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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:14 pm
by Telconi
San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
No government represents everyone.

But its designed to represent as many people as possible not a select few.


No it is not.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:15 pm
by United Muscovite Nations
San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
No government represents everyone.

But its designed to represent as many people as possible not a select few.

If two highly populated areas control the vast majority of the representatives, how does the government represent everyone?

This is the flaw of mass government, it can't be mitigated, there always has to be someone left behind without representation.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:16 pm
by San Lumen
Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:But its designed to represent as many people as possible not a select few.


No it is not.

Then who does it represent? And dont say not me because my party doesnt have the majority or the representatives are ought to get you. I'd like a actual argument from you other then mass conspiracy

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:17 pm
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom
Yes... Brilliant. This is some serious sjw mind acrobatics logic. Farmers deserve disproportionate representation because they are rich in land wealth. People in the city should have less say because they are numerous.

Look in the US rural regions already get more representatives. This should be ended. That is what the Senate was made for. Honestly though this is blatently "reliably Republican regions should get weighted votes for being Republican!!1111!!1!!"

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:17 pm
by Dresderstan
San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
No government represents everyone.

But its designed to represent as many people as possible not a select few.

No it's not, it's supposed to represent everyone, which our government clearly does not do.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:18 pm
by Telconi
San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
No it is not.

Then who does it represent? And dont say not me because my party doesnt have the majority or the representatives are ought to get you. I'd like a actual argument from you other then mass conspiracy


The existence of the Democrat party is a conspiracy?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:18 pm
by San Lumen
Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:But its designed to represent as many people as possible not a select few.

No it's not, it's supposed to represent everyone, which our government clearly does not do.


It does. You are only calling for change because your candidates lose. I can guarantee if your candidates won you would not be calling for reform

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:19 pm
by Telconi
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Yes... Brilliant. This is some serious sjw mind acrobatics logic. Farmers deserve disproportionate representation because they are rich in land wealth. People in the city should have less say because they are numerous.

Look in the US rural regions already get more representatives. This should be ended. That is what the Senate was made for. Honestly though this is blatently "reliably Republican regions should get weighted votes for being Republican!!1111!!1!!"


The subject is state governments, do address the actual conversation please.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:20 pm
by United Muscovite Nations
San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No it's not, it's supposed to represent everyone, which our government clearly does not do.


It does. You are only calling for change because your candidates lose. I can guarantee if your candidates won you would not be calling for reform

If it does represent everyone, why do you want to do away with current representation?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:22 pm
by San Lumen
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It does. You are only calling for change because your candidates lose. I can guarantee if your candidates won you would not be calling for reform

If it does represent everyone, why do you want to do away with current representation?


I dont want to do anyway with current representation

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:22 pm
by Telconi
San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No it's not, it's supposed to represent everyone, which our government clearly does not do.


It does. You are only calling for change because your candidates lose. I can guarantee if your candidates won you would not be calling for reform


I'm curious why you thought that people from all those Muslim countries should be banned from entering the country.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:22 pm
by United Muscovite Nations
San Lumen wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If it does represent everyone, why do you want to do away with current representation?


I dont want to do anyway with current representation

Then why make this thread?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:26 pm
by Dresderstan
San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No it's not, it's supposed to represent everyone, which our government clearly does not do.


It does. You are only calling for change because your candidates lose. I can guarantee if your candidates won you would not be calling for reform

No it doesn't, and you know that.

False.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:30 pm
by San Lumen
Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It does. You are only calling for change because your candidates lose. I can guarantee if your candidates won you would not be calling for reform

No it doesn't, and you know that.

False.


Does your Governor or mayor not represent you? Would it be fairer if the statewide elections where by who won the most counties?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:30 pm
by Dresderstan
San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No it doesn't, and you know that.

False.


Does your Governor or mayor not represent you? Would it be fairer if the statewide elections where by who won the most counties?

Your condescending ignorance does you absolutely nothing for you.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:31 pm
by San Lumen
Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Does your Governor or mayor not represent you? Would it be fairer if the statewide elections where by who won the most counties?

Your condescending ignorance does you absolutely nothing for you.


How is that condescending ignorance?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:33 pm
by Telconi
San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No it doesn't, and you know that.

False.


Does your Governor or mayor not represent you? Would it be fairer if the statewide elections where by who won the most counties?


My governor does not represent me, as evidenced by him not having himself arrested.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:33 pm
by United Muscovite Nations
San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No it doesn't, and you know that.

False.


Does your Governor or mayor not represent you? Would it be fairer if the statewide elections where by who won the most counties?

How can a man who has never even met me represent me?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:34 pm
by Telconi
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Does your Governor or mayor not represent you? Would it be fairer if the statewide elections where by who won the most counties?

How can a man who has never even met me represent me?


I mean, if he said what you want, I suppose he could.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:35 pm
by San Lumen
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Does your Governor or mayor not represent you? Would it be fairer if the statewide elections where by who won the most counties?

How can a man who has never even met me represent me?

Why not a woman?

The governor is elected by the entire state.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:36 pm
by Zex
So I guess Trump represents everyone in America.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:37 pm
by Telconi
San Lumen wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:How can a man who has never even met me represent me?

Why not a woman?

The governor is elected by the entire state.


Because his governor is a man?

No. the governor is elected by the faction of the state which achieves a voting majority.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:38 pm
by Telconi
Zex wrote:So I guess Trump represents everyone in America.


Lumen wants to build the wall to keep them bad hombres out.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:42 pm
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom
Telconi wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Yes... Brilliant. This is some serious sjw mind acrobatics logic. Farmers deserve disproportionate representation because they are rich in land wealth. People in the city should have less say because they are numerous.

Look in the US rural regions already get more representatives. This should be ended. That is what the Senate was made for. Honestly though this is blatently "reliably Republican regions should get weighted votes for being Republican!!1111!!1!!"


The subject is state governments, do address the actual conversation please.

All 50 state government s in the US have bicameral congress's. My statement covers state as well as federal governments.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:43 pm
by Dresderstan
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Telconi wrote:
The subject is state governments, do address the actual conversation please.

All 50 state government s in the US have bicameral congress's. My statement covers state as well as federal governments.

Actually not all of them do, Nebraska is the only state with a unicameral state legislature.