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2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

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Which Candidate do you support?

Bernie
102
33%
Beto
3
1%
Biden
15
5%
Buttigieg
27
9%
Harris
4
1%
Warren
17
6%
Yang
24
8%
Trump
88
29%
Weld
3
1%
Other
25
8%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Godular » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:00 am

Valrifell wrote:
Hediacrana wrote:Bit of a shame Beto is not in the options -- I mean, he would not be my favoured candidate, and I get that he doesn't meet the criteria of this poll, but for better or worse, chances of him not running frankly seem pretty low to me at this point, and I bet results would look look quite different if he was in there.


He's been pretty adamant about not running in every single interview he's been asked and hasn't taken any steps to prepare for such a campaign. Unlike, say, Warren or Booker who have essentially declared their intention months ago and just didn't voice it yet.


He'd be a good veep choice, at the very least.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:01 am

Godular wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
He's been pretty adamant about not running in every single interview he's been asked and hasn't taken any steps to prepare for such a campaign. Unlike, say, Warren or Booker who have essentially declared their intention months ago and just didn't voice it yet.


He'd be a good veep choice though, if he decides against running for the big chair.


Unless Castro wins of course, then he can't get it.
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Postby Godular » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:02 am

Shrillland wrote:
Godular wrote:
He'd be a good veep choice though, if he decides against running for the big chair.


Unless Castro wins of course, then he can't get it.


Wins the presidency or the primary? And in either case, why?
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:06 am

Godular wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Unless Castro wins of course, then he can't get it.


Wins the presidency or the primary? And in either case, why?


Wins the primary. The Constitution doesn't allow the President and the Vice President to come from the same state. More specifically, it says the electors can't vote for two candidates from the same state as themselves.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:08 am

What happen to Bernie Sanders?
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:09 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What happen to Bernie Sanders?


He hasn't declared.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:10 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What happen to Bernie Sanders?


Potential scenario, he declares his retirement.

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:14 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What happen to Bernie Sanders?


Potential scenario, he declares his retirement.


That won't be until '24 at the earliest. He just won re-election, remember.
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Postby Hediacrana » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:36 am

Valrifell wrote:
Hediacrana wrote:Bit of a shame Beto is not in the options -- I mean, he would not be my favoured candidate, and I get that he doesn't meet the criteria of this poll, but for better or worse, chances of him not running frankly seem pretty low to me at this point, and I bet results would look look quite different if he was in there.


He's been pretty adamant about not running in every single interview he's been asked and hasn't taken any steps to prepare for such a campaign. Unlike, say, Warren or Booker who have essentially declared their intention months ago and just didn't voice it yet.

Well, he was much less adamant once the midterms were over. I think it's pretty clear that at this point he's just waiting for the right moment to declare he's running.
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Postby Ngelmish » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:51 pm

Godular wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
He's been pretty adamant about not running in every single interview he's been asked and hasn't taken any steps to prepare for such a campaign. Unlike, say, Warren or Booker who have essentially declared their intention months ago and just didn't voice it yet.


He'd be a good veep choice, at the very least.


A good veep choice is someone who would be a good first choice for president in themselves. The politics of an O'Rourke veep slot may be good, depending on the nominee, but he'd be an average at best choice as veep.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:07 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Well we all know that socialists are better in bed than conservatives. ;)

Socialists tend to be balanced, emotionally suppressed, yet creative, and conservatives dominant but boring.

...We're talking about politics right?


A person's political stance tends to not matter much in bed.

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:09 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Socialists tend to be balanced, emotionally suppressed, yet creative, and conservatives dominant but boring.

...We're talking about politics right?


A person's political stance tends to not matter much in bed.


That's what you think. If someone's frigid in politics, they'll be frigid in other aspects.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:13 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
A person's political stance tends to not matter much in bed.


That's what you think. If someone's frigid in politics, they'll be frigid in other aspects.


