2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Mystic Warriors]

Go pitch that fit to the GOP. As I said, they view the left as their enemy. We didn't start the fire, they did.

"MOMMY!!! HE STARTED IT!!!!!" God wtf kind of thinking is that. I pitch it to both sides. I hate the hyper partisanship and the view of these parties as enemies to be fought. It's the same attitude that came before the civil war and in extremely tense times in our history.

You need to calm down. There is no reason for you to throw a tantrum here. Just causes whatever you say to be lost.

The ridiculous nature of your view should be easy to see. Bending over backwards to work with someone who hates you is not sound.

[Shrillland]

running people like Larry Sharpe for governor as a Libertarian isnt going to get them into power.

Why not Larry Sharpe?

Also would I be a viable third party candidate theoretically speaking, for a local office?

Asking to see a example of what you mean by viable.

Well, if you mean the Pacific Greens, maybe.

[San Lumen]

running people like Larry Sharpe for governor as a Libertarian isnt going to get them into power.

Why not Larry Sharpe?

Also would I be a viable third party candidate theoretically speaking, for a local office?

Asking to see a example of what you mean by viable.

He wanted all public transit to lose state funding which would mean the MTA would have to pass costs under riders, the already exorbitant fares would go sky high and the agency would quickly go bankrupt as no one but the wealthy could afford it.

Yes I think you would be

[Mystic Warriors]

Go pitch that fit to the GOP. As I said, they view the left as their enemy. We didn't start the fire, they did.

I mean, who should I view as my enemy?

That's not for me to say. You figure it out

[Mystic Warriors]

Ok slick, where did I say ban conservatives?

Republicans are generally conservative politicians.

Just as I thought. You cant prove your own point. Moving on.

[Telconi]

I mean, who should I view as my enemy?

NK. Russia. Iran. Maybe China. Oh, and corruption, but nobody is interested in tackling that. #expandtheswamp

Let's be honest, NK, Russia, Iran, China... foreign powers hold essentially zero threat over my life. If Kim Jong Un decided to fuck my shit up tomorrow, the chances of it happening are near zero. If Gavin Newsom decided to fuck my shit up tomorrow, the chances of it happening are magnitudes higher.

So while the mean old foreign dictator makes for a good boogeyman, my own governor is a threat to my way of life that they don't hold a candle to.

As for corruption, it's a nice feel good thing to say corruption is the real enemy, but it really isn't. It's a drag on our society, sure, and a constant parasite on our government. But how many people are subjected to shitty policies because corruption? How many are really effected in any measurable quantity?

[Mystic Warriors]

I mean, who should I view as my enemy?

NK. Russia. Iran. Maybe China. Oh, and corruption, but nobody is interested in tackling that. #expandtheswamp

Or anybody who wants to cause you harm?

[Thuzbekistan]

"MOMMY!!! HE STARTED IT!!!!!" God wtf kind of thinking is that. I pitch it to both sides. I hate the hyper partisanship and the view of these parties as enemies to be fought. It's the same attitude that came before the civil war and in extremely tense times in our history.

You need to calm down. There is no reason for you to throw a tantrum here. Just causes whatever you say to be lost.

The ridiculous nature of your view should be easy to see. Bending over backwards to work with someone who hates you is not sound.

The thing is neither side hates each other. It's this vocal minority. Most democrats don't view Republicans and Repubs don't view dems as the enemy and most support bipartisan acts. You and others are part of that minority that literally hates the other side. But never in my life have I heard of someone saying to ban their major opposition.

[Idzequitch]

I'll leave the role of viability police to someone else, but thanks for the analysis.

running people like Larry Sharpe for governor as a Libertarian isnt going to get them into power.

Let me explain this slowly, so that maybe I won't get the broken record response again.

I acknowledge that Larry Sharpe wasn't a great candidate. I personally vote for other parties to do my part to make them more viable, to help people to take off their partisan blindfolds, and actually consider voting for someone else.

