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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:33 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
I'll never understand this trend of people thinking evil is cool.


National Socialism is NOT evil, it is the political process of life itself. National Socialism is more than just "cool", it is our natural instinct. If you want to know what evil is, just look at Communism and it's 332 million victims.


Communism is stupid; Nazism is evil. How convenient you talk of 332 million victims while ignoring 17 million other victims.
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Postby Albydia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:34 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
I'll never understand this trend of people thinking evil is cool.


National Socialism is NOT evil, it is the political process of life itself. National Socialism is more than just "cool", it is our natural instinct. If you want to know what evil is, just look at Communism and it's 332 million victims.

The Nazis and their distinctive mixture of evil and stupidity is what destroyed far-right politics forever. We'd be better off if Hitler and the DAP was executed after the Beer Hall Putsch and the DNVP took over instead. Maybe the colonial empires would still exist. That is something you, as a white nationalist, would like, right?
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Postby Kustonia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:34 pm

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Kustonia wrote:Yes to National Socialism! Sieg Heil!

How about we say no to genocide instead?


Yes, no to white genocide!
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Postby Kustonia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:36 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
National Socialism is NOT evil, it is the political process of life itself. National Socialism is more than just "cool", it is our natural instinct. If you want to know what evil is, just look at Communism and it's 332 million victims.


Communism is stupid; Nazism is evil. How convenient you talk of 332 million victims while ignoring 17 million other victims.


And where exactly did you get that figure?
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Postby Albydia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:37 pm

Kustonia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:How about we say no to genocide instead?


Yes, no to white genocide!

Yes, and no to other genocides against other peoples. Such as the Uyghurs, or the Tutsi. Or the ones against the Jews and Slavs that your hero committed.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:39 pm

Kustonia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:How about we say no to genocide instead?


Yes, no to white genocide!


Zimbabwe is but one country, my friend.

Kustonia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Communism is stupid; Nazism is evil. How convenient you talk of 332 million victims while ignoring 17 million other victims.


And where exactly did you get that figure?


You're joking, right?
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Postby Albydia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:40 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Albydia wrote:Yes, and other genocides against other peoples. Such as the Uyghurs, or the Tutsi.

Don't forget the French!


A lot of people want to genocide the French. :p

If Kustonia wants an actual example of actual white genocide, he should take a trip to South Africa or Zimbabwe.
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Postby Kustonia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:40 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
National Socialism is NOT evil, it is the political process of life itself. National Socialism is more than just "cool", it is our natural instinct. If you want to know what evil is, just look at Communism and it's 332 million victims.

Naziism would have destroyed much more via intent alone. Genocide is evil.
Look it up.

You can't claim "fake" for everything and use sketchy arguments to try to debunk it, or sketchy sources with poor research and inconsistencies.

As a person who according to my mother has a Jewish father, I likely had ancestors slaughtered. The fact you deny or justify that is horrific.


I do not condone genocide, in fact, I oppose it. The Jews that were killed during WWII were prisoners of war and not victims of genocide.
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Postby Chan Island » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:43 pm

National Socialism is one of the most broken, nostalgic, inherently genocidal and thus frankly evil ideologies to have ever been invented by humans. Fuck national socialism.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:43 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Naziism would have destroyed much more via intent alone. Genocide is evil.
Look it up.

You can't claim "fake" for everything and use sketchy arguments to try to debunk it, or sketchy sources with poor research and inconsistencies.

As a person who according to my mother has a Jewish father, I likely had ancestors slaughtered. The fact you deny or justify that is horrific.


I do not condone genocide, in fact, I oppose it. The Jews that were killed during WWII were prisoners of war and not victims of genocide.


How the fuck are infant children "prisoners of war"? Please tell me you're not actually fucking serious right now.

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Zimbabwe is but one country, my friend.



You're joking, right?



Don't.

The best thing to do is to dismiss and not feed childish behavior, instead laughing at it for what it is.


What makes you think I'm not laughing?
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Postby Kustonia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:45 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Zimbabwe is but one country, my friend.



You're joking, right?



Don't.

The best thing to do is to dismiss and not feed childish behavior, instead laughing at it for what it is.


You dismiss actual science, and oppose all research into the "Holocaust." Got it.
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Postby Albydia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:49 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Naziism would have destroyed much more via intent alone. Genocide is evil.
Look it up.

You can't claim "fake" for everything and use sketchy arguments to try to debunk it, or sketchy sources with poor research and inconsistencies.

As a person who according to my mother has a Jewish father, I likely had ancestors slaughtered. The fact you deny or justify that is horrific.


I do not condone genocide, in fact, I oppose it. The Jews that were killed during WWII were prisoners of war and not victims of genocide.

Gee, I didn't know the evil (((Allies))) were abducting toddlers and seniors from Germany and sending them into the battlefield while simultaneously never leaving Germany. WTF, I love Hitler now.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:51 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
You dismiss actual science, and oppose all research into the "Holocaust." Got it.


>Actual Science
That "science" has been debunked. We already researched it.

Also, how tf are babies and children prisoners of war?

Your arguments are laughable. Cringy as all hell.


Something something, "Jews are evil", or some such nonsense I'm sure.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:12 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Something something, "Jews are evil", or some such nonsense I'm sure.


Adolf Hitler had apparently carved out many exceptions to his regime's antisemitism beyond just his mother's personal physician. Jews that Hitler happened to like, were spared from the Holocaust. I'd think that with most antisemites that either all Jews are bad and there should be no exceptions or if some Jews aren't bad that it doesn't follow that all Jews are bad and consequently, Jews in general shouldn't be persecuted.

