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California Women's March cancelled for being too white

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What is the appropriate number of white people to have at an event?

More than 50%
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18%
Less than 50%
5
3%
Less than 25%
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No white people would be best
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California Women's March cancelled for being too white

Postby Kaggeceria » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:14 pm

I wish this was clickbait.
A California Women’s March was canceled because of concerns that its participants have been “overwhelmingly white,” the march’s organizers said.

Organizers announced Friday that the Women’s March would not take place in Eureka, in Humboldt County, California, on Jan. 19 as previously planned due to issues of representation.

“Up to this point, the participants have been overwhelmingly white, lacking representation from several perspectives in our community,” a post on the march’s Facebook page read. “Instead of pushing forward with crucial voices absent, the organizing team will take time for more outreach.”

The decision was made after conversations with local organizers and supporters of the march, according to the statement, which was posted by Facebook user Beth Ann Wylie.

“Our goal is that planning will continue and we will be successful in creating an event that will build power and community engagement through connection between women that seek to improve the lives of all in our community,” the post said.

The Eureka group does not appear to be an official chapter of Women’s March California.

The post was met with a mix of responses, with some thanking the group for its decision and others expressing frustration and calling on organizers to change their minds.

A statement posted to the group's Facebook page on Monday said organizers were moving their focus toward an event on March 9 around International Women’s Day, "to ensure that the people most impacted by systems of oppression have an opportunity to participate in planning."

"We recognize the majority of our current leadership team is white, and planning for this event has been centered around our experiences," the statement said. "In recognizing our failure to put enough effort into being more inclusive, we are attempting to make things right by taking this time to create a more balanced leadership team."

"Our goal moving forward is to ensure the voices of women of color are heard and centered when we come together for the furtherance of the rights and protection of women," the statement said.

U.S. Census Bureau data from July estimate that Humboldt County is more than 74 percent non-Hispanic white.

The move comes after Women’s March Chicago said it would not be marking its third year with another march. The group said in November that because of the time, money and effort spent into an October March to the Polls event ahead of the midterm elections that it would not be hosting another march in January.

The October march drew an estimated 100,000 people to Grant Park in Chicago, the group said in a statement on Facebook.

Instead, the group said Saturday it was celebrating its third anniversary by calling on people to "spearhead an action in your community that helps people feel safe, included, respected and represented, while encouraging others to activate."

Millions of men and women across the world have turned out for Women’s Marches over the last two years, but even from its inception there were questions about its racial representation and inclusiveness.

As the national Women’s March organization prepares for its third round of annual rallies in Washington, D.C., and across the U.S. it has been rocked by divisions within the broader movement.

The leadership of Women’s March, Inc. has been roiled in controversy over its ties to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and claims of anti-Semitism.

The Chicago march said in a follow up post on its Facebook page that the decision not to hold back-to-back marches was made last spring and was not based “on the actions or activities of any other organization — including Women’s March Inc.” The group has previously highlighted that it has never been affiliated with Women’s March, Inc.

Teresa Shook, one of the original founders of the national Women’s March, called for Bob Bland, Tamika Mallory, Linda Sarsour and Carmen Perez, the national co-chairs of Women’s March, Inc., to step down.

Shook said in a post on Facebook in November that the co-chairs “have steered the Movement away from its true course.”

The group has said it rejects “anti-Semitism in all its forms.”

“We want to say emphatically that we do not support or endorse statements made by Minister Louis Farrakhan about women, Jewish and LGBTQ communities,” the group said in a post in November.

Essentially another iteration of the Women's March was cancelled due to concerns that too many participants would be white. And as we know, shutting down events because of the skin color of their participants is peak diversity in the current year. I, for one, welcome this decision to shut down the march as the Women's March has always been completely cancerous and its organizers are likewise toxic individuals who should be socially ostracized and probably exiled to some far corner of Kansas. However, I think this displays just how toxic Third Wave Feminism and neoliberal culture have become to the point where they are willing to shut down their own events due to "diversity" concerns.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:17 pm

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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:17 pm

I take great offense to this post, what did my state of Kansas ever do to deserve such a fate
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:17 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:I wish this was clickbait.
A California Women’s March was canceled because of concerns that its participants have been “overwhelmingly white,” the march’s organizers said.

