2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Vassenor]

It's not my fault the hypocrisy from the conservative side is blatant as fuck there.

Suck it up. Hold yourself to the higher standard and stop playing in the fucking mud.

Jesus I am tired of this bullshit.

"Waaah but the right/left/orange man/old woman said mean things to me!!!!"

Okay, and? Be the better person for God's sake. Or wallow in the shit with them if you really want to, but don't be surprised when the smell doesn't wash off so easily.

You know what's funny? There's nothing about mean things being said in that exchange. If you're going to complain that I need new material, maybe try not posting the same scripted spiel over and over again.

[The Feylands]

I did hope Trump would make it last time although I don't quite like his personal style. But I'm not American and perhaps that's what US Conservatism needed? With all the X-tianity everywhere it's not hard to guess why someone less eh... "prude"... doing some hard-ball could be beneficial.

For this round... eh... Idk. I have kinda liked some of the things I've seen of Tulsi Gabbard although it's a pity she's a Democrat and supports abortion etc. (protip as for marriage stuff: why not just take the government out of it - it doesn't have much resemblance to marriage in vedic or biblical times anyway )

But eh... I guess Trump would still be for the best. If nothing else I can't help thinking that Xi Xiansheng might be rather happy about the fact that the guy doing all this anti-China vitriol is someone who is kinda hard to take seriously.

I mean.. imagine "Donald Trump Thought" as a serious political doctrine...

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

I mean.. imagine "Donald Trump Thought" as a serious political doctrine...

It’s called Trumpism, but Trump thought would be a great parody ideology.

[Bienenhalde]

This is being more used as a hypothetical to gauge stuff, but if I ran for President in 2020 and somehow was legally able to, assume I had enough experience for you, who here would vote for me/support me, over all current and current candidates who have expressed interest? I'd like to know why you'd support me as well, and why you'd support certain others more than me if they of the current roster chose to run.

I want to use this more as to gauge something than to actually have yall's support or whatever, considering I can't run until 2036, so treat this as an experiment, of how I-and NSG'ers-stack up against the current roster, in NSG's mind.

Personally, I would be sympathetic to your ideals, but I would say your lack of political experience would be a liability, especially in a crowded field like the one we have right now.

[Bienenhalde]

I did hope Trump would make it last time although I don't quite like his personal style. But I'm not American and perhaps that's what US Conservatism needed? With all the X-tianity everywhere it's not hard to guess why someone less eh... "prude"... doing some hard-ball could be beneficial.

Trump is a wicked, degenerate man, and as a Christian, I think he has done a terrible job as president. It is sad to see the Republican Party abandoning the Christian values that it used to stand for.

[Bear Stearns]

I did hope Trump would make it last time although I don't quite like his personal style. But I'm not American and perhaps that's what US Conservatism needed? With all the X-tianity everywhere it's not hard to guess why someone less eh... "prude"... doing some hard-ball could be beneficial.

For this round... eh... Idk. I have kinda liked some of the things I've seen of Tulsi Gabbard although it's a pity she's a Democrat and supports abortion etc. (protip as for marriage stuff: why not just take the government out of it - it doesn't have much resemblance to marriage in vedic or biblical times anyway )

But eh... I guess Trump would still be for the best. If nothing else I can't help thinking that Xi Xiansheng might be rather happy about the fact that the guy doing all this anti-China vitriol is someone who is kinda hard to take seriously.

I mean.. imagine "Donald Trump Thought" as a serious political doctrine...

I don't like Trump's style either. For a Germanic Protestant he sure acts like a Queens greaseball sometimes. That being said, I think he's what we needed, and at least during the campaign, he got it. Kind of been a let down as president but still better than the alternative.

[Bear Stearns]

I did hope Trump would make it last time although I don't quite like his personal style. But I'm not American and perhaps that's what US Conservatism needed? With all the X-tianity everywhere it's not hard to guess why someone less eh... "prude"... doing some hard-ball could be beneficial.

Trump is a wicked, degenerate man, and as a Christian, I think he has done a terrible job as president. It is sad to see the Republican Party abandoning the Christian values that it used to stand for.

When did it used to stand for Christian values? The Republicans have absolutely caved and lost every fight on social conservatism since the 1980s.

