In all seriousness, depending on the context, a “disagreement” can be a perfect reason to hate somebody.
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by Ors Might » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:43 pm
by Telconi » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:44 pm
by Ors Might » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:50 pm
Telconi wrote:Ors Might wrote:In all seriousness, depending on the context, a “disagreement” can be a perfect reason to hate somebody.
Which is essentially the point. To boil everything down to agreement and disagreement is preposterous.
For example, I disagree with people who like the New York Jets. I also disagree with people who want to exterminate Jews, to treat both disagreements equally is preposterous.
by The Two Jerseys » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:50 pm
by Telconi » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:55 pm
Ors Might wrote:Telconi wrote:
Which is essentially the point. To boil everything down to agreement and disagreement is preposterous.
For example, I disagree with people who like the New York Jets. I also disagree with people who want to exterminate Jews, to treat both disagreements equally is preposterous.
Tfw the tolerance paradox means you have to respect the Nazi Party of America
by Ors Might » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:55 pm
The Two Jerseys wrote:Ors Might wrote:In all seriousness, depending on the context, a “disagreement” can be a perfect reason to hate somebody.
Someone once told me about these two doctors they knew at a hospital: one was German and one was Russian, and both of them lived through World War II.
Apparently they couldn't be on the same floor of the building at the same time, because if one of them so much as saw the other, shit would get real ugly.
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:56 pm
Ors Might wrote:San Lumen wrote:Yes it does. Someone in San Francisco has equal right to vote as someone in Telconi's town does.
And that is a stupid argument. Why should the minority decide who your executive is? You had an election your candidate lost.
If someone votes for a fucking Nazi, I have zero respect for their vote. They have every right to cast that vote but the person themselves can get bent.
Telconi wrote:San Lumen wrote:Yes it does. Someone in San Francisco has equal right to vote as someone in Telconi's town does.
And that is a stupid argument. Why should the minority decide who your executive is? You had an election your candidate lost.
Literally in one post, you defend the idea that everyone's beliefs deserve respect, and then state that my alleged beliefs (which aren't actually my beliefs) are stupid.
Perhaps you could at least pretend to have some level of consistency...
by Ors Might » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:56 pm
by Ors Might » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:57 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ors Might wrote:If someone votes for a fucking Nazi, I have zero respect for their vote. They have every right to cast that vote but the person themselves can get bent.
I agree with you on that. A literal Nazi was on the ballot in Illinois 3rd district. He stood little chance of winning but how he got a single vote is beyond my understandingTelconi wrote:
Literally in one post, you defend the idea that everyone's beliefs deserve respect, and then state that my alleged beliefs (which aren't actually my beliefs) are stupid.
Perhaps you could at least pretend to have some level of consistency...
They do deserve respect and that is why we have this thing called elections and why you have a representative just like San Francisco does to advocate for your beliefs
by Telconi » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:57 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ors Might wrote:If someone votes for a fucking Nazi, I have zero respect for their vote. They have every right to cast that vote but the person themselves can get bent.
I agree with you on that. A literal Nazi was on the ballot in Illinois 3rd district. He stood little chance of winning but how he got a single vote is beyond my understandingTelconi wrote:
Literally in one post, you defend the idea that everyone's beliefs deserve respect, and then state that my alleged beliefs (which aren't actually my beliefs) are stupid.
Perhaps you could at least pretend to have some level of consistency...
They do deserve respect and that is why we have this thing called elections and why you have a representative just like San Francisco does to advocate for your beliefs
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:58 pm
Telconi wrote:San Lumen wrote:I agree with you on that. A literal Nazi was on the ballot in Illinois 3rd district. He stood little chance of winning but how he got a single vote is beyond my understanding
They do deserve respect and that is why we have this thing called elections and why you have a representative just like San Francisco does to advocate for your beliefs
You just agreed with a belief the opposite of what you just told me...
by Telconi » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:00 pm
by Ors Might » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:02 pm
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:02 pm
by Telconi » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:05 pm
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
You agreed that a vote for a Nazi shouldn't be respected, and yet you say that every vote should be respected.
So which is it?
Everyone has a equal right to vote regardless of being on a farm or if they reside in a big city. If they choose to vote for a Nazi that is their right but I am under no obligation to respect that person but their vote should be
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:07 pm
Telconi wrote:San Lumen wrote:Everyone has a equal right to vote regardless of being on a farm or if they reside in a big city. If they choose to vote for a Nazi that is their right but I am under no obligation to respect that person but their vote should be
Would you perhaps say that those who vote for Nazis are "bad people"?
by Telconi » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:08 pm
by Thermodolia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:51 pm
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
I care about important things, how terrible of me.
Because the road building is literally an example of things that don't matter, how you pay for the roads that don't matter doesn't matter...
Its the single thing you believe is important
How does road building not matter? If state highways crumble how can the trucking industry function?
I am not following your line of thought here. Are you saying you dont care if highways fall apart?
by Thermodolia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:55 pm
by Wallenburg » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:51 am
by Telconi » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:12 am
Wallenburg wrote:5 pages since my last post and people are still talking about Nazis. Is there really no other way you all can communicate your ideas outside the scope of Nazism?
by Kubra » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:17 am
This thread was silly before, it's even sillier now.Wallenburg wrote:5 pages since my last post and people are still talking about Nazis. Is there really no other way you all can communicate your ideas outside the scope of Nazism?
by Doing it Rightland » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:05 am
San Lumen wrote:You clearly do not understand how budgets work. A lawmaker from a rural county advocates for what they need and the same goes for one from a urban area. The budget is put together with input from everyone. Dividing funds out based on need is whats already done.
Doing it Rightland wrote:...the state would continue to tax that stuff, and simply divide out the funds proportionately according to each county's needs...
San Lumen wrote:Plus you can't simply have all the counties just raise taxes. In some rural counties its simply not feasible.
by San Lumen » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:37 am
Doing it Rightland wrote:San Lumen wrote:You clearly do not understand how budgets work. A lawmaker from a rural county advocates for what they need and the same goes for one from a urban area. The budget is put together with input from everyone. Dividing funds out based on need is whats already done.
Hi, me again. I do understand how budgets work; I said the following yesterday, demonstrating that I too am not an idiot, and that I am well aware that the division of funds is already happening.Doing it Rightland wrote:...the state would continue to tax that stuff, and simply divide out the funds proportionately according to each county's needs...
Next,San Lumen wrote:Plus you can't simply have all the counties just raise taxes. In some rural counties its simply not feasible.
Then the state does the taxing. That's one of the options I gave.
by Wallenburg » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:45 pm
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