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Postby ShakaZuli » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:02 am

Bolsonaro has its good and bad sides so it is still early to make good judgement about him. On one hand he seems to be on the right track but the same time shows neocon features. The good sides is preventing sexed in schools, fighting corruption and violence, saying the truth about the Brazilian millitary rule which was one of Brazils golden age; the neoconish sides is his pro-market stance and his devoutness to USA as opposed to Russia or China.

Even despite his bad sides Bolsonaro is the first right-wing experiment since the 80s and before him there was no alternative to the left establishment. A Brazilian nationalist and pro-souveregnity right needs more time to develop.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:05 am

ShakaZuli wrote:Bolsonaro has its good and bad sites so it is still early to make good judgement about him. On one hand he seems to be on the right track but the same time shows neocon features. The good sides is preventing sexed in schools, fighting corruption and violence, saying the truth about the Brazilian millitary rule which was one of Brazils golden age; the neoconish sides is his pro-market stance and his devoutness to USA as opposed to Russia or China.

Even despite his bad sides Bolsonaro is the first right-wing experiment since the 80s and before him there was no alternative to the left establishment. A Brazilian nationalist and pro-souveregnity right needs more time to develop.


So why is it important to get sex ed out of schools?
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Postby ShakaZuli » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:08 am

Vassenor wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:Bolsonaro has its good and bad sites so it is still early to make good judgement about him. On one hand he seems to be on the right track but the same time shows neocon features. The good sides is preventing sexed in schools, fighting corruption and violence, saying the truth about the Brazilian millitary rule which was one of Brazils golden age; the neoconish sides is his pro-market stance and his devoutness to USA as opposed to Russia or China.

Even despite his bad sides Bolsonaro is the first right-wing experiment since the 80s and before him there was no alternative to the left establishment. A Brazilian nationalist and pro-souveregnity right needs more time to develop.


So why is it important to get sex ed out of schools?

It is basically often a LGTB propaganda tool and you really learn nothing usefull there. Also, kids should be kids and let them have their childhood.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:12 am

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Vassenor wrote:
So why is it important to get sex ed out of schools?

It is basically often a LGTB propaganda tool and you really learn nothing usefull there. Also, kids should be kids and let them have their childhood.


So basically it triggers you knowing kids know how to avoid unplanned pregnancy and contracting STIs.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:14 am

ShakaZuli wrote:It is basically often a LGTB propaganda tool and you really learn nothing usefull there. Also, kids should be kids and let them have their childhood.

Ebil big gobberment propaganda. Also, I like how you spelled LGTB.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:17 am

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Vassenor wrote:
So why is it important to get sex ed out of schools?

It is basically often a LGTB propaganda tool and you really learn nothing usefull there. Also, kids should be kids and let them have their childhood.

Ironically, that sex ed is LGBT propaganda is just anti-LGBT propaganda.
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Postby ShakaZuli » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:25 am

Vassenor wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:It is basically often a LGTB propaganda tool and you really learn nothing usefull there. Also, kids should be kids and let them have their childhood.


So basically it triggers you knowing kids know how to avoid unplanned pregnancy and contracting STIs.

It doesn`t trigger me. Kids should not become pregnant and contracting STI in first place (a.k.a. having sex).
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:26 am

ShakaZuli wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So basically it triggers you knowing kids know how to avoid unplanned pregnancy and contracting STIs.

It doesn`t trigger me. Kids should not become pregnant and contracting STI in first place (a.k.a. having sex). They are to young for this.


Fun fact: Teaching abstinence doesn't actually accomplish that.
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Postby Duvniask » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:31 am

ShakaZuli wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So why is it important to get sex ed out of schools?

It is basically often a LGTB propaganda tool and you really learn nothing usefull there. Also, kids should be kids and let them have their childhood.

Lol, nothing useful learned, except, you know, learning how to have sex without getting pregnant and getting diseases - precisely the thing you want. Do you like shooting yourself in the foot?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:47 am

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ShakaZuli wrote:It is basically often a LGTB propaganda tool and you really learn nothing usefull there. Also, kids should be kids and let them have their childhood.

Lol, nothing useful learned, except, you know, learning how to have sex without getting pregnant and getting diseases - precisely the thing you want. Do you like shooting yourself in the foot?


The entire point of sexual education is to teach new adolescents on how to have safe sex, not how to NOT have sex.

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Postby ShakaZuli » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:51 am

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Duvniask wrote:Lol, nothing useful learned, except, you know, learning how to have sex without getting pregnant and getting diseases - precisely the thing you want. Do you like shooting yourself in the foot?


The entire point of sexual education is to teach new adolescents on how to have safe sex, not how to NOT have sex.

Maybe society should start sending new message to the youth. Don`t be promiscious and have sex with a person you only true love.

This the reason why there is the incel problem, single mothers and kids out of wedlock.

Again all of this off-topic and the thread is about Bolsonaro.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:52 am

ShakaZuli wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The entire point of sexual education is to teach new adolescents on how to have safe sex, not how to NOT have sex.

Maybe society should start sending new message to the youth. Don`t be promiscious and have sex with a person you only true love.

This the reason why there is the incel problem, single mothers and kids out of wedlock.

Again all of this off-topic and the thread is about Bolsonaro.


