2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[The Black Forrest]

Problem ace. You forgot to mention those VIPS already get 40% of national income (probably more since donnie and the repubs were running things).

They can afford the "hit"

How is affordability measured?

Is shopping at 24/7 instead of Costco any more of an unacceptable affordability downgrade than going from Armani to Zara?

*shrugs* You being cheap is not the same as can't afford it.

[Oil exporting People]

As an objective analysis, the Dems better hope they don't run on this:

“But once you get to, like, the tippy tops, on your 10 millionth dollar, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 or 70 percent. That doesn’t mean all $10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate, but it means that as you climb up this ladder you should be contributing more.”

[Valrifell]

As an objective analysis, the Dems better hope they don't run on this:

“But once you get to, like, the tippy tops, on your 10 millionth dollar, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 or 70 percent. That doesn’t mean all $10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate, but it means that as you climb up this ladder you should be contributing more.”

She's trying to describe a progressive income tax, which we already have, but I assume she would make more... progressive.

[Oil exporting People]

As an objective analysis, the Dems better hope they don't run on this:

She's trying to describe a progressive income tax, which we already have, but I assume she would make more... progressive.

For one, she shows here she doesn't understand how taxes work: That doesn’t mean all $10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate

Next, France tried something like this a few years ago and experienced a capital flight. I'm all for getting tough on the upper classes, but we have to be smart about it.

[Telconi]

As an objective analysis, the Dems better hope they don't run on this:

She's trying to describe a progressive income tax, which we already have, but I assume she would make more... progressive.

I like how she insists they must "pay their fair share" as if billionaires have somehow bamboozled the government into letting thme get away with paying the highest tax rates already.

[Ngelmish]

She's trying to describe a progressive income tax, which we already have, but I assume she would make more... progressive.

I like how she insists they must "pay their fair share" as if billionaires have somehow bamboozled the government into letting thme get away with paying the highest tax rates already.

I mean, you might have a point if economies of scale weren't a thing. But since they are, and you're not establishing alternate parameters, it's equally vacuous at best.

[Ism]

As an objective analysis, the Dems better hope they don't run on this:

She's trying to describe a progressive income tax, which we already have, but I assume she would make more... progressive.

Sounds more like she's suggesting some sort of graduated tax system.

[Major-Tom]

175 total votes and not a single one for Delaney.

Delaney should take note from the "NSG Caucus," and alert potential donors immediately.

[MERIZoC]

175 total votes and not a single one for Delaney.

Delaney should take note from the "NSG Caucus," and alert potential donors immediately.

shut up

[Major-Tom]

175 total votes and not a single one for Delaney.

Delaney should take note from the "NSG Caucus," and alert potential donors immediately.

shut up

Lmao, well played.

[Myrensis]

She's trying to describe a progressive income tax, which we already have, but I assume she would make more... progressive.

I like how she insists they must "pay their fair share" as if billionaires have somehow bamboozled the government into letting thme get away with paying the highest tax rates already.

Yes, those poor billionaires, being crushed under their historically low tax rates. Less 'bamboozled' and more 'bribed'.

At this rate Ocasio-Cortez is going to join the ranks of those radical communists like Nixon and Eisenhower who had 70-90% top marginal tax rates and still somehow managed to avoid total economic collapse.

I mean, the 'Green New Deal' is awful in multiple ways, but it's always funny to hear the "How can poor people claim they're struggling when they have indoor plumbing and refrigerators!" crowd wail about how we're practically stealing food from the mouths of billionaires children by suggesting a higher tax rate on their 20th or 30th million of the year.

Sadly of course we've managed to convince too many people that they're just temporarily inconvenienced billionaires, so even if they're only making 30k a year they should be fighting tooth and nail to protect that 30th million for the other guys, because any day now when they catch their big break it's totally going to pay off for them!

[Kowani]

I like how she insists they must "pay their fair share" as if billionaires have somehow bamboozled the government into letting thme get away with paying the highest tax rates already.

Yes, those poor billionaires, being crushed under their historically low tax rates. Less 'bamboozled' and more 'bribed'.

At this rate Ocasio-Cortez is going to join the ranks of those radical communists like Nixon and Eisenhower who had 70-90% top marginal tax rates and still somehow managed to avoid total economic collapse.

I mean, the 'Green New Deal' is awful in multiple ways, but it's always funny to hear the "How can poor people claim they're struggling when they have indoor plumbing and refrigerators!" crowd wail about how we're practically stealing food from the mouths of billionaires children by suggesting a higher tax rate on their 20th or 30th million of the year.

Sadly of course we've managed to convince too many people that they're just temporarily inconvenienced billionaires, so even if they're only making 30k a year they should be fighting tooth and nail to protect that 30th million for the other guys, because any day now when they catch their big break it's totally going to pay off for them!

Don’t remind people of history, bringing facts to a tax rate debate is like bringing the Vedas to the Inquisition.

[New haven america]

175 total votes and not a single one for Delaney.

Delaney should take note from the "NSG Caucus," and alert potential donors immediately.

You ruined it.

[New haven america]

Yes, those poor billionaires, being crushed under their historically low tax rates. Less 'bamboozled' and more 'bribed'.

