2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Northern Davincia]

Yes, 4 years after launching an investigation into real estate deals Clinton was involved in the 70's and 80's, Starr finally 'nailed' him and Republicans rushed to impeach because he...lied about having an affair with an intern in the 90's.

My advice is to not lie under oath if you want to stay in office.

[South Odreria]

If anyone here supports Gillibrand:

WHY?

Just curious.

She is going hard for the #resistance twitter troll crowd.

[Northern Davincia]

Bernie is the left's Ron Paul but far less intelligent.

People you disagree with aren't stupid.

No, but there are such things as economic illiterates.

[Mystic Warriors]

Funny the right thinks Trump is a slam dunk winner. The Russia thing wasn't the only reason he is hated.

[Northern Davincia]

Funny the right thinks Trump is a slam dunk winner. The Russia thing wasn't the only reason he is hated.

His odds will improve because of this.

[Hediacrana]

Funny the right thinks Trump is a slam dunk winner. The Russia thing wasn't the only reason he is hated.

isn't.

[Cannot think of a name]

If anyone here supports Gillibrand:

WHY?

Just curious.

She has a vagina.

That's about it.

This comic book style reductivism would work better if there weren't several women running. You're gonna have to start writing new material.

[Valrifell]

People you disagree with aren't stupid.

No, but there are such things as economic illiterates.

There are also competing economic schools of thought, not exactly a hard science with only one correct orthodoxy.

[Seangoli]

Yes, 4 years after launching an investigation into real estate deals Clinton was involved in the 70's and 80's, Starr finally 'nailed' him and Republicans rushed to impeach because he...lied about having an affair with an intern in the 90's.

My advice is to not lie under oath if you want to stay in office.

Welp, tell that to the Trump folks who gor charged with the same.

[Big Jim P]

Funny the right thinks Trump is a slam dunk winner. The Russia thing wasn't the only reason he is hated.

Indeed. He stopped hillary getting into the white house. A lot of people hate him for that. Anyone in their right minds however thinks this alone makes him great.

[Valrifell]

Funny the right thinks Trump is a slam dunk winner. The Russia thing wasn't the only reason he is hated.

Indeed. He stopped hillary getting into the white house. A lot of people hate him for that. Anyone in their right minds however thinks this alone makes him great.

Imagine drinking this much kool-aid.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

No, but there are such things as economic illiterates.

There are also competing economic schools of thought, not exactly a hard science with only one correct orthodoxy.

The fact that Keynesians and Austrians debate over the role of government in the economy does not suddenly justify ridiculous policies such as the NGD, those who support it and other reforms that spit upon the essential conjectures of economic thought are indeed economic illiterates...

[Big Jim P]

Indeed. He stopped hillary getting into the white house. A lot of people hate him for that. Anyone in their right minds however thinks this alone makes him great.

Imagine drinking this much kool-aid.

Imagine hillary in the white house.

[Valrifell]

There are also competing economic schools of thought, not exactly a hard science with only one correct orthodoxy.

The fact that Keynesians and Austrians debate over the role of government in the economy does not suddenly justify ridiculous policies such as the NGD, those who support it and other reforms that spit upon the essential conjectures of economic thought are indeed economic illiterates...

NGD?

[North German Realm]

Imagine drinking this much kool-aid.

Imagine hillary in the white house.

Eh. It would be only slightly better than Trump in the white house.

[Big Jim P]

Imagine hillary in the white house.

Eh. It would be only slightly better than Trump in the white house.

Far worse. The only thing she could have done is make obama look less bad.

[Neutraligon]

Eh. It would be only slightly better than Trump in the white house.

Far worse. The only thing she could have done is make obama look less bad.

Since Obama looked pretty good, are you saying that she would make Obama look great while she was only mediocre. Better mediocre then shit like Trump has been.

[Telconi]

Far worse. The only thing she could have done is make obama look less bad.

Since Obama looked pretty good, are you saying that she would make Obama look great while she was only mediocre. Better mediocre then shit like Trump has been.

>Obama looked pretty good.

Oh boy.

[North German Realm]

Eh. It would be only slightly better than Trump in the white house.

Far worse. The only thing she could have done is make obama look less bad.

Obama's been the best president of this Century in the US though. I mean, that's not much of a competition given what he succeeded and what succeeded him but, you know.

[Indo-Malaysia]

So when are they abolishing the electoral committee and making the popular vote the sole method of election?

[Valrifell]

Since Obama looked pretty good, are you saying that she would make Obama look great while she was only mediocre. Better mediocre then shit like Trump has been.

>Obama looked pretty good.

Oh boy.

Hard to accept your views aren't the majority or mainstream, I know.

[Australian rePublic]

I can't vote but I can speculate. I reacon Donald Trump would win

[Myrensis]

So when are they abolishing the electoral committee and making the popular vote the sole method of election?

Sadly Republicans believe that square footage of empty space is more important than actual people.

And since there are people in their 30's now who can't remember a Republican President who actually won the White House with the popular vote, that's not likely to change anytime soon.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

So when are they abolishing the electoral committee and making the popular vote the sole method of election?

Sadly Republicans believe that square footage of empty space is more important than actual people.

And since there are people in their 30's now who can't remember a Republican President who actually won the White House with the popular vote, that's not likely to change anytime soon.

>insert 2004 election

Regardless, its not a matter of empty space vs people... its a matter of those few who live in that empty space being dominated by those in the cities which trend wildly more liberal/progrssive.... The founding fathers gave the right for the state, not explicitly the people, to elect the president because they recognized the threat that direct democracy and tyranny of the majority would have on those within the dissenting opinion...

The key fact of the matter is that we are not a democracy, we are a representative republic in which the states are given an equal playing field to one another in politics despite population size (hence why our legislator has a senate and a house and not just the house).

"A popular election in this case is radically vicious. The ignorance of the people would put it in the power of some one set of men dispersed through the Union, and acting in concert, to delude them into any appointment." — Delegate Gerry, July 25, 1787

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Sadly Republicans believe that square footage of empty space is more important than actual people.

And since there are people in their 30's now who can't remember a Republican President who actually won the White House with the popular vote, that's not likely to change anytime soon.

>insert 2004 election

Regardless, its not a matter of empty space vs people... its a matter of those few who live in that empty space being dominated by those in the cities which trend wildly more liberal/progrssive.... The founding fathers gave the right for the state, not explicitly the people, to elect the president because they recognized the threat that direct democracy and tyranny of the majority would have on those within the dissenting opinion...

The key fact of the matter is that we are not a democracy, we are a representative republic in which the states are given an equal playing field to one another in politics despite population size (hence why our legislator has a senate and a house and not just the house).

"A popular election in this case is radically vicious. The ignorance of the people would put it in the power of some one set of men dispersed through the Union, and acting in concert, to delude them into any appointment." — Delegate Gerry, July 25, 1787

The Electoral College was not designed with rural areas in mind, nor did it have anything to do with preventing tyranny of the majority. It was part of a compromise to get states with low citizen populations but high slave populations to ratify the Constitution. The 3/5th Compromise offered slave states more representation in Congress than they would have had if only their citizen population was counted, but these states also wanted the same compromise to give them more influence over the Presidency; therefore the Electoral College was created. If slavery didn't exist in the early days of the United States, or if slavery did exist but there was no 3/5th Compromise, there would be no Electoral College.

The Electoral College is a vestige of slavery. It had nothing to do with balancing rural vs. urban areas; it was about offering slave states incentive to ratify the Constitution.