2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Dresderstan]

And this is why I hate FPTP and even democracy itself.

Yeah because how dare the person with the most votes win. Land areas should matter more that's much fairer. Elections in your state last year weren't fair because your candidate got more land area but less votes but somehow its fair that Republicans kept the legislature despite getting less votes.

I agree the voting system could be changed and probably should be but to say you hate democracy is scary.

Tyranny by majority and mob rule is not a democracy, it's a sham.

Not my fault democracy is shit, and you fearmongering only makes me hate it more, so do yourself a favor and shut up for once.

[San Lumen]

As if they didnt have the option before ol' Garland?

Are you implying that endless political escalation should be incentivized? Or merely that you don't particularly care if it is?

Keep in mind this is someone who called for the peaceful transfer of power in their state to not be respected last year because they didnt like who won the statewide elections

[Telconi]

As if they didnt have the option before ol' Garland?

Are you implying that endless political escalation should be incentivized? Or merely that you don't particularly care if it is?

The former.

[San Lumen]

Yeah because how dare the person with the most votes win. Land areas should matter more that's much fairer. Elections in your state last year weren't fair because your candidate got more land area but less votes but somehow its fair that Republicans kept the legislature despite getting less votes.

I agree the voting system could be changed and probably should be but to say you hate democracy is scary.

Tyranny by majority and mob rule is not a democracy, it's a sham.

Not my fault democracy is shit, and you fearmongering only makes me hate it more, so do yourself a favor and shut up for once.

How is it tyranny by majority the person with most votes winning? And how is it mob rule?

How am I fear mongering? You called the election unfair because land area didnt decide who won. Your words not mine.

what would you replace it with?

[Ngelmish]

Are you implying that endless political escalation should be incentivized? Or merely that you don't particularly care if it is?

The former.

Odd flex for a self-proclaimed liberty guy, but okay

[Dresderstan]

Tyranny by majority and mob rule is not a democracy, it's a sham.

Not my fault democracy is shit, and you fearmongering only makes me hate it more, so do yourself a favor and shut up for once.

How is it tyranny by majority the person with most votes winning? And how is it mob rule?

How am I fear mongering? You called the election unfair because land area didnt decide who won. Your words not mine.

what would you replace it with?

Of course more idiotic ignorance from you, refusing to actually listen to our concerns and problems about democracy because, maybe look in the mirror why don't you, you hypocrite.

[San Lumen]

How is it tyranny by majority the person with most votes winning? And how is it mob rule?

How am I fear mongering? You called the election unfair because land area didnt decide who won. Your words not mine.

what would you replace it with?

Of course more idiotic ignorance from you, refusing to actually listen to our concerns and problems about democracy because, maybe look in the mirror why don't you, you hypocrite.

Wheres the ignorance? Whats your issue with it and what would you replace it with?

Why is it so awful the person with most votes win? I bet no matter how the system was fixed you'd still complain if your candidate or party lost. You simply want a system where you can never lose.

[Telconi]

Tyranny by majority and mob rule is not a democracy, it's a sham.

Not my fault democracy is shit, and you fearmongering only makes me hate it more, so do yourself a favor and shut up for once.

How is it tyranny by majority the person with most votes winning? And how is it mob rule?

How am I fear mongering? You called the election unfair because land area didnt decide who won. Your words not mine.

what would you replace it with?

That's literally what tyranny of the majority is, the more popular person wins and then subjugates the minority.

[Telconi]

The former.

Odd flex for a self-proclaimed liberty guy, but okay

Promoting liberty is bad for a "self proclaimed liberty guy"? Uh, okay...

[San Lumen]

How is it tyranny by majority the person with most votes winning? And how is it mob rule?

How am I fear mongering? You called the election unfair because land area didnt decide who won. Your words not mine.

what would you replace it with?

That's literally what tyranny of the majority is, the more popular person wins and then subjugates the minority.

What would you have the minority has more power than the majority?

[Telconi]

Of course more idiotic ignorance from you, refusing to actually listen to our concerns and problems about democracy because, maybe look in the mirror why don't you, you hypocrite.

Wheres the ignorance? Whats your issue with it and what would you replace it with?

Why is it so awful the person with most votes win? I bet no matter how the system was fixed you'd still complain if your candidate or party lost. You simply want a system where you can never lose.

On the contrary, I want a system where losing is tenable.

[San Lumen]

Wheres the ignorance? Whats your issue with it and what would you replace it with?

Why is it so awful the person with most votes win? I bet no matter how the system was fixed you'd still complain if your candidate or party lost. You simply want a system where you can never lose.

On the contrary, I want a system where losing is tenable.

explain

[Ngelmish]

Odd flex for a self-proclaimed liberty guy, but okay

Promoting liberty is bad for a "self proclaimed liberty guy"? Uh, okay...

Escalating the erosion of political norms has a track record just as long, if not longer, of restricting liberties than the other way around.

[Telconi]

On the contrary, I want a system where losing is tenable.

explain

A democracy in which the citizenry fear losing is inherently unstable.

[Telconi]

Promoting liberty is bad for a "self proclaimed liberty guy"? Uh, okay...

Escalating the erosion of political norms has a track record just as long, if not longer, of restricting liberties than the other way around.

