100 Years of National Socialism

[Albydia]

Best thing the Communists ever did was string their ilk by meat hooks.


National Socialism was a vile cancer that was thankfully cut out root from stem. So it should be. Even it's supposed accomplishments were lies, mostly by cheating on unemployment figures (Jews can't be unemployed cause they aren't people right?) and a war economy that would have collapsed in 1940 or thereabouts unless they unleashed it.

It is a uniquely worthless pseudo-philosophy, and an indelible stain that will never wash out of its adherents and practitioners. If OP and their like hope for a revival, they'll go the same way.

What about fascism? From 1922 to 1935, Fascist Italy was praised by the rest of the world for its efficiency and devotion to domestic order and, until 1935, foreign order. But then again, can you blame Italy for partaking in the same African Imperialism that her peers had been participating in since the 1880's, and some since the 1400's?

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Best thing the Communists ever did was string their ilk by meat hooks.


National Socialism was a vile cancer that was thankfully cut out root from stem. So it should be. Even it's supposed accomplishments were lies, mostly by cheating on unemployment figures (Jews can't be unemployed cause they aren't people right?) and a war economy that would have collapsed in 1940 or thereabouts unless they unleashed it.

It is a uniquely worthless pseudo-philosophy, and an indelible stain that will never wash out of its adherents and practitioners. If OP and their like hope for a revival, they'll go the same way.

What about fascism? From 1922 to 1935, Fascist Italy was praised by the rest of the world for its efficiency and devotion to domestic order and, until 1935, foreign order. But then again, can you blame Italy for partaking in the same African Imperialism that her peers had been participating in since the 1880's, and some since the 1400's?

Italian fascism's fatal mistake was associating with the Nazis.

[Settrah]

National Socialism is unsalvagable. It is and will always be a grotesque ideology based on genocide; it doesn't deserve another try, just like communism doesn't deserve another try.

This.

I mean yes Germany was in a worse state before, and it managed to drag it out of the mud and build something quite remarkable and memorable in the grand scheme in terms of what it achieved. But that doesn't mean it should be glorified as a thing to be considered at all. It was a deceptive way to turn a nation into a single minded hive mind, and trick them into war.

Fascinating to research the economics though.

[The New California Republic]

The only good thing national socialists ever did was die.

Best thing the Communists ever did was string their ilk by meat hooks.

Jeez Louise...

[Geneviev]

100 years of Satanism, eh?

National Socialism was bad, but not Satanism. It's worse than anything else people have done.

[Geneviev]

National Socialism was bad, but not Satanism. It's worse than anything else people have done.

It's Satanic in views I feel and morals. Goes against Christianity and basic civilized society. It's barbaric. Uncivilized. Treasonous. Blasphemy.


It may not literally worship Satan, but to me, I see a Nazi the same way I see a Satanist(And not the Laveyan Atheist kind.).

Satanism doesn't lie about being Christian. Nazis in Germany believed they were doing God's will. Nazism is much worse and they can't really be compared.

[Settrah]

I would envision a state ideology of Satanism realistically, probably become some kind of widely distributed set of council level communities that like hedonism and free trade but hate bureaucracy.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Nazism is a cancerous and genocidal ideology and an ugly blight on the history of human civilization, I’m glad they got positively rekt during World War II.

[Washington Resistance Army]

National socialism dragged literally every other far-right ideology into the cesspit of being forever associated with them.

Thanks for ruining it all!

This^

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

This.

I mean yes Germany was in a worse state before, and it managed to drag it out of the mud and build something quite remarkable and memorable in the grand scheme in terms of what it achieved. but that doesn't mean it should be glorified as a thing to be considered at all. It was a deceptive way to turn a nation into a single minded hive mind, and trick them into war.

This is why I personally think the Antichrist will be a hardcore Nationalist who manipulates the other nations speaking of peace.

I see National Socialism and related-even non "socialist" or "fascist"-ideologies as the Devil's work, both figuratively and literally, but if you want to interpret it figuratively go ahead.

National Socialism is the most vile, hate-filled, spiteful, vitriolic, bile, pathetic ideology ever created.


Communism by contrast is just retarded, caused by a mixture of oversimplification, underanalysis, and overthinking, all rolled into one.


Naziism is the sin of hate and cruelty.
Communism is the sin of naivety and violent recklessness.

I disagree. If we're going to use sins here, capitalism is the sin of greed and gluttony, maybe even sloth at this point. Capitalism's probably every single of the seven deadly sins combined. If we're gonna be using sins here, we need to put it on the record:

Lust: Definitely. Capitalism's extremely liberal when it comes to this. Not that this sin is particularly bad.
Gluttony: Yes, for obvious reasons.
Greed: Definitely obvious.
Sloth: If this isn't obvious to you, you should start relaxing.
Wrath: Wrath involves not merely anger, but also the attack of others out of pure rage and hatred. Capitalism has no concern for human life, so this one might be the farthest off, but it's still obvious.
Envy: Also obvious. It's the 4th most obvious probably, but still obvious.
Pride: Turn on the celebrity news.

[Geneviev]

Satanism doesn't lie about being Christian. Nazis in Germany believed they were doing God's will. Nazism is much worse and they can't really be compared.

I did not say it did. Instead, I say it is the moral equivalent of Satan's views on humanity.

Satanism and Naziism are equally atrocious and to me, one is simply the secular version of another.