Centrists make the best bedfellows then, they're adaptable!

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:30 pm

Ism wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
She's trying to describe a progressive income tax, which we already have, but I assume she would make more... progressive.


Sounds more like she's suggesting some sort of graduated tax system.

Which you already have. She's describing tax brackets, but conservatives are seeing "70%" and losing their minds.

ETA: Well, some are losing their minds. Some are just lying.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:31 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
That's what you think. If someone's frigid in politics, they'll be frigid in other aspects.


Centrists make the best bedfellows then, they're adaptable!

Or, alternatively, they can't commit to anything, so they suck.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:32 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ism wrote:
Sounds more like she's suggesting some sort of graduated tax system.

Which you already have. She's describing tax brackets, but conservatives are seeing "70%" and losing their minds.


They have clearly never heard of Huey Pierce Long then, the man who wanted 100% tax rates on excess wealth

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:52 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What happen to Bernie Sanders?


Last I heard he might come in to the race.

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Postby ShakaZuli » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:58 am

Thermodolia wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:Abolish diversity quotas or at least for quotas to include whites, more government funding for white communities, less mass immigration or at least allow mass migration from Eastern Europe, protecting the white christian majority, harsher punishemts for anti-white hate crimes... this is some from top of my head.

So white supremacy. Ya fuck that

I really don`t see how this policies negatively affect minorities in USA. If whites serving their own interest is supremacy so is Jewish/Latino/Black supremacy as well when minorities do it. There is a black congresional caucus in the Congress why shouldn`t whites have also their own european congressional caucus?
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Postby Phoenicaea » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:17 am

Shrillland wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
A person's political stance tends to not matter much in bed.


That's what you think. If someone's frigid in politics, they'll be frigid in other aspects.


true, I would say it so.

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Postby Greater Galactic Protectorate » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:51 am

I'm utterly, UTTERLY disappointed that Kanye West ain't running for 2020.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:56 am

Greater Galactic Protectorate wrote:I'm utterly, UTTERLY disappointed that Kanye West ain't running for 2020.

If it ever gets to the point, where Kanye fucking West, or Ye or whatever that fuckwit calls himself. Actually runs for president, your country deserves to be annexed by Canada for a full presidential term as punishment.
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Postby Greater Galactic Protectorate » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:09 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Greater Galactic Protectorate wrote:I'm utterly, UTTERLY disappointed that Kanye West ain't running for 2020.

If it ever gets to the point, where Kanye fucking West, or Ye or whatever that fuckwit calls himself. Actually runs for president, your country deserves to be annexed by Canada for a full presidential term as punishment.

Oh, he's going to run for president in 2024, So either way, it's going to be death from overdose of alcohol or maple syrup.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:16 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Greater Galactic Protectorate wrote:I'm utterly, UTTERLY disappointed that Kanye West ain't running for 2020.

If it ever gets to the point, where Kanye fucking West, or Ye or whatever that fuckwit calls himself. Actually runs for president, your country deserves to be annexed by Canada for a full presidential term as punishment.


The man who unironically believes that he is God?

Fucking lol

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Postby Xmara » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:07 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Greater Galactic Protectorate wrote:I'm utterly, UTTERLY disappointed that Kanye West ain't running for 2020.

If it ever gets to the point, where Kanye fucking West, or Ye or whatever that fuckwit calls himself. Actually runs for president, your country deserves to be annexed by Canada for a full presidential term as punishment.


If Ye does win, I would actually be happy with the US being annexed to Canada.
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Postby Knockturn Alley » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:18 am

Its a very difficult choice, not just between Warren and Trump but between Democrats and Republicans. That being said I would probably support either Trump or a third party for 3 main reasons:

Antisemitism is more mainstream among Democrats than Republicans (Rashida Tlaib and Omar)
Democrat majority will be much more radical and authoritarian than Republican majority
New wave of Democrats will promote socialist agendas (AoC who's economically ignorant)
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