Weighting Rural Votes?/Election Reform

[San Lumen]

No they aren't. Some things are local issues and some things are not

States do have different laws...

Yes they do on some things. I am not disputing that

[Telconi]

States do have different laws...

Yes they do on some things. I am not disputing that

Ojay, so there are certain legal things in some places which are not legal the others. How is making the physical borders of such places smaller an issue?

[San Lumen]

Yes they do on some things. I am not disputing that

Ojay, so there are certain legal things in some places which are not legal the others. How is making the physical borders of such places smaller an issue?

Do you really think having a patchwork of laws over every county in a state on some issues is sustainable?

[Telconi]

Ojay, so there are certain legal things in some places which are not legal the others. How is making the physical borders of such places smaller an issue?

Do you really think having a patchwork of laws over every county in a state on some issues is sustainable?

I believe it's more sustainable than having laws which are applied to people who don't want them.

[San Lumen]

Do you really think having a patchwork of laws over every county in a state on some issues is sustainable?

I believe it's more sustainable than having laws which are applied to people who don't want them.

No it really isn't. The state legislature has people from all over the state. I am not going to explain to you again how government works.

I will give you a perfect example one more time. Lets say two men get married in San Francisco they then move to a very red county where the county government has said they are not recognized as a couple nor is their adopted children recognized as their son or daughter. Do you see how this wouldn't work? Granted there are some bigger issues I could use but I couldn't think of another at the moment

[Telconi]

I believe it's more sustainable than having laws which are applied to people who don't want them.

No it really isn't. The state legislature has people from all over the state. I am not going to explain to you again how government works.

I will give you a perfect example one more time. Lets say two men get married in San Francisco they then move to a very red county where the county government has said they are not recognized as a couple nor is their adopted children recognized as their son or daughter. Do you see how this wouldn't work? Granted there are some bigger issues I could use but I couldn't think of another at the moment

Thank Christ, ham fisted civics lessons are my least favorite thing to read.

I don't see how it wouldn't work. Their marriage would be annulled, and their child placed in foster care.

[San Lumen]

No it really isn't. The state legislature has people from all over the state. I am not going to explain to you again how government works.

I will give you a perfect example one more time. Lets say two men get married in San Francisco they then move to a very red county where the county government has said they are not recognized as a couple nor is their adopted children recognized as their son or daughter. Do you see how this wouldn't work? Granted there are some bigger issues I could use but I couldn't think of another at the moment

Thank Christ, ham fisted civics lessons are my least favorite thing to read.

I don't see how it wouldn't work. Their marriage would be annulled, and their child placed in foster care.

So just because they moved they lose their children? How dictatorial.

[Telconi]

Thank Christ, ham fisted civics lessons are my least favorite thing to read.

I don't see how it wouldn't work. Their marriage would be annulled, and their child placed in foster care.

So just because they moved they lose their children? How dictatorial.

Pepole lose stuff when moving to different legal districts, this isn't new.

[San Lumen]

So just because they moved they lose their children? How dictatorial.

Pepole lose stuff when moving to different legal districts, this isn't new.

Things like marriage and children aren't one of them and shouldn't be

[Telconi]

Pepole lose stuff when moving to different legal districts, this isn't new.

Things like marriage and children aren't one of them and shouldn't be

What should or shouldn't be is a matter of opinion.

[San Lumen]

Things like marriage and children aren't one of them and shouldn't be

What should or shouldn't be is a matter of opinion.

But do you get that you can't have a patchwork of laws on certain things? Its simply not feasible. Some things are not local issues,

Farming is another thing that isn;t local. Its a state issue

[Telconi]

What should or shouldn't be is a matter of opinion.

But do you get that you can't have a patchwork of laws on certain things? Its simply not feasible. Some things are not local issues

We presently do have a patchwork of laws on things... You say it isn't feasible, and yet it is the current system.

[San Lumen]

But do you get that you can't have a patchwork of laws on certain things? Its simply not feasible. Some things are not local issues

We presently do have a patchwork of laws on things... You say it isn't feasible, and yet it is the current system.

On some issues yes because their is no state or federal law on them.

Farming is another thing that isn't a local issue.

[Telconi]

We presently do have a patchwork of laws on things... You say it isn't feasible, and yet it is the current system.

On some issues yes because their is no state or federal law on them.

Farming is another thing that isn't a local issue.

Okay, so what makes any issues categorically different?

Having interned for a local regulatory board on farming, I can tell you this is factually incorrect.

[Holy Tedalonia]

I believe it's more sustainable than having laws which are applied to people who don't want them.

No it really isn't. The state legislature has people from all over the state. I am not going to explain to you again how government works.

I will give you a perfect example one more time. Lets say two men get married in San Francisco they then move to a very red county where the county government has said they are not recognized as a couple nor is their adopted children recognized as their son or daughter. Do you see how this wouldn't work? Granted there are some bigger issues I could use but I couldn't think of another at the moment

County’s have to listen to the state legislature. Our current system of county laws works, mainly because of this. A important thing to note is that counties main laws relate to taxes.

[San Lumen]

On some issues yes because their is no state or federal law on them.

Farming is another thing that isn't a local issue.

Okay, so what makes any issues categorically different?

Having interned for a local regulatory board on farming, I can tell you this is factually incorrect.

The scope of them and who and what they effect is one of them.

I didnt know local regulatory boards for farming existed. You do have a state department of agriculture in Sacramento which sets policy for farming in every county

[Telconi]

Okay, so what makes any issues categorically different?

Having interned for a local regulatory board on farming, I can tell you this is factually incorrect.

The scope of them and who and what they effect is one of them.

I didnt know local regulatory boards for farming existed. You do have a state department of agriculture in Sacramento which sets policy for farming in every county

So basically, rather you like them a lot.

Well maybe now you do. And yes, I am aware that such a department unfortunately exists...

[San Lumen]

The scope of them and who and what they effect is one of them.

I didnt know local regulatory boards for farming existed. You do have a state department of agriculture in Sacramento which sets policy for farming in every county

So basically, rather you like them a lot.

Well maybe now you do. And yes, I am aware that such a department unfortunately exists...

Why unfortunately?

[Telconi]

So basically, rather you like them a lot.

Well maybe now you do. And yes, I am aware that such a department unfortunately exists...

Why unfortunately?

Because it's a state entity.

[San Lumen]

Why unfortunately?

Because it's a state entity.

And that is unfortunate for what reason?

[Telconi]

Because it's a state entity.

And that is unfortunate for what reason?

It enables the state to excersize legal power.

[San Lumen]

And that is unfortunate for what reason?

It enables the state to excersize legal power.

and your point is?

[Telconi]

It enables the state to excersize legal power.

and your point is?

That it enables the state to excersize legal power, and that this situation is unfortunate.

[San Lumen]

and your point is?

That it enables the state to excersize legal power, and that this situation is unfortunate.

Why shouldn't there be a Department of Agriculture? Do you know why we have state and a federal department? Its to prevent another Dust Bowl.

[Telconi]

That it enables the state to excersize legal power, and that this situation is unfortunate.

Why shouldn't there be a Department of Agriculture? Do you know why we have state and a federal department? Its to prevent another Dust Bowl.

It has nothing to do with it being a Department of Agriculture, it has to do with it being *California's* department of Agriculture.