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by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:26 pm
by Borovan3 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:28 pm
by New Avalon » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:28 pm
Counterfeit trouser shortage wrote:venezuela isn't socialist
by Gig em Aggies » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:28 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Socialists try create Socialist state; Socialist state fails; Socialists claim it wasn't Socialist; repeat.
Like a broken record, it repeats again and again. Just turn the damn thing off already and be done with it.
by The New California Republic » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:30 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Socialists try create Socialist state; Socialist state fails; Socialists claim it wasn't Socialist; repeat.
Like a broken record, it repeats again and again. Just turn the damn thing off already and be done with it.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:30 pm
Gig em Aggies wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Socialists try create Socialist state; Socialist state fails; Socialists claim it wasn't Socialist; repeat.
Like a broken record, it repeats again and again. Just turn the damn thing off already and be done with it.
It kind of sounds like that what the socialist in the US Congress want for Americans.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:31 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Socialists try create Socialist state; Socialist state fails; Socialists claim it wasn't Socialist; repeat.
Like a broken record, it repeats again and again. Just turn the damn thing off already and be done with it.
I mean, it was heading in that general direction, until chronic economic mismanagement led to it completely careening off the rails.
by New haven america » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:33 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Socialists try create Socialist state; Socialist state fails; Socialists claim it wasn't Socialist; repeat.
Like a broken record, it repeats again and again. Just turn the damn thing off already and be done with it.
by The New California Republic » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:36 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:The New California Republic wrote:I mean, it was heading in that general direction, until chronic economic mismanagement led to it completely careening off the rails.
Chronic economic mismanagement is a staple of Socialism and cannot be avoided. That's why it always fails in the first place.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:37 pm
New haven america wrote:Yes, we get it, capitalism is the only true economic system.
Let's just forget the fact that A. That shitty meme is about Communism, not Socialism, B. True Communism has never actually been achieved (That would be a: Stateless, Classless society where workers control the means of production),
and C. You're actually living in a Socialist society, Socialism tends to be ahead of the trend and evolves over time, with it's original purpose being to give people universal suffrage, union/worker rights, etc... so if you live in any of the developed nations, then congrats, you live in a Socialist society!
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:38 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Chronic economic mismanagement is a staple of Socialism and cannot be avoided. That's why it always fails in the first place.
Mixed-economy socialism with the presence of small and medium private businesses is probably the only way it could feasibly work, as the rot tends to start creeping in from a lack of them, or at least it did in East Germany.
by Costa Fierro » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:38 pm
I know that He improved the lifestyle of the Venezuelan people, he spent a lot on social policies which really helped to the Venezuelan people, but after his death, the Venezuelan economical crisis start to took place, meaning that something was wrong with his system.
by Erythrean Thebes » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:41 pm
by New haven america » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:42 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:New haven america wrote:Yes, we get it, capitalism is the only true economic system.
1. Not the only one that's true; but the only one proven to work. That makes it's shortcomings unfortunately acceptable.Let's just forget the fact that A. That shitty meme is about Communism, not Socialism, B. True Communism has never actually been achieved (That would be a: Stateless, Classless society where workers control the means of production),
2.I know the difference between Communism and Socialism, thank you.and C. You're actually living in a Socialist society, Socialism tends to be ahead of the trend and evolves over time, with it's original purpose being to give people universal suffrage, union/worker rights, etc... so if you live in any of the developed nations, then congrats, you live in a Socialist society!
3.Thanks for the laugh.
by Costa Fierro » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:45 pm
Erythrean Thebes wrote:Socialism is a bad idea if the nation is not already very wealthy. Venezuela was not wealthy; what would be the point of collectivizing and pursuing autarchy when you have so little?
by The New California Republic » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:47 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Mixed-economy socialism with the presence of small and medium private businesses is probably the only way it could feasibly work, as the rot tends to start creeping in from a lack of them, or at least it did in East Germany.
But then it wouldn't be Socialism.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:47 pm
New haven america wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
1. Not the only one that's true; but the only one proven to work. That makes it's shortcomings unfortunately acceptable.
2.I know the difference between Communism and Socialism, thank you.
3.Thanks for the laugh.
1. No, several have been proven to work, most of them being mixed systems between Capitalism and Socialism.
2. Obviously you don't or else you wouldn't have posted that shitty meme to begin with. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
3. As someone who actually understand economic systems and their history, watching you act as if you know the history of those history of those systems is funny. Keep it up, I need some afternoon entertainment.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:48 pm
by Smugolia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:49 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:50 pm
New haven america wrote:and C. You're actually living in a Socialist society, Socialism tends to be ahead of the trend and evolves over time with it's original purpose being to give people universal suffrage, union/worker rights, etc... so if you live in any of the developed nations, then congrats, you live in a Socialist society!
by LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:52 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Socialists try create Socialist state; Socialist state fails; Socialists claim it wasn't Socialist; repeat.
Like a broken record, it repeats again and again. Just turn the damn thing off already and be done with it.
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