2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Big Jim P]

And just like the Republicans did to Obama.

What they did to Obama was disgraceful.

What obama did to the country was disgraceful.

[San Carlos Islands]

Where's #YangGang on the poll? I want my $1000 Cash Freedom Dividend due to automation to buy computer games.

[Valrifell]

I actually had an interesting talk with someone the other day and he raised some good points that, depending on the actions taken during the primary, Biden might actually not be a super guaranteed win. If Biden pushes too far to the left to try and win over the younger progressive wing during the primaries it could seriously haunt him into the general and alienate much needed older Dem voters in places like the Rust Belt.

CNN ran a piece that was somewhat similar the other night where they talked to older voters in that same region and they were seemingly all against the AOC style super progressive types and more in favor of Trump if it came down to it.

Friendly reminder that Americans aren't policy wonks and most of their issues with politicians is tonal and superficial. Of course, the base and the activists within the party need policy to placate them, but so long as Biden can manage to keep his campy uncle vibe going, then he'll be fine.

Of course I have my doubts that he'll actually win the primary, but we'll see.

[North Libya]

Trying to jump into the debate, but wouldn't the voting system like the Ranked Choice in Maine work best? It makes voting easier in my opinion.

Absolutely. Australia's had it for 100 years and they don't complain.

*thumbs up*

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I actually had an interesting talk with someone the other day and he raised some good points that, depending on the actions taken during the primary, Biden might actually not be a super guaranteed win. If Biden pushes too far to the left to try and win over the younger progressive wing during the primaries it could seriously haunt him into the general and alienate much needed older Dem voters in places like the Rust Belt.

CNN ran a piece that was somewhat similar the other night where they talked to older voters in that same region and they were seemingly all against the AOC style super progressive types and more in favor of Trump if it came down to it.

Friendly reminder that Americans aren't policy wonks and most of their issues with politicians is tonal and superficial. Of course, the base and the activists within the party need policy to placate them, but so long as Biden can manage to keep his campy uncle vibe going, then he'll be fine.

Of course I have my doubts that he'll actually win the primary, but we'll see.

You do realize that the Reps can counter Biden’s cheery uncle personality with the creepy uncle stereotype, right?

[Valrifell]

Friendly reminder that Americans aren't policy wonks and most of their issues with politicians is tonal and superficial. Of course, the base and the activists within the party need policy to placate them, but so long as Biden can manage to keep his campy uncle vibe going, then he'll be fine.

Of course I have my doubts that he'll actually win the primary, but we'll see.

You do realize that the Reps can counter Biden’s cheery uncle personality with the creepy uncle stereotype, right?

Yes, but that wasn't the point of that post.

[Telconi]

Implying any Dem candidate has Reagan's potential.

-Bernie(Left Wing Reagan, he even lost to Clinton the way Reagan lost to Ford)
-Biden(Debatable though, I admit)


And you can be assured either of those will win.

Bernie is left Reagan? Where are all the Bernie Republicans? Fuck man, where are all the Bernie Democrats?

[Telconi]

You do realize that the Reps can counter Biden’s cheery uncle personality with the creepy uncle stereotype, right?

Yes, but that wasn't the point of that post.

The point was that Biden is likable. He isn't to many people.

[Valrifell]

Yes, but that wasn't the point of that post.

The point was that Biden is likable. He isn't to many people.

The point was that Biden's policy positions won't make or break his candidacy, which is being reinforced by your and WVC objections to my statements.

[Telconi]

The point was that Biden is likable. He isn't to many people.

The point was that Biden's policy positions won't make or break his candidacy, which is being reinforced by your and WVC objections to my statements.

Maybe. Maybe not. I think people are becoming more policy aware these days.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

The point was that Biden's policy positions won't make or break his candidacy, which is being reinforced by your and WVC objections to my statements.

Maybe. Maybe not. I think people are becoming more policy aware these days.

Hopefully, the smiling oilman politics are frankly getting overused to the goddamn bone.

[South Odreria]

-Bernie(Left Wing Reagan, he even lost to Clinton the way Reagan lost to Ford)
-Biden(Debatable though, I admit)


And you can be assured either of those will win.

Bernie has integrity, I'm afraid.

[Northern Davincia]

-Bernie(Left Wing Reagan, he even lost to Clinton the way Reagan lost to Ford)
-Biden(Debatable though, I admit)


And you can be assured either of those will win.

Bernie is left Reagan? Where are all the Bernie Republicans? Fuck man, where are all the Bernie Democrats?

Bernie is the left's Ron Paul but far less intelligent.

[Telconi]

-Bernie(Left Wing Reagan, he even lost to Clinton the way Reagan lost to Ford)
-Biden(Debatable though, I admit)


And you can be assured either of those will win.