Organizers announced Friday that the Women’s March would not take place in Eureka, in Humboldt County, California, on Jan. 19 as previously planned due to issues of representation.

“Up to this point, the participants have been overwhelmingly white, lacking representation from several perspectives in our community,” a post on the march’s Facebook page read. “Instead of pushing forward with crucial voices absent, the organizing team will take time for more outreach.”

The decision was made after conversations with local organizers and supporters of the march, according to the statement, which was posted by Facebook user Beth Ann Wylie.

“Our goal is that planning will continue and we will be successful in creating an event that will build power and community engagement through connection between women that seek to improve the lives of all in our community,” the post said.

The Eureka group does not appear to be an official chapter of Women’s March California.

The post was met with a mix of responses, with some thanking the group for its decision and others expressing frustration and calling on organizers to change their minds.

A statement posted to the group's Facebook page on Monday said organizers were moving their focus toward an event on March 9 around International Women’s Day, "to ensure that the people most impacted by systems of oppression have an opportunity to participate in planning."

"We recognize the majority of our current leadership team is white, and planning for this event has been centered around our experiences," the statement said. "In recognizing our failure to put enough effort into being more inclusive, we are attempting to make things right by taking this time to create a more balanced leadership team."

"Our goal moving forward is to ensure the voices of women of color are heard and centered when we come together for the furtherance of the rights and protection of women," the statement said.

U.S. Census Bureau data from July estimate that Humboldt County is more than 74 percent non-Hispanic white.

The move comes after Women’s March Chicago said it would not be marking its third year with another march. The group said in November that because of the time, money and effort spent into an October March to the Polls event ahead of the midterm elections that it would not be hosting another march in January.

The October march drew an estimated 100,000 people to Grant Park in Chicago, the group said in a statement on Facebook.

Instead, the group said Saturday it was celebrating its third anniversary by calling on people to "spearhead an action in your community that helps people feel safe, included, respected and represented, while encouraging others to activate."

Millions of men and women across the world have turned out for Women’s Marches over the last two years, but even from its inception there were questions about its racial representation and inclusiveness.

As the national Women’s March organization prepares for its third round of annual rallies in Washington, D.C., and across the U.S. it has been rocked by divisions within the broader movement.

The leadership of Women’s March, Inc. has been roiled in controversy over its ties to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and claims of anti-Semitism.

The Chicago march said in a follow up post on its Facebook page that the decision not to hold back-to-back marches was made last spring and was not based “on the actions or activities of any other organization — including Women’s March Inc.” The group has previously highlighted that it has never been affiliated with Women’s March, Inc.

Teresa Shook, one of the original founders of the national Women’s March, called for Bob Bland, Tamika Mallory, Linda Sarsour and Carmen Perez, the national co-chairs of Women’s March, Inc., to step down.

Shook said in a post on Facebook in November that the co-chairs “have steered the Movement away from its true course.”

The group has said it rejects “anti-Semitism in all its forms.”

“We want to say emphatically that we do not support or endorse statements made by Minister Louis Farrakhan about women, Jewish and LGBTQ communities,” the group said in a post in November.

Essentially another iteration of the Women's March was cancelled due to concerns that too many participants would be white. And as we know, shutting down events because of the skin color of their participants is peak diversity in the current year. I, for one, welcome this decision to shut down the march as the Women's March has always been completely cancerous and its organizers are likewise toxic individuals who should be socially ostracized and probably exiled to some far corner of Kansas. However, I think this displays just how toxic Third Wave Feminism and neoliberal culture have become to the point where they are willing to shut down their own events due to "diversity" concerns.

Thoughts?


An absolutely retarded reason to cancel something because the participants are more than x (insert color, sex, etc.)
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:18 pm

That is monumentally fucking stupid.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:19 pm

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:I take great offense to this post, what did my state of Kansas ever do to deserve such a fate

Sorry lad, but someone has to make the sacrifice.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:20 pm

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:20 pm

Thats stupid.