[Aclion]

I did hope Trump would make it last time although I don't quite like his personal style. But I'm not American and perhaps that's what US Conservatism needed? With all the X-tianity everywhere it's not hard to guess why someone less eh... "prude"... doing some hard-ball could be beneficial.

Trump is a wicked, degenerate man, and as a Christian, I think he has done a terrible job as president. It is sad to see the Republican Party abandoning the Christian values that it used to stand for.

Meh. Good riddance. I would like to see them go back to their roots as the party of liberty.

[Vassenor]

Trump is a wicked, degenerate man, and as a Christian, I think he has done a terrible job as president. It is sad to see the Republican Party abandoning the Christian values that it used to stand for.

Meh. Good riddance. I would like to see them go back to their roots as the party of liberty.

Unless you're a woman. Or a homosexual. Or a Muslim.

[Telconi]

Meh. Good riddance. I would like to see them go back to their roots as the party of liberty.

Unless you're a woman. Or a homosexual. Or a Muslim.

Strawmanning people is rude, friend.

[Zurkerx]

Meh. Good riddance. I would like to see them go back to their roots as the party of liberty.

Unless you're a woman. Or a homosexual. Or a Muslim.

I'm pretty sure the poster is referring to the Classical Liberal part of the GOP, which it was at one point a long time ago.

[Conserative Morality]

Unless you're a woman. Or a homosexual. Or a Muslim.

I'm pretty sure the poster is referring to the Classical Liberal part of the GOP, which it was at one point a long time ago.

I don't think we're going to see a return to the pre-Reagan days.

[Len Hyet]

Suck it up. Hold yourself to the higher standard and stop playing in the fucking mud.

Jesus I am tired of this bullshit.

"Waaah but the right/left/orange man/old woman said mean things to me!!!!"

Okay, and? Be the better person for God's sake. Or wallow in the shit with them if you really want to, but don't be surprised when the smell doesn't wash off so easily.

You know what's funny? There's nothing about mean things being said in that exchange. If you're going to complain that I need new material, maybe try not posting the same scripted spiel over and over again.

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Yesterday was the first time I have ever asked people for a higher quality of debate in this way.

I've tried doing it by example, I've tried being a snarky ass, I've never tried just out and out saying it. So what exactly is the issue here? Honest question. No snark. No ulterior motive.

Prove me wrong. Be better.

No one needs your class to graduate.

Never said anyone did. You don't need my approval, my like, my trust, or anything from me. Never said or suggested otherwise.

But I am asking you and everyone else to contribute to a better debate. Maybe I worded it poorly, fine I accept that. I'm human, I make mistakes. I get angry. I use sarcasm as a shortcut. I am wrong sometimes. I am misinformed. I do things the wrong way.

Now I am asking you, and everyone else, to work together for something better. That's it. If I worded it poorly, if I slipped into old bad habits, I can do nothing but sincerely apologize. I am sorry if I came off as condescending and rude. I will fail to live up to my own expectations, that is a given. But this is something worth trying for.

So please. Can we do this? Can we just try?

[Conserative Morality]

You know what's funny? There's nothing about mean things being said in that exchange. If you're going to complain that I need new material, maybe try not posting the same scripted spiel over and over again.

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Yesterday was the first time I have ever asked people for a higher quality of debate in this way.

I've tried doing it by example, I've tried being a snarky ass, I've never tried just out and out saying it. So what exactly is the issue here? Honest question. No snark. No ulterior motive.

No one needs your class to graduate.

Never said anyone did. You don't need my approval, my like, my trust, or anything from me. Never said or suggested otherwise.

But I am asking you and everyone else to contribute to a better debate. Maybe I worded it poorly, fine I accept that. I'm human, I make mistakes. I get angry. I use sarcasm as a shortcut. I am wrong sometimes. I am misinformed. I do things the wrong way.

Now I am asking you, and everyone else, to work together for something better. That's it. If I worded it poorly, if I slipped into old bad habits, I can do nothing but sincerely apologize. I am sorry if I came off as condescending and rude. I will fail to live up to my own expectations, that is a given. But this is something worth trying for.

So please. Can we do this? Can we just try?

