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Which Candidate do you support?

Bernie
102
33%
Beto
3
1%
Biden
15
5%
Buttigieg
27
9%
Harris
4
1%
Warren
17
6%
Yang
24
8%
Trump
88
29%
Weld
3
1%
Other
25
8%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:49 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Yang's gonna be the Dem nominee.


That's a bad take.

The better take is that the Democratic requirements to make the debate are too lenient and are likely to be made more strict as more candidates breeze past that 65K individual fundraiser goal. Yang is still a virtual unknown with a platform centered around, essentially, one thing.

A lot of these cats will tap out before the debates even happen.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:51 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
That's a bad take.

The better take is that the Democratic requirements to make the debate are too lenient and are likely to be made more strict as more candidates breeze past that 65K individual fundraiser goal. Yang is still a virtual unknown with a platform centered around, essentially, one thing.

A lot of these cats will tap out before the debates even happen.


Yeah, probably.

But not if they keep qualifying for the debate.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:28 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:A lot of these cats will tap out before the debates even happen.


Yeah, probably.

But not if they keep qualifying for the debate.

Qualifying for the debate won't be their metric, they'll have to look at their map. You can qualify for the debate and still not feel that you have the infrastructure or support strong enough to have a strong debate showing make a difference. Even in years when the process doesn't resemble a clown car a lot of the people who declare this early tap out long before the campaigns really get underway.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:29 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:A lot of these cats will tap out before the debates even happen.


Yeah, probably.

But not if they keep qualifying for the debate.

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Postby Hediacrana » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:57 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Hediacrana wrote:It turns out Beto O'Rourke once was a member of a hacktivist group named the Cult of the Dead Cow, writing on that group's bulletin boards under the name 'Psychedelic Warlord.'

Now I really want a '#PsychedelicWarlord2020' sign for my yard.

WTF i love Beto now. :P

Yeah, I imagine that while this is bad news from the vantage point of your typical campaign operative, it actually adds to Beto's appeal for some demographics. It adds a bit of edge to his otherwise inoffensive yet rather bland image.

Here's another little gem from that same article:
Menn flags a few notable posts from O’Rourke’s time on the CDC boards, writing under the name Psychedelic Warlord. There was one in which he discussed “a money-less society (or have a society where money is heavily de-emphasized).” In another, he wrote a disturbing piece of short fiction about running over a couple of children in the middle of the street. O’Rourke also fought with another poster who identified as a Nazi, challenging the poster’s notion that Adolph Hitler was misunderstood.

Looking at that last bit, I guess he doesn't sound all that different from some of us NSG posters...
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:35 pm

Hediacrana wrote:
Uiiop wrote:WTF i love Beto now. :P

Yeah, I imagine that while this is bad news from the vantage point of your typical campaign operative, it actually adds to Beto's appeal for some demographics. It adds a bit of edge to his otherwise inoffensive yet rather bland image.

Here's another little gem from that same article:
Menn flags a few notable posts from O’Rourke’s time on the CDC boards, writing under the name Psychedelic Warlord. There was one in which he discussed “a money-less society (or have a society where money is heavily de-emphasized).” In another, he wrote a disturbing piece of short fiction about running over a couple of children in the middle of the street. O’Rourke also fought with another poster who identified as a Nazi, challenging the poster’s notion that Adolph Hitler was misunderstood.

Looking at that last bit, I guess he doesn't sound all that different from some of us NSG posters...


Wtf if that was the Beto that was running today I'd like him more.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:This doubles as the 2020 general election thread I heard?

This one will hit 500 pages long before that.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:38 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:This one will hit 500 pages long before that.

Clever, Farn. :p


Anyhow, I would like to announce I am seriously considering running for City Council.
Almost wrote President, oops.

I'll have my speech, policy positions, etc. tomorrow. It's 1020PM here man, I'm good with improvised speeches but too tired to bother.



Let a politician rest! :p




I will say the shooting yesterday solidified my intent to most likely run. I am 95% leaning towards running, the other 5% is stuff that just needs to be worked out before I commit to it.



If you want a comparison, not in political beliefs, but how you can view me in character and my chances in this race-again not policy or beliefs,, or even experience as I have no elected experience-, you may consider me much like Beto O'Rourke, AOC, Julian Castro, Pete Buttigieg, or Cory Booker.


Or if you want to be mean, John Delaney, Marrianne Williamson, or Wayne Messam. :p

If you really going to run for city council, you could make an entry here, but honestly, NSG is not the best place for personal sort of stuff like that.
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Postby Karteria » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:51 pm

Valrifell wrote:The more I think about the closer Buttigieg gets to my top choice. Don't know why, but there's something I like about him.

Or, perhaps, the absence of some things that I don't like that other candidates have.

At the moment, I tend to agree. At the most basic level, he seems to have a tone and M.O. that is refreshing. I've watched a few clips of his recent town hall, and he seems like he could resonate with a lot of people as long as he gets national recognition.

He's also young and seems in-tune with the issues that my generation (millennials/post-millennials) cares about the most; while age isn't my top criterion, I certainly tend to prefer younger candidates.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:45 pm

So, a Veto from Trump.

Will this hurt or increase his chances of re-election ?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:25 am

The Alma Mater wrote:So, a Veto from Trump.