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:21 pm

Actually, it’s not surprising. This is California after all.
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:21 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:I take great offense to this post, what did my state of Kansas ever do to deserve such a fate

Sorry lad, but someone has to make the sacrifice.


Im gonna let Missouri take this one
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:22 pm

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Postby Frostnia » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:24 pm

Inb4 "This is why Trump won"
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:24 pm

I see no issue with this. An event meant to elevate marginalized voices realizes its falling into the same trap and adjusts shocker.

Outrage denied. No need to apply again.
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Postby Purnelaw » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:25 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
The Eureka group does not appear to be an official chapter of Women’s March California.

Sounds like a small pocket of collective dumb to me, no need to invalidate the whole movement.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:26 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I see no issue with this. An event meant to elevate marginalized voices realizes its falling into the same trap and adjusts shocker.

Outrage denied. No need to apply again.

Yes, an individual with a cancerous mentality would also likewise not find any issue with others holding a similarly cancerous mentality.
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Postby The National Salvation Front for Russia » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:27 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I see no issue with this. An event meant to elevate marginalized voices realizes its falling into the same trap and adjusts shocker.

Outrage denied. No need to apply again.

In an area with a 74% White population, it's only to be expected that the majority of women partaking in the march are white. What are they going to do, bus colored people in?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:27 pm

Purnelaw wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:

Sounds like a small pocket of collective dumb to me.

While I reject the premise that it's dumb, for context the population of Eureka is under 30,000 people.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:I see no issue with this. An event meant to elevate marginalized voices realizes its falling into the same trap and adjusts shocker.

Outrage denied. No need to apply again.

There is quite a difference between “elevating marginalized voices” and outright canceling something because “white people bad”
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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:29 pm

Frostnia wrote:Inb4 "This is why Trump won"


This IS one of several reasons why trump won. The Alt-Right is fed by those who identity politics alienate. When they say "create a more balanced leadership team" they mean people will be losing their positions expressly because of their race.
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Postby Almorea » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:29 pm

A sad commentary on identity politics and virtue signalling... I wonder how many tolerant liberals feel the same way.

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Frostnia wrote:Inb4 "This is why Trump won"

This is a big part of why Trump won.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:30 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:I see no issue with this. An event meant to elevate marginalized voices realizes its falling into the same trap and adjusts shocker.

Outrage denied. No need to apply again.

In an area with a 74% White population, it's only to be expected that the majority of women partaking in the march are white. What are they going to do, bus colored people in?

Are you suggesting that an event invite speakers to attend who might have to travel? What fucking wizardry is this? Why, such thing are unheard of in this time...we'd have to invent some sort of method for communication across distance, mechanisms to transport people in a timely manner, and the infrastructure to operate them...why the very idea is madness. MADNESS I say.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:30 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I see no issue with this. An event meant to elevate marginalized voices realizes its falling into the same trap and adjusts shocker.

Outrage denied. No need to apply again.

There is quite a difference between “elevating marginalized voices” and outright canceling something because “white people bad”

It is quite impossible to tell the difference anymore.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:31 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I see no issue with this. An event meant to elevate marginalized voices realizes its falling into the same trap and adjusts shocker.

Outrage denied. No need to apply again.

There is quite a difference between “elevating marginalized voices” and outright canceling something because “white people bad”

Cool. That latter part didn't happen though, so we're still cool.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:32 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Frostnia wrote:Inb4 "This is why Trump won"


This IS one of several reasons why trump won. The Alt-Right is fed by those who identity politics alienate. When they say "create a more balanced leadership team" they mean people will be losing their positions expressly because of their race.

It’s a vicious cycle, the way I see it. Identity Politics liberals hate on demographic, said demographic sees shift towards reactionary ideology, identity politics liberals use said shift to hate on said demographic, demographic becomes even more radicalized, repeat.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:32 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:There is quite a difference between “elevating marginalized voices” and outright canceling something because “white people bad”

Cool. That latter part didn't happen though, so we're still cool.

It did, though. The event was cancelled specifically because too many white people were attending.

And cancelling an event because too many people of a certain race are attending is usually a bad thing.

Usually.
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