Okay but what if we want A C C E L E R A T I O N I S M

[Len Hyet]

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Yesterday was the first time I have ever asked people for a higher quality of debate in this way.

I've tried doing it by example, I've tried being a snarky ass, I've never tried just out and out saying it. So what exactly is the issue here? Honest question. No snark. No ulterior motive.


Never said anyone did. You don't need my approval, my like, my trust, or anything from me. Never said or suggested otherwise.

But I am asking you and everyone else to contribute to a better debate. Maybe I worded it poorly, fine I accept that. I'm human, I make mistakes. I get angry. I use sarcasm as a shortcut. I am wrong sometimes. I am misinformed. I do things the wrong way.

Now I am asking you, and everyone else, to work together for something better. That's it. If I worded it poorly, if I slipped into old bad habits, I can do nothing but sincerely apologize. I am sorry if I came off as condescending and rude. I will fail to live up to my own expectations, that is a given. But this is something worth trying for.

So please. Can we do this? Can we just try?

Okay but what if we want A C C E L E R A T I O N I S M

I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning to completely grasp the joke I'm afraid

[Conserative Morality]

I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning to completely grasp the joke I'm afraid

What if we have no interest in improving debate because we want everything to burn so we can get a clean slate to build Our New Utopia on?

[Len Hyet]

I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning to completely grasp the joke I'm afraid

What if we have no interest in improving debate because we want everything to burn so we can get a clean slate to build Our New Utopia on?

Welp. Guess I'd be SOL in that case. Wouldn't be the first time, doubt it'll be the last.

[Ifreann]

I'm pretty sure the poster is referring to the Classical Liberal part of the GOP, which it was at one point a long time ago.

I don't think we're going to see a return to the pre-Reagan days.

"What if we southern strategy even harder?"

[Zurkerx]

I'm pretty sure the poster is referring to the Classical Liberal part of the GOP, which it was at one point a long time ago.

I don't think we're going to see a return to the pre-Reagan days.

I unfortunately agree with you, unless some random insurgence comes and doesn't get hijack. We'll make a comeback one way or the other

Oh, When you want to pressure the Maduro Regime but are considering not granting immigration relief for 70,000 Venezuelans because the administration didn't provide the same benefit for other nations

Got to love when your policies conflate (if that's the word?) each other.

#genius

[Telconi]

I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning to completely grasp the joke I'm afraid

What if we have no interest in improving debate because we want everything to burn so we can get a clean slate to build Our New Utopia on?

Then you're just a bad person.

[Republic of Penguinian Astronautia]

What if we have no interest in improving debate because we want everything to burn so we can get a clean slate to build Our New Utopia on?

Then you're just a bad person.

Or don't understand the importance of space colonization.

[Valrifell]

Beto O'Rourke keeping his amazing first-day fundraising figures a secret over the weekend to bamboozle the media was both impressive and annoying to watch unfold.

[Telconi]

Beto O'Rourke keeping his amazing first-day fundraising figures a secret over the weekend to bamboozle the media was both impressive and annoying to watch unfold.

To be fair, impressive and annoying is a pretty apt description of O'Rourke.

[Aureumterra]

Beto O'Rourke keeping his amazing first-day fundraising figures a secret over the weekend to bamboozle the media was both impressive and annoying to watch unfold.

Robert Francis O’Rourke is getting grilled by his own side for his St. Patrick’s Day microagression. I’ve said this many times before, but the Social Justice Political Correctness (SJPC) culture is imploding in on itself, since their own people are now offending each other

[Valrifell]

Beto O'Rourke keeping his amazing first-day fundraising figures a secret over the weekend to bamboozle the media was both impressive and annoying to watch unfold.

To be fair, impressive and annoying is a pretty apt description of O'Rourke.

True.

Beto O'Rourke keeping his amazing first-day fundraising figures a secret over the weekend to bamboozle the media was both impressive and annoying to watch unfold.

Robert Francis O’Rourke is getting grilled by his own side for his St. Patrick’s Day microagression. I’ve said this many times before, but the Social Justice Political Correctness (SJPC) culture is imploding in on itself, since their own people are now offending each other

The trick is that O'Rourke was never cool enough to be on that wing of the party.