Am I wrong in thinking that if it was made public to the party beyond just a tightly controlled Nazi leadership of "higher ups" that this would've undermined Hitler's position in relation to the NSDAP and its ideology?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/wor ... ficer.html
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Postby Chan Island » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:22 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Something something, "Jews are evil", or some such nonsense I'm sure.


Adolf Hitler had apparently carved out many exceptions to his regime's antisemitism beyond just his mother's personal physician. Jews that Hitler happened to like, were spared from the Holocaust. I'd think that with most antisemites that either all Jews are bad and there should be no exceptions or if some Jews aren't bad that it doesn't follow that all Jews are bad and consequently, Jews in general shouldn't be persecuted.

Am I wrong in thinking that if it was made public to the party beyond just a tightly controlled Nazi leadership of "higher ups" that this would've undermined Hitler's position in relation to the NSDAP and its ideology?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/wor ... ficer.html


Not really. The concentration camps made extensive use of jewish prisoners to do various tasks in exchange for not immediately being killed too.
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Postby Cedoria » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:24 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Albydia wrote:What about fascism? From 1922 to 1935, Fascist Italy was praised by the rest of the world for its efficiency and devotion to domestic order and, until 1935, foreign order. But then again, can you blame Italy for partaking in the same African Imperialism that her peers had been participating in since the 1880's, and some since the 1400's?


Italian fascism's fatal mistake was associating with the Nazis.

No, it's fatal mistake was existing.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:25 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Italian fascism's fatal mistake was associating with the Nazis.

No, it's fatal mistake was existing.


The vast majority of Italian fascism's stupidities did not begin until their association (and eventual subordination) with the Nazis.

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Postby Valrifell » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:27 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Cedoria wrote:No, it's fatal mistake was existing.


The vast majority of Italian fascism's stupidities did not begin until their association (and eventual subordination) with the Nazis.


What makes it hilarious is that Il Duce was blind to the fact he was Hitler's subordinate, in fact he thought their relationship was the opposite and viewed Hitler as his protégé.
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Postby Albydia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:28 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Cedoria wrote:No, it's fatal mistake was existing.


The vast majority of Italian fascism's stupidities did not begin until their association (and eventual subordination) with the Nazis.

Right. Also, it's funny how the self-proclaimed "White Nationalist" has nothing to say about the fact that Colonial Empires and segregation would still exist if it weren't for Hitler's stupidity.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:29 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The vast majority of Italian fascism's stupidities did not begin until their association (and eventual subordination) with the Nazis.


What makes it hilarious is that Il Duce was blind to the fact he was Hitler's subordinate, in fact he thought their relationship was the opposite and viewed Hitler as his protégé.


Hitler did initially view Mussolini as a role model, but by 1941, the Italians were effectively Nazi Germany's leashed pet.

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:37 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Cedoria wrote:No, it's fatal mistake was existing.


The vast majority of Italian fascism's stupidities did not begin until their association (and eventual subordination) with the Nazis.

Not really. You have to remember that the whole movement was built upon revanchism for perceived slights suffered after WW1 when the allies refused to hand Italy large chunks of formerly Austrian land. And that as such it was inevitably aimed at building Italy up as a major colonial power as well as expanding to take those lands by force eventually. So whilst it is doubtful that Italy would have gone to war with the allies willingly without a friendly Germany to back them up it is likely that their expansionist policy would at some point lead to that anyway. And they couldn't really not expand because that's what the whole premise was built upon. Giving up on the dream of a new roman empire would have effectively delegitimazed the whole government.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:39 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Cedoria wrote:No, it's fatal mistake was existing.


The vast majority of Italian fascism's stupidities did not begin until their association (and eventual subordination) with the Nazis.


Pretty much.

Mussolini should have broken his pact with Hitler the moment Hitler broke his promise to wait for Italy to be ready to mobilize before starting a war in Europe. That was the first in a long line of red flags that Hitler could not be trusted, and that he would lead the Axis in Europe to ruin.
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Postby Albydia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:47 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The vast majority of Italian fascism's stupidities did not begin until their association (and eventual subordination) with the Nazis.


Pretty much.

Mussolini should have broken his pact with Hitler the moment Hitler broke his promise to wait for Italy to be ready to mobilize before starting a war in Europe. That was the first in a long line of red flags that Hitler could not be trusted, and that he would lead the Axis in Europe to ruin.

Hitler breaking his agreement with Czechoslovakia should have been a sign to Italy.
Hitler breaking his agreement with Italy should have been a sign to the Soviets.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:51 pm

Albydia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Pretty much.

Mussolini should have broken his pact with Hitler the moment Hitler broke his promise to wait for Italy to be ready to mobilize before starting a war in Europe. That was the first in a long line of red flags that Hitler could not be trusted, and that he would lead the Axis in Europe to ruin.

Hitler breaking his agreement with Czechoslovakia should have been a sign to Italy.
Hitler breaking his agreement with Italy should have been a sign to the Soviets.


The Soviets desperately needed time to get their forces in fighting order and for Stalin to secure his hold on power, if anything people were betting Hitler would've attacked sooner.
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Postby New Anderia » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:53 pm

The party was going somewhere until Hitler took over and forced out the Blackshirts and other progress oriented members in the Night of Long Knives, a shame what the madman did to the party, the movement, and of course the jews and other so-called subversives.

The delirium of racialism and capitalist cronyism have and will leave a black stain on anything touched by the now mainstream reactionary trend of fascism.
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