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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:11 pm

The Naravid Dynasty wrote:
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I’ve seen kids wear less at the beach. Skin =\= sexual.[/]
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What’s the issue? That you think it’s impossible to not be sexual at a bar, or that it’s impossible to be sexual at a beach?

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Postby Kannap » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:11 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I’m gonna assume you’re talking about the gay bars.

Yes, as homosexual is a sexual orientation and shows that go on at homosexual bars will very likely be sexual


heterosexual is a sexual orientation and shows that go on at grocery stores where the majority patrons are heterosexual will very likely be sexual

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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:11 pm

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Alvecia wrote:You don’t have to be gay to go to a gay bar you know. They don’t ask you to suck a dick on entry. Nor does it mean that anything sexual will necessarily happen.

Exactly. The notion that gay bars are all sex clubs is just plain wrong.

A male kid with little clothing there though...
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Postby The Naravid Dynasty » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:11 pm

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The difference is that a normal bar doesn't need to have sexual stuff. It's not the point. A normal bar is, well, a bar.

And a gay bar can also just be a bar. Sexual stuff does not need to happen there. It just happens that the clients tend to be homosexual.



It's literally in the name.

Homosexual Bar.

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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:11 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:The same [people personwho initially pushed for gay marriage on this site are now saying that children dressed in drag having money thrown at them at sex bars isn't a big deal.

But apparently the slippery slope was just a myth. It's not like people predicted this or anything. When the community defends this, I think it's about time I throw in the towel. I'm not sure if I'm coming back from this hiatus.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:12 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:The same people who initially pushed for gay marriage on this site are now saying that children dressed in drag having money thrown at them at sex bars isn't a big deal.
Show that this is a sex bar because what makes a gay bar a gay bar is that it tends to have clients that are gay.

But apparently the slippery slope was just a myth. It's not like people predicted this or anything. When the community defends this, I think it's about time I throw in the towel. I'm not sure if I'm coming back from this hiatus.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:12 pm

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Maybe not inherently, but it’s asinine to assume there aren’t sexual references in this situation.

Show them because I am not seeing them.

I will ask again, if this kid was paid to have the exact same act on broadway would you have an issue?

I would, yes.
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Postby The Naravid Dynasty » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:12 pm

The South Falls wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The same [people personwho initially pushed for gay marriage on this site are now saying that children dressed in drag having money thrown at them at sex bars isn't a big deal.

But apparently the slippery slope was just a myth. It's not like people predicted this or anything. When the community defends this, I think it's about time I throw in the towel. I'm not sure if I'm coming back from this hiatus.

ftfy

Maybe it's just me but i'm seeing more than one person advocate for this

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Postby Kannap » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Yes, as homosexual is a sexual orientation and shows that go on at homosexual bars will very likely be sexual

Not been to many gay bars either, I reckon.


Everybody knows gay bars only exist for legally sanctioned orgies, we spend American tax dollars to have police guard the doors too! :rofl:
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. The notion that gay bars are all sex clubs is just plain wrong.

A male kid with little clothing there though...

That's one bar filled with fucked up people.
The Naravid Dynasty wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:And a gay bar can also just be a bar. Sexual stuff does not need to happen there. It just happens that the clients tend to be homosexual.



It's literally in the name.

Homosexual Bar.

Heterosexual bar means guys and girls will be fucking on the floors.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. The notion that gay bars are all sex clubs is just plain wrong.

A male kid with little clothing there though...

The only reason you think something is going to happen is because you have hypersexualized gay bars in your head in the first instance, rather than this being about the kid as such.
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Postby Mardla » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Yes, as he's wearing little clothing.

I’ve seen kids wear less at the beach. Skin =\= sexual.

A kid wearing a speedo at the beach is not sexual. A kid sitting in a man's lap isn't sexual. A kid being spanked isn't sexual. A kid calling a man daddy isn't sexual.

