over for a job

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Wdym by "actively homosexual"?

I think it's kind of self-explanatory.

Evidently not.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I think it's kind of self-explanatory.

Evidently not.

Okay then, I mean people who actively participate in homosexual sex, rather than simply having homosexual attractions.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I mean more something like an explicitly Christian business not employing actively homosexual people. I could understand that. However, if the business isn't explicitly religious, they have no business discriminating on those grounds.

Wdym by "actively homosexual"?

It means they actively engage in homosexual relationships.
So members of the lgbt community choose not engage in said activities for a multitude of reasons

[Kannap]

I mean more something like an explicitly Christian business not employing actively homosexual people. I could understand that. However, if the business isn't explicitly religious, they have no business discriminating on those grounds.

Wdym by "actively homosexual"?

Anybody born gay, obviously.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Evidently not.

Okay then, I mean people who actively participate in homosexual sex, rather than simply having homosexual attractions.

Like I said, pda is against workplace rules in most professions so your point is moot.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Okay then, I mean people who actively participate in homosexual sex, rather than simply having homosexual attractions.

Like I said, pda is against workplace rules in most professions so your point is moot.

That’s actually a good point

[United Muscovite Nations]

Okay then, I mean people who actively participate in homosexual sex, rather than simply having homosexual attractions.

Like I said, pda is against workplace rules in most professions so your point is moot.

Doesn't mean off-work things aren't important for some religious employers.

[Kannap]

Okay then, I mean people who actively participate in homosexual sex, rather than simply having homosexual attractions.

Like I said, pda is against workplace rules in most professions so your point is moot.

UMN is just concerned about my Thomas Daley calendar in my cubicle.

[Kannap]

Like I said, pda is against workplace rules in most professions so your point is moot.

Doesn't mean off-work things aren't important for some religious employers.

Ah, employers that want to have authority or say over aspects of their employee's lives that occur in their employee's private lives are a high level of creepy.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Doesn't mean off-work things aren't important for some religious employers.

Ah, employers that want to have authority or say over aspects of their employee's lives that occur in their employee's private lives are a high level of creepy.

For something like clerical work, it actually is very important because there are organizational rules forbidding certain behaviors.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Like I said, pda is against workplace rules in most professions so your point is moot.

Doesn't mean off-work things aren't important for some religious employers.

So I can fire people because I dislike what they do in the privacy of their homes?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Ah, employers that want to have authority or say over aspects of their employee's lives that occur in their employee's private lives are a high level of creepy.

For something like clerical work, it actually is very important because there are organizational rules forbidding certain behaviors.

If they are actively homosexual they probably aren’t going to volunteer for religious work at a church that isn’t ok with them in the first place

[United Muscovite Nations]

Doesn't mean off-work things aren't important for some religious employers.

So I can fire people because I dislike what they do in the privacy of their homes?

Depends what your organization's "code of ethics" is.

[United Muscovite Nations]

For something like clerical work, it actually is very important because there are organizational rules forbidding certain behaviors.

If they are actively homosexual they probably aren’t going to volunteer for religious work at a church that isn’t ok with them in the first place

It's more common than you think.