2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[San Lumen]

meanwhile in Iowa a white supremacist was reelected as Congressman because the district is to red to vote for a Democrat

Or they are all racists and are voting how they want to vote. Who knows?

I would not call them all racists

[Thuzbekistan]

Or they are all racists and are voting how they want to vote. Who knows?

I would not call them all racists

Anyone that votes for an admitted white supremacist is probably a tad racist.

[Mystic Warriors]

You admit it, cool.

The history between you two is not the topic here. Can we go back to a semi-relevant topic of discussion please?

I will vote for Stalin as a write in. Seriously.

[Telconi]

Or they are all racists and are voting how they want to vote. Who knows?

I would not call them all racists

Would you say they all did a bad thing by voting for a white supremacist?

[San Lumen]

Which is why we need to keep yanking those blindfolds off. The bigger the pool of people who can see how awful this bipartisan government truly is, the more options we have on people who can run for office against the political duopoly.

Closed list PR for the win!! STV for the senate

get a referendum on the ballot to implement that. Its how Maine got RCV for their elections. The primary used it but not the general for some reason last year.

[Thermodolia]

Why not Larry Sharpe?

Also would I be a viable third party candidate theoretically speaking, for a local office?

Asking to see a example of what you mean by viable.

He wanted all public transit to lose state funding which would mean the MTA would have to pass costs under riders, the already exorbitant fares would go sky high and the agency would quickly go bankrupt as no one but the wealthy could afford it.

Yes I think you would be

You do realize that no state funding doesn’t mean no government funding right? MARTA doesn’t have state funding yet it only costs $2.50 to ride

[Idzequitch]

I would not call them all racists

Would you say they all did a bad thing by voting for a white supremacist?

That seems like a self-answering question for anyone who isn't a white supremacist.

[Thuzbekistan]

Closed list PR for the win!! STV for the senate

get a referendum on the ballot to implement that. Its how Maine got RCV for their elections. The primary used it but not the general for some reason last year.

One thing I like about you is that you always advocate DOING something. Like, you're really consistent on that even if you don't agree with what they say. "I don't like this" "change it!- Here's how" is the best response.

[San Lumen]

He wanted all public transit to lose state funding which would mean the MTA would have to pass costs under riders, the already exorbitant fares would go sky high and the agency would quickly go bankrupt as no one but the wealthy could afford it.

Yes I think you would be

You do realize that no state funding doesn’t mean no government funding right? MARTA doesn’t have state funding yet it only costs $2.50 to ride

MARTA and the MTA are two very different agencies. The reason fares arent completely unaffordable is state funding

[Shrillland]

Closed list PR for the win!! STV for the senate

get a referendum on the ballot to implement that. Its how Maine got RCV for their elections. The primary used it but not the general for some reason last year.

Not possible. Georgia doesn't have ballot initiatives, only the legislature can send amendments or bills to the voters, and the legislature won't voluntarily give up any kind of control, no matter what party's in charge.

[San Lumen]

get a referendum on the ballot to implement that. Its how Maine got RCV for their elections. The primary used it but not the general for some reason last year.

One thing I like about you is that you always advocate DOING something. Like, you're really consistent on that even if you don't agree with what they say. "I don't like this" "change it!- Here's how" is the best response.

True that would be a better way to say it

[San Lumen]

get a referendum on the ballot to implement that. Its how Maine got RCV for their elections. The primary used it but not the general for some reason last year.

Not possible. Georgia doesn't have ballot initiatives, only the legislature can send amendments to the voters, and the legislature won't voluntarily give up any kind of control, no matter what party's in charge.

Then you elect people who support it. Its how we finally updated New York's Byzantine election law. We elected a state senate that supported reform and Cuomo signed the bill

[Thermodolia]

Visibility. Ballot access. General public awareness. Pushing momentum forward for the next election, when hopefully we'll be more viable than when we last ran.

but they arent nominating people who are viable.

Neither did the democrats in 2016

[Thermodolia]

I'm in Tennessee. Rednecks will be rednecks is how I see that. Still a minority compared to most, given that most Americans are moderates and don't fall to far into either party, they just have their preference.

Fair enough there, too. I'm moving to Southwest Georgia in a few years, so....

Georgia you say?

[Shrillland]

Fair enough there, too. I'm moving to Southwest Georgia in a few years, so....

Georgia you say?

Not near you, I'm afraid. Down around Albany is the plan.

[Thermodolia]

get a referendum on the ballot to implement that. Its how Maine got RCV for their elections. The primary used it but not the general for some reason last year.

One thing I like about you is that you always advocate DOING something. Like, you're really consistent on that even if you don't agree with what they say. "I don't like this" "change it!- Here's how" is the best response.

I gets really fucking annoying though

[San Lumen]

but they arent nominating people who are viable.

Neither did the democrats in 2016

she still won the popular vote and only lost because of antiqued system that gives more weight to land area

No one would think that was fair on the state level

[Idzequitch]

Not possible. Georgia doesn't have ballot initiatives, only the legislature can send amendments to the voters, and the legislature won't voluntarily give up any kind of control, no matter what party's in charge.

Then you elect people who support it. Its how we finally updated New York's Byzantine election law. We elected a state senate that supported reform and Cuomo signed the bill

And the way you get people willing to remove power from Dems and Reps is to elect non-Dems and non-Reps. Just saying.

[Telconi]

Would you say they all did a bad thing by voting for a white supremacist?

That seems like a self-answering question for anyone who isn't a white supremacist.

Curiously, people often vote for particular candidates based upon other positions despite positions they dislike. I mean, as a legislator I don't imagine this fellow as simply abstained from voting on any bill not of a racist nature.

[San Lumen]

One thing I like about you is that you always advocate DOING something. Like, you're really consistent on that even if you don't agree with what they say. "I don't like this" "change it!- Here's how" is the best response.

I gets really fucking annoying though

Your not going to get the change you want unless you elect people who support reform. We did that in New York with our state senate and finally updated our outdated election law

[Thermodolia]

Georgia you say?

Not near you, I'm afraid. Down around Albany is the plan.

I figured you were going around there. Good luck the crime around Albany is crazy.

[Telconi]

Neither did the democrats in 2016

she still won the popular vote and only lost because of antiqued system that gives more weight to land area

No one would think that was fair on the state level

It isn't fair on the federal level either.

[San Lumen]

Then you elect people who support it. Its how we finally updated New York's Byzantine election law. We elected a state senate that supported reform and Cuomo signed the bill

And the way you get people willing to remove power from Dems and Reps is to elect non-Dems and non-Reps. Just saying.

and you do that by putting up viable candidates

[Idzequitch]

but they arent nominating people who are viable.

Neither did the democrats in 2016

That's my favorite thing about the whole viability discussion. The 2016 election literally came down to two completely unviable candidates who managed to get in the good graces of the major parties.

[Thermodolia]

I gets really fucking annoying though

Your not going to get the change you want unless you elect people who support reform. We did that in New York with our state senate and finally updated our outdated election law

If you could stop with the same canned response over and over when ever someone says we should do x would be great.