Not really considering it's to do with a thing you're praising him for.
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Postby Duvniask » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:54 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Lol, nothing useful learned, except, you know, learning how to have sex without getting pregnant and getting diseases - precisely the thing you want. Do you like shooting yourself in the foot?


The entire point of sexual education is to teach new adolescents on how to have safe sex, not how to NOT have sex.

Which is literally what I just said?
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Postby Mardla » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:01 am

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Mardla wrote:Economic wellbeing here signifies rate of consumption?

That, or productivity. Though yknow, people usually prefer to have $15k extra in hand instead of working five less hours a week.


That's income, pretty distinct from rate of production or even consumption.
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Postby Sitali » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:05 am

ShakaZuli wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So basically it triggers you knowing kids know how to avoid unplanned pregnancy and contracting STIs.

It doesn`t trigger me. Kids should not become pregnant and contracting STI in first place (a.k.a. having sex).

Yes, but how the hell are they going to know about not getting a STI by not learning it? Maybe the parents might teach it, but still, it may have a surge in STI’s.

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Postby Page » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:10 am

ShakaZuli wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So why is it important to get sex ed out of schools?

It is basically often a LGTB propaganda tool and you really learn nothing usefull there. Also, kids should be kids and let them have their childhood.


Indeed, that LGBT propaganda, the whole "hey if you're a guy and you're sexually attracted to other guys that's totally fine, and if you identify as another gender that's also totally fine." Can we even fathom the damage wrought by this relentless propaganda campaign of telling kids that it's alright to be who they are? THE HORROR.
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Postby Page » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:11 am

ShakaZuli wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So basically it triggers you knowing kids know how to avoid unplanned pregnancy and contracting STIs.

It doesn`t trigger me. Kids should not become pregnant and contracting STI in first place (a.k.a. having sex).


People shouldn't be driving recklessly in the first place either, but are you volunteering to not wear a seatbelt?
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Postby British Tackeettlaus » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:24 am

I wonder if he will actually tackle rampant corruption. I'm willing to judge him on his results but I am not hopeful at all. His attitude towards LGBT, aboriginal people and the environment really don't fill me with hope at all.

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Postby British Tackeettlaus » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:27 am

ShakaZuli wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The entire point of sexual education is to teach new adolescents on how to have safe sex, not how to NOT have sex.

Maybe society should start sending new message to the youth. Don`t be promiscious and have sex with a person you only true love.

This the reason why there is the incel problem, single mothers and kids out of wedlock.

Again all of this off-topic and the thread is about Bolsonaro.


Teenagers are going to have sex with eachother whether you like it or not. Abstinence only sex education has never worked, it just increases unwanted pregnancies and STDs.

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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:13 am

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Ah, yes, because when it's blatantly clear that the vast majority of the Amazon is being destroyed for agricultural reasons, that nothing says, "environmental protection!" quite like putting its protection under a ministry dedicated to furthering the goals of agricultural production.

That's indeed happening, and blame the previous decades of other governments which, despite having enjoyed 40 years of direct democracy, left 4.5 million sq. kilometers worth of rainforest to be protected with half a billion dollars. Besides, when two or more ministries fuse, all of their responsibilities are mashed onto one -- ergo this move wasn't a destructive one at all.
"but hnnng bolsonaro is destroying the amazon" you can do better than that


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Never mind the fucking fact that A) the previous Brazilian governments have been drastically slowing the environmental destruction of the Amazon and B) Bolsonaro himself has made it quite the fuck clear that he wants to put agricultural and business interests ahead of protecting the environment.

But yeah nah let's just act like Bolsonaro's a Goody McTwo Shoes who's also a hero of the """Libertarian""" movement.
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I didn't realize that Bolsonaro had global jurisdiction...


The Anglo is willing to bow to even the Brazilian if they bring promises of furthering their destructive agenda. *nod*
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Postby Peoples Cities » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:41 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ng-logging

“It’s a shame that the Brazilian cavalry wasn’t as efficient as the Americans, who exterminated their Indians,” he once said.

His victory is a terrible thing for the indigenous people, his racist horrible views as well as his anti-lgbt stance make it seem like bad news for Brazilian's that arn't ignorant right wingers. The environment will probably also suffer as he seems he wants to encourage further environmental exploitation at the expense of the Amazon which is a damn shame for the rest of the world because that rain forest is incredibly important for the globes ecosystem in refreshing the air and absorbing carbon dioxide.... so you know, we don't all die from environmental ruination before the century is out.

There are over 100 uncontacted tribes in the Amazon, living on protected tribal reserves, and he has said he wants to get rid of the preservations which could destroy those tribal communities, their immune systems are also not use to the type of disease they may be exposed to and could lead to genocide and total wiping out of these communities

https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/12060

How could anyone in good conscious support this rascist who is so hostile to the indigenous peoples of Brazil

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Postby Knockturn Alley » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:26 am

British Tackeettlaus wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:Maybe society should start sending new message to the youth. Don`t be promiscious and have sex with a person you only true love.

This the reason why there is the incel problem, single mothers and kids out of wedlock.

Again all of this off-topic and the thread is about Bolsonaro.


Teenagers are going to have sex with eachother whether you like it or not. Abstinence only sex education has never worked, it just increases unwanted pregnancies and STDs.

I dont think anyone is forcing teenagers not to. It is about instilling values which leads to a better quality of life. If they choose not to follow that, so be it
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