2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Valrifell]

I will say though that I don't think Swalwell is actually trying to run for President. He's just an insurgent candidate trying to drag the party even further left on guns by just being there.

A less good version of Gravel.

[Kowani]

Yes, the quality of ideas is always linked to their popularity. Never could it be possible that the American electorate could be formed of impatient people who don’t have scholar level knowledge of economics.

Aside from her fan base, people care about tangible things. This can’t win her the election. Maybe the nomination...

https://elizabethwarren.com/issues/?sou ... ddle-class

I wasn’t aware any of this was intangible.

[Hediacrana]

Interestingly, Warren's policy plans are getting her traction with one particular demographic: African Americans.

[Senkaku]

I will say though that I don't think Swalwell is actually trying to run for President. He's just an insurgent candidate trying to drag the party even further left on guns by just being there.

A less good version of Gravel.

Gravel's Twitter is so annoying like it's so transparently being written by those teenagers who got him to run and ugh... simplistic and irritating hot takes just non fuckin stop

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

It is dead when she leaves tangible ideas behind in favor of something the Snerican public will not care about at the polls.

Name a single tangible idea she left behind.

We aren’t talking about what she left behind. The argument was over if pushing the impeach trump idea was a good one to use. Sure, she still has her nonsense on her website. She wasted time when she could have been campaigning for actual policies campaigning for this crap.

[Senkaku]

It'll work for the Democratic base, which is who she's desperately trying to appeal to at the moment. Whether or not she can make it happen (she can't) is irrelevant, it's part of her campaign strategy of appealing to the Progressive base, being this on-brand is good for the candidate at this stage of the game.

Since she's been struggling with messaging and breaking out thus far, she's most likely looking for anything to boost her odds getting the nod, even if that might bite her later in the general (assuming she gets it).

Yeah, I mean, getting to the primaries: It is an ok strategy. Winning the election, bad strategy.

...you have to get through the primaries to win the election lol

[Hediacrana]

It is dead when she leaves tangible ideas behind in favor of something the Snerican public will not care about at the polls.

Name a single tangible idea she left behind.

We aren’t talking about what she left behind. The argument was over if pushing the impeach trump idea was a good one to use. Sure, she still has her nonsense on her website. She wasted time when she could have been campaigning for actual policies campaigning for this crap.

Reading the quote above, you may note that you were the one to suggest she's leaving tangible things behind.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I will say though that I don't think Swalwell is actually trying to run for President. He's just an insurgent candidate trying to drag the party even further left on guns by just being there.

A less good version of Gravel.

What, you mean threatening to imprison and or nuke gun owners isn't a winning strategy? NRA shill

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

Yeah, I mean, getting to the primaries: It is an ok strategy. Winning the election, bad strategy.

...you have to get through the primaries to win the election lol

Mhm. You do but wining the election is the end goal.

[Valrifell]

Name a single tangible idea she left behind.

We aren’t talking about what she left behind. The argument was over if pushing the impeach trump idea was a good one to use. Sure, she still has her nonsense on her website. She wasted time when she could have been campaigning for actual policies campaigning for this crap.

She's been trying that, the base isn't biting (with a few notable exceptions) for a variety of reasons. Principle among these being that the Democratic base is less concerned about policy and way more concerned about winning.

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

It is dead when she leaves tangible ideas behind in favor of something the Snerican public will not care about at the polls.

We aren’t talking about what she left behind. The argument was over if pushing the impeach trump idea was a good one to use. Sure, she still has her nonsense on her website. She wasted time when she could have been campaigning for actual policies campaigning for this crap.

Reading the quote above, you may note that you were the one to suggest she's leaving tangible things behind.

Not focusing on, perhaps, is the better term.

[Kowani]

I will say though that I don't think Swalwell is actually trying to run for President. He's just an insurgent candidate trying to drag the party even further left on guns by just being there.

A less good version of Gravel.

But is he better than Sand?

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

We aren’t talking about what she left behind. The argument was over if pushing the impeach trump idea was a good one to use. Sure, she still has her nonsense on her website. She wasted time when she could have been campaigning for actual policies campaigning for this crap.

She's been trying that, the base isn't biting (with a few notable exceptions) for a variety of reasons. Principle among these being that the Democratic base is less concerned about policy and way more concerned about winning.

That last part is certainly true. You have to swing people on the fence though to win the presidency. You can’t just cater to your fan base.

[Valrifell]

A less good version of Gravel.

But is he better than Sand?

Certainty far worse than Sanders

[Hediacrana]

Reading the quote above, you may note that you were the one to suggest she's leaving tangible things behind.

Not focusing on, perhaps, is the better term.

All right. So she's not leaving her many, many highly tangible policy proposals behind after all. Noted.

Now, does that mean her campaign is dead in the water? Hardly. She still has all these proposals, and you can bet those will come up in the many debates that are still to come. In the meantime, though, she's also managed to capture some headlines, which can only increase the interest in her candidacy and her policy platform.

[Kowani]

But is he better than Sand?

Certainty far worse than Sanders

Y’see, I was going for a Minecraft joke, but you know, that works too.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Just got an ad from Gabbard snarking about Neocons and Neolibs dragging us into wars. It came across so sanctimonious that it was actually pretty funny.

[Tyrassueb]

So Pete Buttigieg wants to enact a compulsory National Service to "foster social cohesion"?

[Telconi]

So Pete Buttigieg wants to enact a compulsory National Service to "foster social cohesion"?

Nothing unites a nation like a douchey government amirite?

[Valrifell]

So Pete Buttigieg wants to enact a compulsory National Service to "foster social cohesion"?

A stretch, to be sure.

[Valrifell]

So Pete Buttigieg wants to enact a compulsory National Service to "foster social cohesion"?

Nothing unites a nation like a douchey government amirite?

The CCC literally did nothing wrong.

[South Odreria]

So Pete Buttigieg wants to enact a compulsory National Service to "foster social cohesion"?

On the iffy side

[Blargoblarg]

Apparently Biden is probably going to announce he's running next week. I think he won't last long enough to come close to winning in the primary due to his tendency to make gaffes, and the fact that his political record is pretty much terrible and way out of touch with many people who are likely to vote in the Democratic primary.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-bide ... c2f295ba31
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/ ... -2020.html

[Genivaria]

So Pete Buttigieg wants to enact a compulsory National Service to "foster social cohesion"?

From a fucking Democrat!? That's awesome!
SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP! DO YOUR PART CITIZEN!

"We really want to talk about the threat to social cohesion that helps characterize this presidency but also just this era," the mayor of South Bend, Ind., told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "One thing we could do that would change that would be to make it, if not legally obligatory, but certainly a social norm that anybody after they're 18 spends a year in national service."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/ ... am-1277274

[Duhon]

Apparently Biden is probably going to announce he's running next week. I think he won't last long enough to come close to winning in the primary due to his tendency to make gaffes, and the fact that his political record is pretty much terrible and way out of touch with many people who are likely to vote in the Democratic primary.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-bide ... c2f295ba31
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/ ... -2020.html

Joe Biden would be a weak presidential candidate in any US presidential election, short of a matchup between him and a potentially genocidal figure. Say, a sHitler or a Pol Pot.

Change my mind.