Then, when we have a larger base of people who recognize the corruption of the D's and R's, we'll have more people to draw from to run for office, so we don't have to run the Larry Sharpes of the world.

It's a slow process. But it needs to happen. Because hyper-bipartisanship is killing this country, and I'm taking the steps I deem necessary to combat it.

[Thuzbekistan]

Republicans are generally conservative politicians.

Just as I thought. You cant prove your own point. Moving on.

Because you saw the wrong point originally. I wasn't saying you said ban conservatives, I said you wanted to ban Republicans, to which you responded that you never said to ban conservatives, to which I said that Republicans are mostly conservatives. I'm not sure how you just avoid this.

[Shrillland]

NK. Russia. Iran. Maybe China. Oh, and corruption, but nobody is interested in tackling that. #expandtheswamp

Let's be honest, NK, Russia, Iran, China... foreign powers hold essentially zero threat over my life. If Kim Jong Un decided to fuck my shit up tomorrow, the chances of it happening are near zero. If Gavin Newsom decided to fuck my shit up tomorrow, the chances of it happening are magnitudes higher.

So while the mean old foreign dictator makes for a good boogeyman, my own governor is a threat to my way of life that they don't hold a candle to.

As for corruption, it's a nice feel good thing to say corruption is the real enemy, but it really isn't. It's a drag on our society, sure, and a constant parasite on our government. But how many people are subjected to shitty policies because corruption? How many are really effected in any measurable quantity?

eh...nuclear war kind of holds a threat over all our lives, to say nothing of the privations that such a war and the total mobilisation required would impose upon us all.

[San Lumen]

running people like Larry Sharpe for governor as a Libertarian isnt going to get them into power.

Let me explain this slowly, so that maybe I won't get the broken record response again.

I acknowledge that Larry Sharpe wasn't a great candidate. I personally vote for other parties to do my part to make them more viable, to help people to take off their partisan blindfolds, and actually consider voting for someone else.

Then, when we have a larger base of people who recognize the corruption of the D's and R's, we'll have more people to draw from to run for office, so we don't have to run the Larry Sharpes of the world.

It's a slow process. But it needs to happen. Because hyper-bipartisanship is killing this country, and I'm taking the steps I deem necessary to combat it.

if viable people dont run on third party lines what good is voting for people like Sharpe?

[Telconi]

Let's be honest, NK, Russia, Iran, China... foreign powers hold essentially zero threat over my life. If Kim Jong Un decided to fuck my shit up tomorrow, the chances of it happening are near zero. If Gavin Newsom decided to fuck my shit up tomorrow, the chances of it happening are magnitudes higher.

So while the mean old foreign dictator makes for a good boogeyman, my own governor is a threat to my way of life that they don't hold a candle to.

As for corruption, it's a nice feel good thing to say corruption is the real enemy, but it really isn't. It's a drag on our society, sure, and a constant parasite on our government. But how many people are subjected to shitty policies because corruption? How many are really effected in any measurable quantity?

eh...nuclear war kind of holds a threat over all our lives, to say nothing of the privations that such a war and the total mobilisation required would impose upon us all.

And the chances of nuclear war are high? Risk analysis must acknowledge the likelihood of such a risk occuring.

[Shrillland]

You need to calm down. There is no reason for you to throw a tantrum here. Just causes whatever you say to be lost.

The ridiculous nature of your view should be easy to see. Bending over backwards to work with someone who hates you is not sound.

The thing is neither side hates each other. It's this vocal minority. Most democrats don't view Republicans and Repubs don't view dems as the enemy and most support bipartisan acts. You and others are part of that minority that literally hates the other side. But never in my life have I heard of someone saying to ban their major opposition.

Try saying that around here, I live two blocks away from someone waving the Rebel flag, and there are plenty of people in this part of Illinois that talk about getting into fights over politics.

[Mystic Warriors]

You need to calm down. There is no reason for you to throw a tantrum here. Just causes whatever you say to be lost.

