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Postby British Tackeettlaus » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:32 am

Two black people were shot at random and injured by a white man in a pickup on the exact same stretch of highway in 2017, and the shooter was never caught.

https://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Harris-County-Sheriff-to-visit-man-who-says-his-12395019.php

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Postby Xmara » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:33 am

I’ll just say that I am pro death penalty in extreme cases and leave it at that. Hope they catch the man and give him the sentence he deserves.

Also, I seriously can’t believe it’s Sai of all people posting this. Could this be a good sign?
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:44 am

...honestly, I hope that the perpetrator does not get a slap on the wrist for this horrible crime: life in prison without parole would be the most appropriate, though I would not be opposed to him being executed.

As well, I feel that Saiwania actually proposed a sensible solution when he suggested stricter gun control at a minimum: while I am incredibly skeptical that this would ever happen in the United States, bar a new constitution, I do believe that this would be a good idea to reduce the prevalence of such incidents.

As a footnote, when even Saiwania considers this crime to be a hate crime because of the fact that they're a minority, this crime is way beyond the pale.
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Postby Western-Ukraine » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:01 am

As sad as it is, it's just another murder case. One of the many in the US. I don't see the need to paint this as a hate crime so quickly. However, let us hope for swift punishment to the culprit.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:08 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I press all the X's to doubt about you being actually upset about this considering you were basically gloating about a migrant child dying at the fucking border the other week.

Well to be fair, that child was part of a criminal attempt to illegally invade his country. I say that disqualifies it from any sympathy and makes it position incomparable to that of a random innocent citizen of his nation gunned down on the street for no good reason.
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Postby Mardla » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:38 am

My prayers for the family. To take away someone's sibling and someone's child so suddenly, to unexpectedly, so unjustly, is the most horrific agony which it is possible to inflict.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:42 am

Honestly, let's chill. I know Sai doesn't have the best track record, but everybody deserves a chance. This death was tragic. There was no need to happen. They caught the truck on video, I hope they arrest the man.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:35 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:I press all the X's to doubt about you being actually upset about this considering you were basically gloating about a migrant child dying at the fucking border the other week.

Well to be fair, that child was part of a criminal attempt to illegally invade his country. I say that disqualifies it from any sympathy and makes it position incomparable to that of a random innocent citizen of his nation gunned down on the street for no good reason.

Do you know what "invade" means?
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:45 am

Par Chic wrote:I'm just surprised that Sai isnt cheering the shooter on. He hates black people.


I don't want the national or the world population to be majority Black. I'd say that this is a major difference. But people just don't appreciate the finer details and are more content to simplify my views as following the expected stereotypes.

I've never had a problem with race realism or identity but even I think it unproductive to be too much of a fanatic in such matters. You can self segregate yourself to some extent, but its impossible to do this 100% in today's world; so there is nothing inherently wrong in living the majority White lifestyle but still coming out against dreadful incidents like this. You do need to coexist with other races in a country like the US practically speaking.

I'm not in favor of giving Blacks or any group affirmative action, but do respect their right to exist. This obviously doesn't extend to being in favor of non-White immigration if the people in question are from undeveloped countries.
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:51 am

Of course it only makes the national news when its a suspected hate crime.

I used to live in one of Houston's worst neighborhoods. Shootings happened there all the time. Nobody cared. They received bylines in the crime blotter if they got any news coverage at all. Police presence was nil and their response times were painfully slow. Most people in the rich suburbs and glitzy neighborhoods like Bel Aire were totally oblivious to it.

I absolutely despise the fact that it took a 10 yo girl being shot by a suspected white supremacist to bring any kind of attention to these areas. And I hope that now that the spotlight is on Houston hopefully the cops will also come under scrutiny for their ridiculously inadequate policing of, and disconnect from, the seriously decayed areas like Sunnyside and Jenson.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:17 pm

This is horrible, no child should be killed like that.

And Sai, I actually agree with you on something. This feels wrong but it's a good sign.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:20 pm

Killing a child is the worst thing anyone could do.

Hope the killer is caught and given life.

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Postby Andsed » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:42 pm

The shooter is a monster and i hope he is caught and punished for this disgusting act.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:44 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Well to be fair, that child was part of a criminal attempt to illegally invade his country. I say that disqualifies it from any sympathy and makes it position incomparable to that of a random innocent citizen of his nation gunned down on the street for no good reason.

Do you know what "invade" means?

Crossing over into foreign territory without permission with the intent to take their resources as your own.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Esternial » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:53 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I press all the X's to doubt about you being actually upset about this considering you were basically gloating about a migrant child dying at the fucking border the other week.

Thermodolia wrote:I’m completely confused. This is coming from the guy who said that a kid dying at the border was the best thing ever and is a known white supremist. Are you changing again Sai, or are you preparing some sick joke?

What do you think, like really... what do you think?

A child dying because it wasn't helped because nobody cared is somewhat different from a child being actively killed out of hate.

It's not a meaningful distinction to me, both are horrible, but it's not unfathomable that some folks do draw the line between those two occurrences.

I disagree with Sai on many things as well, but let's not write them off as some kind of heartless stereotype. Might as well just put him on ignore since you'll likely not bring anything useful to the table, and you probably won't care what they have to say.

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Postby The Legion of the Shadow » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:03 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Do you know what "invade" means?

Crossing over into foreign territory without permission with the intent to take their resources as your own.

I don't think a innocent child was going to take our resources. Technically, the shooter took our resources by killing the poor girl.

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:29 pm

The Legion of the Shadow wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Crossing over into foreign territory without permission with the intent to take their resources as your own.