Will this hurt or increase his chances of re-election ?

This far out, with the Trump newscycle? Barely perceptible.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:37 am

The Alma Mater wrote:So, a Veto from Trump.

Will this hurt or increase his chances of re-election ?



Neither, it will have zero impact. Most have made up their mind already.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:58 am

Valrifell wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Yang's gonna be the Dem nominee.


That's a bad take.

The better take is that the Democratic requirements to make the debate are too lenient and are likely to be made more strict as more candidates breeze past that 65K individual fundraiser goal. Yang is still a virtual unknown with a platform centered around, essentially, one thing.


Yang is also secretly backed by some alt-right elements, especially the Accelerationists.

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:00 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
That's a bad take.

The better take is that the Democratic requirements to make the debate are too lenient and are likely to be made more strict as more candidates breeze past that 65K individual fundraiser goal. Yang is still a virtual unknown with a platform centered around, essentially, one thing.


Yang is also secretly backed by some alt-right elements, especially the Accelerationists.


it's not even secret, go to /pol/. Honestly, it's quite funny that, if only they visited, the media will learn how much shit they cover actually originates there as a fucking joke.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:02 am

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Yang is also secretly backed by some alt-right elements, especially the Accelerationists.


it's not even secret, go to /pol/. Honestly, it's quite funny that, if only they visited, the media will learn how much shit they cover actually originates there as a fucking joke.


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Postby Blargoblarg » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:45 am

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:This one will hit 500 pages long before that.

Clever, Farn. :p


Anyhow, I would like to announce I am seriously considering running for City Council.
Almost wrote President, oops.

I'll have my speech, policy positions, etc. tomorrow. It's 1020PM here man, I'm good with improvised speeches but too tired to bother.



Let a politician rest! :p




I will say the shooting yesterday solidified my intent to most likely run. I am 95% leaning towards running, the other 5% is stuff that just needs to be worked out before I commit to it.



If you want a comparison, not in political beliefs, but how you can view me in character and my chances in this race-again not policy or beliefs,, or even experience as I have no elected experience-, you may consider me much like Beto O'Rourke, AOC, Julian Castro, Pete Buttigieg, or Cory Booker.


Or if you want to be mean, John Delaney, Marrianne Williamson, or Wayne Messam. :p


I've been considering running for my state's legislature for some time now. I'd say my political views are probably closest to Bernie Sanders.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:52 am

Blargoblarg wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Clever, Farn. :p


Anyhow, I would like to announce I am seriously considering running for City Council.
Almost wrote President, oops.

I'll have my speech, policy positions, etc. tomorrow. It's 1020PM here man, I'm good with improvised speeches but too tired to bother.



Let a politician rest! :p




I will say the shooting yesterday solidified my intent to most likely run. I am 95% leaning towards running, the other 5% is stuff that just needs to be worked out before I commit to it.



If you want a comparison, not in political beliefs, but how you can view me in character and my chances in this race-again not policy or beliefs,, or even experience as I have no elected experience-, you may consider me much like Beto O'Rourke, AOC, Julian Castro, Pete Buttigieg, or Cory Booker.


Or if you want to be mean, John Delaney, Marrianne Williamson, or Wayne Messam. :p


I've been considering running for my state's legislature for some time now. I'd say my political views are probably closest to Bernie Sanders.

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Postby Valrifell » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:27 am

So, Buttigieg and Yang are confirmed to have qualified for the DNC debates.

Do you think the ticket will be Yang/Buttigieg or Buttigieg/Yang :p
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Postby Ism » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:18 am

Valrifell wrote:So, Buttigieg and Yang are confirmed to have qualified for the DNC debates.

Do you think the ticket will be Yang/Buttigieg or Buttigieg/Yang :p


Hopefully not. I think either of these guys should do what Obama did and have a more experienced VP.

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Postby South Odreria » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:53 am

Valrifell wrote:So, Buttigieg and Yang are confirmed to have qualified for the DNC debates.

Do you think the ticket will be Yang/Buttigieg or Buttigieg/Yang :p


Buttigieg is maybe running for HUD secretary, and Indiana statewide office after that.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:55 am

South Odreria wrote:
Valrifell wrote:So, Buttigieg and Yang are confirmed to have qualified for the DNC debates.

Do you think the ticket will be Yang/Buttigieg or Buttigieg/Yang :p


Buttigieg is maybe running for HUD secretary, and Indiana statewide office after that.


Just, like, a question but have you seen or read him before?
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:01 am

Yang is amusing me, if only because of what he said about taking guns...only to give you a better gun. $1,000 a month would also be nice until inflation kicks in and the USG collapses.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:52 am

Confederate States of German America wrote:Yang is amusing me, if only because of what he said about taking guns...only to give you a better gun. $1,000 a month would also be nice until inflation kicks in and the USG collapses.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:57 am

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:Yang is amusing me, if only because of what he said about taking guns...only to give you a better gun. $1,000 a month would also be nice until inflation kicks in and the USG collapses.

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:00 pm

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10/10 would vote for.

Why wouldn’t everyone? It’s putting taxes to good use, unlike wasting it on people who would actually need it. Also, it would help the industry and strengthen the American militia.
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