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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:33 am

Mardla wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I hardly see how adultry is bad if everyone consents to it


I don't know what your moral criteria are.


If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.

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Internationalist Bastard
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:34 am

Mardla wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I hardly see how adultry is bad if everyone consents to it


I don't know what your moral criteria are.

I mean, like, if in this case all three people are fine with it, it doesn’t really matter if the boinking is adultry because everyone is aware and ok with it
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Internationalist Bastard
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:35 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Mardla wrote:
I don't know what your moral criteria are.


If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.

Or barnyard doors
Or club room doors
Or library doors
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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:36 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.

Or barnyard doors
Or club room doors
Or library doors


You say that as if you boinked behind all of 'em.

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Internationalist Bastard
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:37 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Or barnyard doors
Or club room doors
Or library doors


You say that as if you boinked behind all of 'em.

:?
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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:38 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
You say that as if you boinked behind all of 'em.

:?


You did...you bloody did!

*runs to fainting couch*

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Page
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Postby Page » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:38 am

Ifreann wrote:I don't really care what configurations people have their relationships in, but these two wanting this badly to be as identical as possible seems weird as fuck. What's going to happen when their poor children aren't identical? What if one has a boy and the other has a girl?


Lots of parents have this problem though, expecting that their child will be exactly how they want the child to be, that the kid will share the same interests as the parents, the same values, the same beliefs, the same politics. They think their kid will never want to wear clothes or style their hair in a way that the parents hate, and some actually forget that one day their child will grow up into an independent adult.

IMO everyone who wants to have kids should first ask themselves if they will be okay if their child is completely different than what they're expecting, and only those who can accept that should have children.
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Mardla
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Postby Mardla » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:38 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.


until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment
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Postby Jebslund » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:40 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.


until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment

You say this like it would be a bad thing. If someone else's definition of marriage ruins the sanctity of yours, the problem is your weak convictions/faith, not their marriage.

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Ifreann wrote:I don't really care what configurations people have their relationships in, but these two wanting this badly to be as identical as possible seems weird as fuck. What's going to happen when their poor children aren't identical? What if one has a boy and the other has a girl?


Lots of parents have this problem though, expecting that their child will be exactly how they want the child to be, that the kid will share the same interests as the parents, the same values, the same beliefs, the same politics. They think their kid will never want to wear clothes or style their hair in a way that the parents hate, and some actually forget that one day their child will grow up into an independent adult.

IMO everyone who wants to have kids should first ask themselves if they will be okay if their child is completely different than what they're expecting, and only those who can accept that should have children.

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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:42 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.


until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment


You act as if polygamy is this new dangfangled thing "deh degenerate youngins" are all gossiping about when it has been a thing for millenia...

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Internationalist Bastard
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:42 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.


until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment

Yeah but uh, anyway point is it doesn’t matter to anyone
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:43 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Mardla wrote:
until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment

Yeah but uh, anyway point is it doesn’t matter to anyone


It clearly does though, otherwise people wouldn't object.

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Page
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Postby Page » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:44 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.


until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment


If a polygamous marriage is composed of consenting adults, no harm is done.

I'm against the sort of polygamy in which religious fanatics "marry" (rape) 14 year old girls and treat their "wives" like chattel, but equal polyamorous relationships do exist and I don't see any reason such groups of people shouldn't have the same rights as a couple.
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Mardla
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Postby Mardla » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:45 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Mardla wrote:
until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment


You act as if polygamy is this new dangfangled thing "deh degenerate youngins" are all gossiping about when it has been a thing for millenia...


So has pederasty, but the promotion of Desmond is Amazing is part of a new mainstream movemeny. Same with polygamy
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Jebslund
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Postby Jebslund » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:45 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Yeah but uh, anyway point is it doesn’t matter to anyone


It clearly does though, otherwise people wouldn't object.

Not everyone who objects to something has a *valid* objection.
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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:47 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
You act as if polygamy is this new dangfangled thing "deh degenerate youngins" are all gossiping about when it has been a thing for millenia...


So has pederasty, but the promotion of Desmond is Amazing is part of a new mainstream movemeny. Same with polygamy


Desmond is a different bowl of soup, and I genuinely view it as disgusting and bordering on outright pedophilia.

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:49 am

Page wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't really care what configurations people have their relationships in, but these two wanting this badly to be as identical as possible seems weird as fuck. What's going to happen when their poor children aren't identical? What if one has a boy and the other has a girl?