But all of these would be if in a particular context. Let's not pretend context is irrelevant, or else men will get divorces over other man giving CPR to their wives.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

The Naravid Dynasty wrote:
The South Falls wrote:ftfy

Maybe it's just me but i'm seeing more than one person advocate for this

You might be seeing double.
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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Kannap wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Yes, as homosexual is a sexual orientation and shows that go on at homosexual bars will very likely be sexual


heterosexual is a sexual orientation and shows that go on at grocery stores where the majority patrons are heterosexual will very likely be sexual

I too can spew nonsense and use the code to bold a word repeatedly.

Grocery stores are not 'straight bars'.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

The Naravid Dynasty wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:And a gay bar can also just be a bar. Sexual stuff does not need to happen there. It just happens that the clients tend to be homosexual.



It's literally in the name.

Homosexual Bar.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

The Naravid Dynasty wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:And a gay bar can also just be a bar. Sexual stuff does not need to happen there. It just happens that the clients tend to be homosexual.



It's literally in the name.

Homosexual Bar.

Which simply means the clients tend to be homosexual, nothing more. It says nothing about whether the bar tends to be sexual in nature. You know those nice jazz bars that people go to, well one of those can be a gay bar simply because it happens to be a place where homosexuals happen to hang out.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

The Naravid Dynasty wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:And a gay bar can also just be a bar. Sexual stuff does not need to happen there. It just happens that the clients tend to be homosexual.



It's literally in the name.

Homosexual Bar.

Homosexual isn’t a statement of intent you know.

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Postby Kannap » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:14 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:You are aware that sexual stuff between strait individuals happens in normal bars correct? Does that make normal bars sexual?

No, as they're not for any specific sexual orientation.


Gay bars aren't for any real specific sexual orientation either, if you think about it, I know more straight women who go to gay bars than gay men who go to gay bars.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:14 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. The notion that gay bars are all sex clubs is just plain wrong.

A male kid with little clothing there though...

It doesn't mean that all gay bars are like that though.

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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:14 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Kannap wrote:
heterosexual is a sexual orientation and shows that go on at grocery stores where the majority patrons are heterosexual will very likely be sexual

I too can spew nonsense and use the code to bold a word repeatedly.

Grocery stores are not 'straight bars'.

Straight bars are straight bars.
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Postby The Naravid Dynasty » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:14 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:A male kid with little clothing there though...

That's one bar filled with fucked up people.
The Naravid Dynasty wrote:

It's literally in the name.

Homosexual Bar.

Heterosexual bar means guys and girls will be fucking on the floors.


Well, i haven't seen a single bar in my life that's classified as a "Heterosexual Bar".

They're just bars.

Because they're not centered on being sexual. Gay people can go there too.
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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:15 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:A male kid with little clothing there though...

It doesn't mean that all gay bars are like that though.

We're not debating gay bars...
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:15 pm

The Naravid Dynasty wrote:
The South Falls wrote:That's one bar filled with fucked up people.

Heterosexual bar means guys and girls will be fucking on the floors.


Well, i haven't seen a single bar in my life that's classified as a "Heterosexual Bar".

They're just bars.
So are gay bars

They are just full of fucking gay people. And no that does not mean gay people currently carrying out the act of fucking.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:15 pm

The Naravid Dynasty wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:You are aware that sexual stuff between strait individuals happens in normal bars correct? Does that make normal bars sexual?


This is an homosexual bar, you goddamn meme. Being sexual Is literally the entire point.


Firstly, you're taking a synonym for the word "gay" to prove a point that doesn't exist.

They're gay bars, nobody calls them homosexual bars. Being sexual is literally not the entire point. Buying and consuming alcoholic drinks - typically around a table with friends doing the same - is the point of a bar.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:15 pm

Alvecia wrote:
The Naravid Dynasty wrote:

It's literally in the name.

Homosexual Bar.

Homosexual isn’t a statement of intent you know.

Yea, it doesn't mean fucking everywhere.
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