Bernie has integrity, I'm afraid.

(X)

[San Carlos Islands]

Bernie is left Reagan? Where are all the Bernie Republicans? Fuck man, where are all the Bernie Democrats?

Bernie is the left's Ron Paul but far less intelligent.

>Ron Paul
>Intelligent
also
>Implying Bernie Sanders has any intelligence

[Valrifell]

Bernie is left Reagan? Where are all the Bernie Republicans? Fuck man, where are all the Bernie Democrats?

Bernie is the left's Ron Paul but far less intelligent.

No, that's Andrew Yang. Though he might just be the new Ron Paul in general.

[Vassenor]

Bernie is the left's Ron Paul but far less intelligent.

>Ron Paul
>Intelligent
also
>Implying Bernie Sanders has any intelligence

#owtheedge

[Valrifell]

Bernie is left Reagan? Where are all the Bernie Republicans? Fuck man, where are all the Bernie Democrats?

Bernie is the left's Ron Paul but far less intelligent.

People you disagree with aren't stupid.

[Telconi]

Bernie is the left's Ron Paul but far less intelligent.

People you disagree with aren't stupid.

Certainly some of them are.

[San Carlos Islands]

>Ron Paul
>Intelligent
also
>Implying Bernie Sanders has any intelligence

#owtheedge

Fuck all the politicians, I can't put my trust in those lads anymore.

[Hardholm]

I will likely vote for Republicans in my state, but at a national level, like the previous election, I will not vote for Donald Trump. I do not believe in a lesser-of-two-evils argument, and only in seeing whether or not an individual passes a personal, ethical litmus test that I pass on them in my mind. If yes, then they can be compared to their peers. I am aware that the American election system does not de facto allow for a third-party victory, and I am more than willing to "throw my vote away" to know that I didn't give my opinion to an individual I find repugnant.

I would vote for a Democrat if I deemed them ethical and they held views similar to mine. Otherwise, I'll likely find a third-party candidate to vote for.

[Valrifell]

People you disagree with aren't stupid.

Certainly some of them are.

Stupid people exist everywhere, I'm sure there's no convincing evidence that directly relates them to ideology.

[South Odreria]

I will likely vote for Republicans in my state, but at a national level, like the previous election, I will not vote for Donald Trump. I do not believe in a lesser-of-two-evils argument, and only in seeing whether or not an individual passes a personal, ethical litmus test that I pass on them in my mind. If yes, then they can be compared to their peers. I am aware that the American election system does not de facto allow for a third-party victory, and I am more than willing to "throw my vote away" to know that I didn't give my opinion to an individual I find repugnant.

I would vote for a Democrat if I deemed them ethical and they held views similar to mine. Otherwise, I'll likely find a third-party candidate to vote for.

As "democracy" is one of your antis, I certainly hope you don't find a democrat with "views similar to yours"

[Hardholm]

I will likely vote for Republicans in my state, but at a national level, like the previous election, I will not vote for Donald Trump. I do not believe in a lesser-of-two-evils argument, and only in seeing whether or not an individual passes a personal, ethical litmus test that I pass on them in my mind. If yes, then they can be compared to their peers. I am aware that the American election system does not de facto allow for a third-party victory, and I am more than willing to "throw my vote away" to know that I didn't give my opinion to an individual I find repugnant.

I would vote for a Democrat if I deemed them ethical and they held views similar to mine. Otherwise, I'll likely find a third-party candidate to vote for.

As "democracy" is one of your antis, I certainly hope you don't find a democrat with "views similar to yours"

Haha, that's fair! So, my anti/pro, etc is more lofty and personal utopia than "The US Political Landscape". I know that politics will never reflect my values to the fullest and so I do play irl within the realm of the reality we have. I'm Anti-Abortion, tend towards Hawkish foreign-policies, tend to be Pro-Welfare Reform, and so on.

A Blue-Dog Democrat might very well receive my attention, but they tend to revolve around the local and state levels. I understand the confusion of my duality though haha.

[Bienenhalde]

I will likely vote for Republicans in my state, but at a national level, like the previous election, I will not vote for Donald Trump. I do not believe in a lesser-of-two-evils argument, and only in seeing whether or not an individual passes a personal, ethical litmus test that I pass on them in my mind. If yes, then they can be compared to their peers. I am aware that the American election system does not de facto allow for a third-party victory, and I am more than willing to "throw my vote away" to know that I didn't give my opinion to an individual I find repugnant.

I would vote for a Democrat if I deemed them ethical and they held views similar to mine. Otherwise, I'll likely find a third-party candidate to vote for.

I must say I completely agree with this. I am fed up with Trump, fed up with the Democrats, and fed up with the two party system.