Lots of parents have this problem though, expecting that their child will be exactly how they want the child to be, that the kid will share the same interests as the parents, the same values, the same beliefs, the same politics. They think their kid will never want to wear clothes or style their hair in a way that the parents hate, and some actually forget that one day their child will grow up into an independent adult.

IMO everyone who wants to have kids should first ask themselves if they will be okay if their child is completely different than what they're expecting, and only those who can accept that should have children.

Somehow I suspect that the people dropping big money on becoming as identical as possible and insisting on having the same boyfriend and wanting to get pregnant at the same time would be somewhat different in their expectations for their children than most parents.


Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.


until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment

The 14th Amendment to...Australia's constitution? What's that about?
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Internationalist Bastard
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:50 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
You act as if polygamy is this new dangfangled thing "deh degenerate youngins" are all gossiping about when it has been a thing for millenia...


So has pederasty, but the promotion of Desmond is Amazing is part of a new mainstream movemeny. Same with polygamy

Nice job ignoring all the emphasis on consent and compare a relationship between consenting adults to child rape
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:51 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
If it is between consenting adults and no physical harm is done, literally nobody cares about what IB does behind bedroom doors.


until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment


My suggestion is to abolish marriage on the government level :) No more tax benefits, etc. just for being married.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:51 am

Ifreann wrote:
Page wrote:
Lots of parents have this problem though, expecting that their child will be exactly how they want the child to be, that the kid will share the same interests as the parents, the same values, the same beliefs, the same politics. They think their kid will never want to wear clothes or style their hair in a way that the parents hate, and some actually forget that one day their child will grow up into an independent adult.

IMO everyone who wants to have kids should first ask themselves if they will be okay if their child is completely different than what they're expecting, and only those who can accept that should have children.

Somehow I suspect that the people dropping big money on becoming as identical as possible and insisting on having the same boyfriend and wanting to get pregnant at the same time would be somewhat different in their expectations for their children than most parents.


Mardla wrote:
until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment

The 14th Amendment to...Australia's constitution? What's that about?

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Mardla
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Postby Mardla » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:53 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Mardla wrote:
So has pederasty, but the promotion of Desmond is Amazing is part of a new mainstream movemeny. Same with polygamy


Desmond is a different bowl of soup, and I genuinely view it as disgusting and bordering on outright pedophilia.

Pederasty will be normal to the next generation, you will considered bigoted for trying to "protect" kids from being gay. Desmond was featured on Good Morning America. No LGBT organization or publication has a problem here, they all support it
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:53 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Mardla wrote:
until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment


My suggestion is to abolish marriage on the government level :) No more tax benefits, etc. just for being married.


No, make homosexuality and polyamory mandatory for all of those aged 18 and up.

Truly a revolutionary solution!

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Postby Page » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:54 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Desmond is a different bowl of soup, and I genuinely view it as disgusting and bordering on outright pedophilia.

Pederasty will be normal to the next generation, you will considered bigoted for trying to "protect" kids from being gay.


One of these two things is true.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:55 am

Mardla wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Desmond is a different bowl of soup, and I genuinely view it as disgusting and bordering on outright pedophilia.

Pederasty will be normal to the next generation, you will considered bigoted for trying to "protect" kids from being gay. Desmond was featured on Good Morning America. No LGBT organization or publication has a problem here, they all support it

Except we all have problems with it you just don’t listen to us
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Mardla
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Postby Mardla » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
Page wrote:
Lots of parents have this problem though, expecting that their child will be exactly how they want the child to be, that the kid will share the same interests as the parents, the same values, the same beliefs, the same politics. They think their kid will never want to wear clothes or style their hair in a way that the parents hate, and some actually forget that one day their child will grow up into an independent adult.

IMO everyone who wants to have kids should first ask themselves if they will be okay if their child is completely different than what they're expecting, and only those who can accept that should have children.

Somehow I suspect that the people dropping big money on becoming as identical as possible and insisting on having the same boyfriend and wanting to get pregnant at the same time would be somewhat different in their expectations for their children than most parents.


Mardla wrote:
until polygamy starts demanding state recognition and a judge rules any state without it violates the 14th Amendment

The 14th Amendment to...Australia's constitution? What's that about?

IB is Australian? When WVC mentioned IB I imagined he meant the poster.
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