At this rate Ocasio-Cortez is going to join the ranks of those radical communists like Nixon and Eisenhower who had 70-90% top marginal tax rates and still somehow managed to avoid total economic collapse.

I mean, the 'Green New Deal' is awful in multiple ways, but it's always funny to hear the "How can poor people claim they're struggling when they have indoor plumbing and refrigerators!" crowd wail about how we're practically stealing food from the mouths of billionaires children by suggesting a higher tax rate on their 20th or 30th million of the year.

Sadly of course we've managed to convince too many people that they're just temporarily inconvenienced billionaires, so even if they're only making 30k a year they should be fighting tooth and nail to protect that 30th million for the other guys, because any day now when they catch their big break it's totally going to pay off for them!

Don’t remind people of history, bringing facts to a tax rate debate is like bringing the Vedas to the Inquisition.

Really, as long as the ideas that taxes are theft and that billionaires are the oppressed class exist, then there most likely will never be a decent tax debate.

[ShakaZuli]

As a white male I couldn`t vote for any Democrats in near future. The policies of the Democratic Party does not offer anything usefull to my people and who belongs to my demographics. As such there is no other solution but to to vote Trump again athough he has many flaws.

[Cannot think of a name]

As a white male I couldn`t vote for any Democrats in near future. The policies of the Democratic Party does not offer anything usefull to my people and who belongs to my demographics. As such there is no other solution but to to vote Trump again athough he has many flaws.

Nothing to offer anything useful to your people? What’s that supposed to look like, specifically?

[ShakaZuli]

As a white male I couldn`t vote for any Democrats in near future. The policies of the Democratic Party does not offer anything usefull to my people and who belongs to my demographics. As such there is no other solution but to to vote Trump again athough he has many flaws.

Nothing to offer anything useful to your people? What’s that supposed to look like, specifically?

Abolish diversity quotas or at least for quotas to include whites, more government funding for white communities, less mass immigration or at least allow mass migration from Eastern Europe, protecting the white christian majority, harsher punishemts for anti-white hate crimes... this is some from top of my head.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

... this is some from top of my head.

Are you sure about that?

[ShakaZuli]

... this is some from top of my head.

Are you sure about that?

Yes, there is some more. This is just some one of few that commes from my mind.

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As a white male I couldn`t vote for any Democrats in near future. The policies of the Democratic Party does not offer anything usefull to my people and who belongs to my demographics. As such there is no other solution but to to vote Trump again athough he has many flaws.

As a white male myself I would like to ask what exactly do you think the Republicans have done for us?

They aren't giving us affordable healthcare. They aren't giving us a living wage. They aren't giving any upward mobility to all the white guys at the bottom of the ladder. They aren't giving us anything of tangible value at all, unless you're a millionaire.

What exactly do Trump and the Republicans offer?

[ShakaZuli]

As a white male I couldn`t vote for any Democrats in near future. The policies of the Democratic Party does not offer anything usefull to my people and who belongs to my demographics. As such there is no other solution but to to vote Trump again athough he has many flaws.

As a white male myself I would like to ask what exactly do you think the Republicans have done for us?

They aren't giving us affordable healthcare. They aren't giving us a living wage. They aren't giving any upward mobility to all the white guys at the bottom of the ladder. They aren't giving us anything of tangible value at all, unless you're a millionaire.

What exactly do Trump and the Republicans offer?

From him nothing. I hoped he could at least build the wall but it seems there will be nothing of that wall. That again I could not vote for Hillary as she was openly anti-white and anti-male; she would have push for intervention wars like Obama that favors Israel. Trump seemed like a lesser evil than Hillary.

[Cannot think of a name]

Nothing to offer anything useful to your people? What’s that supposed to look like, specifically?

Abolish diversity quotas or at least for quotas to include whites, more government funding for white communities, less mass immigration or at least allow mass migration from Eastern Europe, protecting the white christian majority, harsher punishemts for anti-white hate crimes... this is some from top of my head.

Well, that didn’t disappoint.

[New haven america]

Abolish diversity quotas or at least for quotas to include whites, more government funding for white communities, less mass immigration or at least allow mass migration from Eastern Europe, protecting the white christian majority, harsher punishemts for anti-white hate crimes... this is some from top of my head.

Well, that didn’t disappoint.

Disappointed me.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Abolish diversity quotas or at least for quotas to include whites, more government funding for white communities, less mass immigration or at least allow mass migration from Eastern Europe, protecting the white christian majority, harsher punishemts for anti-white hate crimes... this is some from top of my head.

Well, that didn’t disappoint.

Eh, I agree with abolishing diversity quotas (anti-discrimination measures will do) and tighter control on the immigration system, but otherwise...

His suggestions are bloody awful.

[New haven america]

Well, that didn’t disappoint.

Eh, I agree with abolishing diversity quotas (anti-discrimination measures will do) and tighter control on the immigration system, but otherwise...

His suggestions are bloody awful.

The US already has one of the harshest immigrations systems on the planet.

It can't get any tighter (Other than completely closing down the US' borders and not letting anyone in).