I don't think a innocent child was going to take our resources. Technically, the shooter took our resources by killing the poor girl.

We are talking about the migrants from the border incident a while ago here. Not the poor innocent victim of this violent and unprovoked atrocity.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:06 pm

Wait, what's the evidence this was a hate crime?

It's terrible all the same, obviously.
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Postby Gravlen » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:49 am

It is sometimes wise to withold judgement until more is known:

Jan. 5, 2019 -- Harris County Sheriff's Office homicide investigators have filed a capital murder charge against Eric Black Jr. (DOB: 10/10/1998) for the Dec. 30 shooting death of 7-year-old Jazmine Barnes.

Investigators identified Black as a suspect based on a tip.

Subsequent investigation revealed evidence that corroborated the tip, and Black was taken into custody in East Harris County without incident.

Black then admitted to taking part in the shooting. Investigators are continuing to pursue evidence that could possibly lead to other suspects being charged in this case.

Jazmine's mother was driving Jazmine and her three sisters southbound on the East Sam Houston Parkway feeder road near Wallisville Road at approximately 6:50 a.m. when they were fired upon by someone in another vehicle.

At this time, investigators do not believe Jazmine's family was the intended target of the shooting, and that they were possibly shot as a result of mistaken identity.

https://local.nixle.com/alert/7029206/

As to motive, it does not appear to be a hate crime:
Investigators believe the attack on Jazmine's family could have been the result of mistaken identity.

Jazmine's mother, LaPorsha Washington, was also shot and injured. Three other children were in the car at the time.

A composite sketch of the suspect released last week showed a white male believed to be in his 30s or 40s. Eric Black is black, but police say other suspects could be involved.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46775303
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:13 am

Gravlen wrote:It is sometimes wise to withold judgement until more is known:

Jan. 5, 2019 -- Harris County Sheriff's Office homicide investigators have filed a capital murder charge against Eric Black Jr. (DOB: 10/10/1998) for the Dec. 30 shooting death of 7-year-old Jazmine Barnes.

Investigators identified Black as a suspect based on a tip.

Subsequent investigation revealed evidence that corroborated the tip, and Black was taken into custody in East Harris County without incident.

Black then admitted to taking part in the shooting. Investigators are continuing to pursue evidence that could possibly lead to other suspects being charged in this case.

Jazmine's mother was driving Jazmine and her three sisters southbound on the East Sam Houston Parkway feeder road near Wallisville Road at approximately 6:50 a.m. when they were fired upon by someone in another vehicle.

At this time, investigators do not believe Jazmine's family was the intended target of the shooting, and that they were possibly shot as a result of mistaken identity.

https://local.nixle.com/alert/7029206/

As to motive, it does not appear to be a hate crime:
Investigators believe the attack on Jazmine's family could have been the result of mistaken identity.

Jazmine's mother, LaPorsha Washington, was also shot and injured. Three other children were in the car at the time.

A composite sketch of the suspect released last week showed a white male believed to be in his 30s or 40s. Eric Black is black, but police say other suspects could be involved.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46775303

Second suspect has been arrested.

He's also black.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:53 am

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:05 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Gravlen wrote:It is sometimes wise to withold judgement until more is known:

Jan. 5, 2019 -- Harris County Sheriff's Office homicide investigators have filed a capital murder charge against Eric Black Jr. (DOB: 10/10/1998) for the Dec. 30 shooting death of 7-year-old Jazmine Barnes.

Investigators identified Black as a suspect based on a tip.

Subsequent investigation revealed evidence that corroborated the tip, and Black was taken into custody in East Harris County without incident.

Black then admitted to taking part in the shooting. Investigators are continuing to pursue evidence that could possibly lead to other suspects being charged in this case.

Jazmine's mother was driving Jazmine and her three sisters southbound on the East Sam Houston Parkway feeder road near Wallisville Road at approximately 6:50 a.m. when they were fired upon by someone in another vehicle.

At this time, investigators do not believe Jazmine's family was the intended target of the shooting, and that they were possibly shot as a result of mistaken identity.

https://local.nixle.com/alert/7029206/

As to motive, it does not appear to be a hate crime:
Investigators believe the attack on Jazmine's family could have been the result of mistaken identity.

Jazmine's mother, LaPorsha Washington, was also shot and injured. Three other children were in the car at the time.

A composite sketch of the suspect released last week showed a white male believed to be in his 30s or 40s. Eric Black is black, but police say other suspects could be involved.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46775303

Second suspect has been arrested.

He's also black.

So why was there an initial knee-jerk assumption that the shooter was white and committing a hate crime? It seems like some people were pretty quick to make that assumption.

I'm glad they have some suspects. Hopefully they've got the right people and enough evidence to convict.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:09 pm

Luziyca wrote:...honestly, I hope that the perpetrator does not get a slap on the wrist for this horrible crime: life in prison without parole would be the most appropriate, though I would not be opposed to him being executed.

As well, I feel that Saiwania actually proposed a sensible solution when he suggested stricter gun control at a minimum: while I am incredibly skeptical that this would ever happen in the United States, bar a new constitution, I do believe that this would be a good idea to reduce the prevalence of such incidents.

As a footnote, when even Saiwania considers this crime to be a hate crime because of the fact that they're a minority, this crime is way beyond the pale.

Fuck gun control. The existence of assholes is not a valid reason to restrict the gun rights of non-assholes.

Considering it doesn't appear to be a hate crime, and that there never was any evidence that it was, Sai and others jumped the gun. I'm still sceptical of Sai's motivations for posting this thread.
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