I think Nazism is directly from Satan, which would make it worse than anything else. But as long as we agree that it's wrong that's all that actually matters.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Satanism doesn't lie about being Christian. Nazis in Germany believed they were doing God's will. Nazism is much worse and they can't really be compared.

I did not say it did. Instead, I say it is the moral equivalent of Satan's views on humanity.

Satanism and Naziism are equally atrocious and to me, one is simply the secular version of another.

Satan killed 7 people (Out of God's order mind you).
God killed millions just because they were living in Egypt and happened to be caught in the crossfire.

One threatens you, coerces you, into following one belief and one religion, to restrict yourself of freedom. The other just tells you to enjoy your life, have some fun.

[Settrah]

Dictatorships want to play God. If anything, they're the religious ones. Satanism is about rejecting God. Nazi Germany was not Satan.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I disagree. If we're going to use sins here, capitalism is the sin of greed and gluttony, maybe even sloth at this point. Capitalism's probably every single of the seven deadly sins combined. If we're gonna be using sins here, we need to put it on the record:

Lust: Definitely. Capitalism's extremely liberal when it comes to this. Not that this sin is particularly bad.
Gluttony: Yes, for obvious reasons.
Greed: Definitely obvious.
Sloth: If this isn't obvious to you, you should start relaxing.
Wrath: Wrath involves not merely anger, but also the attack of others out of pure rage and hatred. Capitalism has no concern for human life, so this one might be the farthest off, but it's still obvious.
Envy: Also obvious. It's the 4th most obvious probably, but still obvious.
Pride: Turn on the celebrity news.

I won't deny that Capitalism has sins, and maybe has all 7 of those sins-I admit I didn't think of that-but I also admit I wasn't using the 7 sins, and more things I see as sins in that context. Still, interesting post, and I liked reading it. I will have to ponder before I however reach a conclusion, myself being a Eco-Rhine Capitalist.

Even other sins too. It almost worships money and material good as the final good, allows theft when a man cannot defend his property, will murder without cause merely for profit, and believes that people must work whenever they can, possibility also violating the 5th commandment.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Even other sins too. It almost worships money and material good as the final good, allows theft when a man cannot defend his property, will murder without cause merely for profit, and believes that people must work whenever they can, possibility also violating the 5th commandment.

While the applicability of the 10 commandments these days are...questionable, and heavily debated, as well as a source of serious division in the church with both claiming the others heretical for choosing one of the two sides or even taking a middle ground, you've given me a lot to think about and consider. Thank you.

You're welcome. Most people, when this contradiction is pointed out, spasm into complete confusion and just try to kill the foundation of my point. Thank you for your civility and open-mindedness.

[Rezmaeristan]

I wish Strasser had become Fuhrer. Imagine Fascism and Communism allied against globalist capitalism!

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I wish Strasser had become Fuhrer. Imagine Fascism and Communism allied against globalist capitalism!

It'd be horrifying. Strasser was better, but I'm no fan of either Stalinism or Strasserism, although some anti-dictator resistance forces would be in order.

[Saiwania]

Even other sins too. It almost worships money and material good as the final good, allows theft when a man cannot defend his property, will murder without cause merely for profit, and believes that people must work whenever they can, possibility also violating the 5th commandment.

Even if Capitalism has moral or ethical failings, most countries seem to use it for their economic systems to some degree, because it is simply what works in terms of producing national wealth or prosperity and is within human nature. A rich country with surplus money or material resources can provide services for their citizens better than a country that doesn't have a good economy.

If it were so simple to just do away with capitalism, many people would do it. But it isn't so simple to find a superior economic system. It at least rewards individual success and punishes individual failure, assuming the free market has enough competition and enough monopolies are prevented.

[Albydia]

What about fascism? From 1922 to 1935, Fascist Italy was praised by the rest of the world for its efficiency and devotion to domestic order and, until 1935, foreign order. But then again, can you blame Italy for partaking in the same African Imperialism that her peers had been participating in since the 1880's, and some since the 1400's?

Italian fascism's fatal mistake was associating with the Nazis.

Yeah, Italy should have stood with France in protecting Austria and Czechoslovakia.

[Washington Resistance Army]

This^

It's good they got ruined.

They're all just as atrocious and evil, some just mask it.

It was a great moral victory for humanity, the West, and Abrahamic Religions, as well as Secularism, and a Pyrrhic victory for the Soviets. Win-Win-Win-Mega Win.

I could care less about most of these things tbh

[Dogmeat]

Little did they know that, because of them, Germany would lose all of it's eastern territory, suffer millions of dead, the ruin of its cities, and the division of its nation.

But hey, at least they killed millions of innocent people while they were at it.

[Internationalist Bastard]

The only good thing national socialists ever did was die.

Now now they also discredited themselves forever

[Washington Resistance Army]

The only good thing national socialists ever did was die.

Now now they also discredited themselves forever

I wouldn't say forever given how much they've rebounded since the Cold War ended.

[Deutschess Kaiserreich]

I miss Prussia. It’s borders were so sexy. Now instead we have the border gore that is Eastern Europe

[Albydia]

Now now they also discredited themselves forever

I wouldn't say forever given how much they've rebounded since the Cold War ended.

Sorry, but a few 4chan losers waving around tiki torches in some random town isn't "rebounding".