Debatable.

[Dresderstan]

Of course more idiotic ignorance from you, refusing to actually listen to our concerns and problems about democracy because, maybe look in the mirror why don't you, you hypocrite.

Wheres the ignorance? Whats your issue with it and what would you replace it with?

Why is it so awful the person with most votes win? I bet no matter how the system was fixed you'd still complain if your candidate or party lost. You simply want a system where you can never lose.

And I and many have told your several times, that's YOUR ignorance, YOU refuse to listen, all you do is deflect, deflect, deflect. Why should I keep repeating the same things to a broken record like you, I'd have a better time talking to a wall than to you, at least it doesn't talk back and act like an ignorant buffoon.

Maybe if you actually listened instead of acting stupid and deflecting everything, you'd actually realize why some of us hate democracy and want actual real change, but status quo establishment types like you are a stain on everything, you refuse to give up YOUR power because admit it, you hate change when it doesn't go your way.

[San Lumen]

explain

A democracy in which the citizenry fear losing is inherently unstable.

You never change. You keep repeating the mantra that everyone is out to get you and its all some mass conspiracy against you. How dare anyone have a different opinion than you or vote different from you.


How awful that New Castle County in Delaware which is nearly 60 percent of the state population will decide the gubernatorial election and control of the state legislature next year. The two other counties which dont even come close to it in population should be able to overrule to majority.

[San Lumen]

Wheres the ignorance? Whats your issue with it and what would you replace it with?

Why is it so awful the person with most votes win? I bet no matter how the system was fixed you'd still complain if your candidate or party lost. You simply want a system where you can never lose.

And I and many have told your several times, that's YOUR ignorance, YOU refuse to listen, all you do is deflect, deflect, deflect. Why should I keep repeating the same things to a broken record like you, I'd have a better time talking to a wall than to you, at least it doesn't talk back and act like an ignorant buffoon.

Maybe if you actually listened instead of acting stupid and deflecting everything, you'd actually realize why some of us hate democracy and want actual real change, but status quo establishment types like you are a stain on everything, you refuse to give up YOUR power because admit it, you hate change when it doesn't go your way.

How would you fix it then? Im listening.

[Dresderstan]

A democracy in which the citizenry fear losing is inherently unstable.

You never change. You keep repeating the mantra that everyone is out to get you and its all some mass conspiracy against you. How dare anyone have a different opinion than you or vote different from you.


How awful that New Castle County in Delaware which is nearly 60 percent of the state population will decide the gubernatorial election and control of the state legislature next year. The two other counties which dont even come close to it in population should be able to overrule to majority.

Neither do you, you hypocrite, look in the mirror, you're a left wing version of Tel.

[Ngelmish]

Escalating the erosion of political norms has a track record just as long, if not longer, of restricting liberties than the other way around.

Debatable.

Not really. What is debatable is what the outcome would be in the contemporary American political landscape, and I don't know that it's as slanted in favor of your policies as you seem to think

[Washington Resistance Army]

Debatable.

Not really. What is debatable is what the outcome would be in the contemporary American political landscape, and I don't know that it's as slanted in favor of your policies as you seem to think

Does it even really matter anymore? Non compliance with the other sides ideas up to and including by law enforcement officials is rapidly becoming the norm.

[San Lumen]

You never change. You keep repeating the mantra that everyone is out to get you and its all some mass conspiracy against you. How dare anyone have a different opinion than you or vote different from you.


How awful that New Castle County in Delaware which is nearly 60 percent of the state population will decide the gubernatorial election and control of the state legislature next year. The two other counties which dont even come close to it in population should be able to overrule to majority.

Neither do you, you hypocrite, look in the mirror, you're a left wing version of Tel.

How would you change the system? Im listening. Give your solution for statewide elections and legislative ones as well as local.

[Telconi]

A democracy in which the citizenry fear losing is inherently unstable.

You never change. You keep repeating the mantra that everyone is out to get you and its all some mass conspiracy against you. How dare anyone have a different opinion than you or vote different from you.


How awful that New Castle County in Delaware which is nearly 60 percent of the state population will decide the gubernatorial election and control of the state legislature next year. The two other counties which dont even come close to it in population should be able to overrule to majority.

Remember this little gem?

Politics isnt a spectator sport it has real world consequences.

[Telconi]

Debatable.

Not really. What is debatable is what the outcome would be in the contemporary American political landscape, and I don't know that it's as slanted in favor of your policies as you seem to think

I don't think it's slantednin favor of my policies. But the current situation is certainly slanted against them, I dont see the harm in rolling the dice.

[San Lumen]

You never change. You keep repeating the mantra that everyone is out to get you and its all some mass conspiracy against you. How dare anyone have a different opinion than you or vote different from you.


How awful that New Castle County in Delaware which is nearly 60 percent of the state population will decide the gubernatorial election and control of the state legislature next year. The two other counties which dont even come close to it in population should be able to overrule to majority.

Remember this little gem?

Politics isnt a spectator sport it has real world consequences.

I am aware of what I said but you need to drop the mantra that somehow everyone is out to get you in some mass conspiracy and accept that people vote differently and have different views than you.