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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:47 am

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Secularism needs to fill this alleged "gap".


*beep* Sorry Hans, wrong guess, do you want to go to double jeopardy were the score can really change?

More seriously however, the gap is being made and filled at the same time. Most christians do not actively practice christianity, considering it as unremarkable as hair colour.


I mean, you can say that, but its not really true.
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Postby Settrah » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:50 am

If people who support this take a page out of feminism's book, they'll probably support people oversexualizing children on purpose, champion it, parade them half naked, and then when a pedophile eventually takes an interest they'll turn around and claim it's victim blaming to suggest maybe not throwing their child into a situation that's highly questionable without risk assessing.

"Why can't the pedophile just not like little children though?"

You oversexualized your child Susan. Take some responsibility.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:51 am

Settrah wrote:If people who support this take page out of feminism's book, they'll probably support people oversexualizing children on purpose, champion it, parade them half naked, and then when a pedophile takes an interest they'll turn around and claim it's victim blaming to suggest maybe not throwing their child into a situation that's highly questionable without risk assessing.

Can you show this is the sexualization of children. I have not seen the performance so I can't say one way or another.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:51 am

Settrah wrote:If people who support this take page out of feminism's book, they'll probably support people oversexualizing children on purpose, champion it, parade them half naked, and then when a pedophile takes an interest they'll turn around and claim it's victim blaming to suggest maybe not throwing their child into a situation that's highly questionable without risk assessing.

Of course, hardly anyone supports this.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:52 am

If this where done on broadway (the exact same act in front of adults and yes being paid) would you all have an issue? Children are used in broadway shows all the time.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:52 am

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Absolutely, this is not a good thing and his parents need to be held accountable for these actions. However, it's not an excuse to attack the LGBT community at large via "slippery slope" fallacies.

It is still an great reason to attack those who support this. If they're from the LGBT Community, that's not my problem


Are we talking a slippery slope as in legalizing same sex marriage led to this boy? If so, the slippery slope fallacy is once against just silly nonsense.

Argue against his parents and the people who support this kid dancing around in gay bars for adult men, sure, but attacking the entirety of the LGBT community - most of which opposes things like this - isn't the answer.
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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:53 am

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Agarntrop wrote:Ok, but this is not to be used as something to attack the LGBT community at large. Nethertheless, I am not politically correct, and think this is a form of child abuse.


How is it child abuse? Is Desmond being physically, emotionally, or sexually abused? No? Then I cannot see any evidence of child abuse.

Getting a person under 18 (never mind eleven) to strip and have money thrown at them is pretty obviously sexual abuse.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:54 am

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How is it child abuse? Is Desmond being physically, emotionally, or sexually abused? No? Then I cannot see any evidence of child abuse.

Getting a person under 18 (never mind eleven) to strip and have money thrown at them is pretty obviously sexual abuse.

Prove this person is stripping. Drag shows and strip shows are not the same thing.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:54 am

Settrah wrote:If people who support this take page out of feminism's book, they'll probably support people oversexualizing children on purpose, champion it, parade them half naked, and then when a pedophile eventually takes an interest they'll turn around and claim it's victim blaming to suggest maybe not throwing their child into a situation that's highly questionable without risk assessing.

"Why can't the pedophile just not like little children though?"

You oversexualized your child Susan. Take some responsibility.

Perhaps some people should take a step back and consider why it is they consider a 10 year old boys stomach to be sexual

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:54 am

Agarntrop wrote:
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How is it child abuse? Is Desmond being physically, emotionally, or sexually abused? No? Then I cannot see any evidence of child abuse.

Getting a person under 18 (never mind eleven) to strip and have money thrown at them is pretty obviously sexual abuse.

It isn't a strip show, it is a drag show ffs...
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:55 am

Settrah wrote:If people who support this take a page out of feminism's book, they'll probably support people oversexualizing children on purpose, champion it, parade them half naked, and then when a pedophile eventually takes an interest they'll turn around and claim it's victim blaming to suggest maybe not throwing their child into a situation that's highly questionable without risk assessing.

"Why can't the pedophile just not like little children though?"

You oversexualized your child Susan. Take some responsibility.


I mean, if you're done strawmanning, let me simply point out that drag isn't inherently sexual.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:55 am

There is a section of the LGBT community that is passively sympathetic to paedophilia, but it's not the majority. The reason this shit is particularly getting past the radar is that some people are pushing it under "free expression", "letting kids be themselves", or even "triggering the right". A fair number of those cheering probably are useful idiots not thinking about the deeper unsavoury connections and connotations.
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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:55 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Getting a person under 18 (never mind eleven) to strip and have money thrown at them is pretty obviously sexual abuse.

It isn't a strip show, it is a drag show ffs...

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Looks like stripping to me...
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:56 am

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It isn't a strip show, it is a drag show ffs...

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Looks like stripping to me...

You haven’t been to many strip clubs, have you.

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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:56 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Getting a person under 18 (never mind eleven) to strip and have money thrown at them is pretty obviously sexual abuse.

It isn't a strip show, it is a drag show ffs...


Exactly.

Good lord, 90% of this thread seems to think "drag performance" means "erotic dancing and sex acts".
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:56 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
How is it child abuse? Is Desmond being physically, emotionally, or sexually abused? No? Then I cannot see any evidence of child abuse.

Getting a person under 18 (never mind eleven) to strip and have money thrown at them is pretty obviously sexual abuse.

I don't think the child actually stripped, but what happened is still pretty bad regardless.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:56 am

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It isn't a strip show, it is a drag show ffs...

Image
Looks like stripping to me...

How does that look like stripping? That looks like a kid dressed up in his sisters clothing with makeup on.
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Agarntrop wrote:Image
Looks like stripping to me...

You haven’t been to many strip clubs, have you.

No. I'll admit that as I'm 13. Lol.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 am

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It isn't a strip show, it is a drag show ffs...

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Looks like stripping to me...


Then every person who goes in public wearing jeans and exposing their mid riff is also stripping?
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Postby Settrah » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 am

Alvecia wrote:
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Looks like stripping to me...

You haven’t been to many strip clubs, have you.


That's not a very well thought out burn.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 am

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It isn't a strip show, it is a drag show ffs...

Image
Looks like stripping to me...

You can see motion from a photograph...? :blink:

:roll:

And no. It still isn't a strip show.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 am

While drag shows aren’t inherently sexual, what is happening here is definitely immoral and criminal. But by no means do I think this is reason to bash the LGBT community which is highly in condemnation of this.
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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Image
Looks like stripping to me...

How does that look like stripping? That looks like a kid dressed up in his sisters clothing with makeup on.

He's having money thrown at him...
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Postby The Naravid Dynasty » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 am

Kannap wrote:
The Naravid Dynasty wrote:It is still an great reason to attack those who support this. If they're from the LGBT Community, that's not my problem


Are we talking a slippery slope as in legalizing same sex marriage led to this boy? If so, the slippery slope fallacy is once against just silly nonsense.

Argue against his parents and the people who support this kid dancing around in gay bars for adult men, sure, but attacking the entirety of the LGBT community - most of which opposes things like this - isn't the answer.


I'm not saying that, i'm saying that just letting people do stuff like this is a slippery slope. First you're talking about how it's okay for children to be in drag, next you're talking about about how it's okay for children in drag to dance in Adult gay bars, then next what?
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Getting a person under 18 (never mind eleven) to strip and have money thrown at them is pretty obviously sexual abuse.

I don't think the child actually stripped, but what happened is still pretty bad regardless.


You've been saying that for pages now, but you've not actually justified WHY its allegedly "pretty bad".
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