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Which Candidate do you support?

Bernie
102
33%
Beto
3
1%
Biden
15
5%
Buttigieg
27
9%
Harris
4
1%
Warren
17
6%
Yang
24
8%
Trump
88
29%
Weld
3
1%
Other
25
8%
 
Total votes : 308
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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:11 pm

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The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I see, I get what you’re saying now.


Kasich is every part of the GOP that isn't good, and none of the parts that are good...

Tbh, the only thing the GOP is good on for me is guns, other than that they’re absolute garbage, which is why I have never and likely will never vote GOP. Their current track record on the majority of social issues is awful.
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Bienenhalde
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Postby Bienenhalde » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Kasich Trump supports all the worst parts of the GOP with none of the redeeming aspects that at least make some Republicans bearable.


FTFY
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:28 pm

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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:30 pm

Ye doggy, heard Warren is exploring her options. Got me a candidate for if Sanders doesn't run.
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United Perkistan
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Postby United Perkistan » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:33 pm

Jesus its still 2018 in some places chill.

Also Dems are screwed if Warren runs LOL
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:34 pm

Kannap wrote:Ye doggy, heard Warren is exploring her options. Got me a candidate for if Sanders doesn't run.

Warren would be ok, but at this point I just want anyone sensible for president.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:08 pm

Dems are facing pretty favorable conditions going into 2020, I don't think you can solidly rule out any candidate they can throw at Trump. Imo, they all have at least a chance.
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:32 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kannap wrote:Ye doggy, heard Warren is exploring her options. Got me a candidate for if Sanders doesn't run.

Warren would be ok, but at this point I just want anyone sensible for president.


Warren would be ok if you want Trump to win lol
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Postby Atheris » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:32 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Warren would be ok, but at this point I just want anyone sensible for president.


Warren would be ok if you want Trump to win lol

I dunno, I would definitely vote for her.

(just pray trump doesn't win just pray trump doesn't win)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:33 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Kasich Trump supports all the worst parts of the GOP with none of the redeeming aspects that at least make some Republicans bearable.


FTFY


Trump isn't a social conservative and pretty much pioneered the modern protectionist attitude amongst the right. In spite of him being a raging dumbass those are some big points in favor of him.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:37 pm

Atheris wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Warren would be ok if you want Trump to win lol

I dunno, I would definitely vote for her.

(just pray trump doesn't win just pray trump doesn't win)


I'm pretty sure polling has been done more than once that shows Trump winning in a hypothetical Warren v Trump race, and iirc it wasn't exactly by razor thin margins. Someone like Biden is who the party is gonna want if they want a win, though maybe it's just me but he's been seeming really old lately so idk if he's even a good choice now.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:42 pm

Why isn't Kanye West up in the poll? :p
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Postby Atheris » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:42 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Why isn't Kanye West up in the poll? :p

Kanye West, 2020

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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:47 pm

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Dresderstan
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Postby Dresderstan » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:47 pm

Kayne would be the greatest president in the world no question. :p
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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Warren would be ok, but at this point I just want anyone sensible for president.


Warren would be ok if you want Trump to win lol


Definitely the only option for beating Trump is Sanders, but if Sanders - for some asinine reason - doesn't run, then my vote goes to Warren.
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Atheris wrote:I dunno, I would definitely vote for her.

(just pray trump doesn't win just pray trump doesn't win)


I'm pretty sure polling has been done more than once that shows Trump winning in a hypothetical Warren v Trump race, and iirc it wasn't exactly by razor thin margins. Someone like Biden is who the party is gonna want if they want a win, though maybe it's just me but he's been seeming really old lately so idk if he's even a good choice now.


You keep referencing that poll, but methinks it's a tad dated at this point. A lot's happened since (iirc) it was conducted.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:55 pm

Kannap wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Warren would be ok if you want Trump to win lol


Definitely the only option for beating Trump is Sanders.


Objectively untrue.
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:57 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm pretty sure polling has been done more than once that shows Trump winning in a hypothetical Warren v Trump race, and iirc it wasn't exactly by razor thin margins. Someone like Biden is who the party is gonna want if they want a win, though maybe it's just me but he's been seeming really old lately so idk if he's even a good choice now.


You keep referencing that poll, but methinks it's a tad dated at this point. A lot's happened since (iirc) it was conducted.


Trump has remained his same obnoxious self and Warren has become even more of a meme because of the whole native thing. If she can't beat Trump a month after inauguration she won't beat him after 4 years imo.
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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:57 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Definitely the only option for beating Trump is Sanders.


Objectively untrue.


Anybody other than Sanders are effectively establishment neocons...
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:59 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Objectively untrue.


Anybody other than Sanders are effectively establishment neocons...


Pro-Sanders propaganda.

Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, I don't like the hero-worship and the "last chance savior" vibe I get from some here.
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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:16 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
FTFY


Trump isn't a social conservative and pretty much pioneered the modern protectionist attitude amongst the right. In spite of him being a raging dumbass those are some big points in favor of him.

I mean, Trump is as socially conservative as his base wants him to be, so socially conservative he’ll remain for as long as he’s in politics and has elections to win.
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Vespertania
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Postby Vespertania » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:38 pm

Dresderstan wrote:*bangs head on desk*

Can't we at least get one year without having to deal with an election just once in my life!?


That's kind of the price of democracy. At least it never gets boring.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:40 pm

Vespertania wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:*bangs head on desk*

Can't we at least get one year without having to deal with an election just once in my life!?


That's kind of the price of democracy. At least it never gets boring.


It kind of does get boring, though.

"Oh yay, a conservative neocon in the pocket of big business vs. another conservative neocon in the pocket of big business...but this one gives token half-hearted concessions to the minorities!"
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Zex
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Postby Zex » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:11 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Objectively untrue.


Anybody other than Sanders are effectively establishment neocons...

Neocon, Neolib; just call them the party of Neos, because there ain't no difference.
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