The ridiculous nature of your view should be easy to see. Bending over backwards to work with someone who hates you is not sound.

The thing is neither side hates each other. It's this vocal minority. Most democrats don't view Republicans and Repubs don't view dems as the enemy and most support bipartisan acts. You and others are part of that minority that literally hates the other side. But never in my life have I heard of someone saying to ban their major opposition.

Your world view is too narrow. Republicans on state levels use power to limit Democrats and Trump constantly attacks Democrats in vile ways and labels then enemies of the state. Start there then get back to me

[Telconi]

NK. Russia. Iran. Maybe China. Oh, and corruption, but nobody is interested in tackling that. #expandtheswamp

Or anybody who wants to cause you harm?

Democrats.

[Idzequitch]

NK. Russia. Iran. Maybe China. Oh, and corruption, but nobody is interested in tackling that. #expandtheswamp

Or anybody who wants to cause you harm?

Welcome to the libertarian school of thought!

[Shrillland]

eh...nuclear war kind of holds a threat over all our lives, to say nothing of the privations that such a war and the total mobilisation required would impose upon us all.

And the chances of nuclear war are high? Risk analysis must acknowledge the likelihood of such a risk occuring.

Fair enough, only NK seems mad enough to actually use them, and we're doing what we can, which admittedly isn't much.

[Mystic Warriors]

The thing is neither side hates each other. It's this vocal minority. Most democrats don't view Republicans and Repubs don't view dems as the enemy and most support bipartisan acts. You and others are part of that minority that literally hates the other side. But never in my life have I heard of someone saying to ban their major opposition.

Try saying that around here, I live two blocks away from someone waving the Rebel flag, and there are plenty of people in this part of Illinois that talk about getting into fights over politics.

It happens all the time. That's how I got so far to the left, Republicans pushed me.

[Idzequitch]

Or anybody who wants to cause you harm?

Democrats.

How specificaly to they want to cause you personal harm?

[Mystic Warriors]

Or anybody who wants to cause you harm?

Democrats.

No. Stop lying.

[Telconi]

And the chances of nuclear war are high? Risk analysis must acknowledge the likelihood of such a risk occuring.

Fair enough, only NK seems mad enough to actually use them, and we're doing what we can, which admittedly isn't much.

So that brings us back to where actual risk lies. And it isn't with foreign crackpot dictators.

[Mystic Warriors]

Democrats.

How specificaly to they want to cause you personal harm?

Something about taxes and guns.

[Thuzbekistan]

The thing is neither side hates each other. It's this vocal minority. Most democrats don't view Republicans and Repubs don't view dems as the enemy and most support bipartisan acts. You and others are part of that minority that literally hates the other side. But never in my life have I heard of someone saying to ban their major opposition.

Your world view is too narrow. Republicans on state levels use power to limit Democrats and Trump constantly attacks Democrats in vile ways and labels then enemies of the state. Start there then get back to me

When they do it, they are called on it and stopped by courts. Trump is not the Republican Party and he gets criticism across the board when he does that. Also, they don't do that in my home state of Tennessee. Voter ID law is ok with me so long as it is free and not done in a way that creates disadvantages for people. Things like in Georgia and Alabama are complete outliers that do not make up the whole party.

But if you want to continue just assuming republicans are evil and aren't conservatives and shouldn't be banned, then fine.

[Idzequitch]

Let me explain this slowly, so that maybe I won't get the broken record response again.

I acknowledge that Larry Sharpe wasn't a great candidate. I personally vote for other parties to do my part to make them more viable, to help people to take off their partisan blindfolds, and actually consider voting for someone else.

Then, when we have a larger base of people who recognize the corruption of the D's and R's, we'll have more people to draw from to run for office, so we don't have to run the Larry Sharpes of the world.

It's a slow process. But it needs to happen. Because hyper-bipartisanship is killing this country, and I'm taking the steps I deem necessary to combat it.

if viable people dont run on third party lines what good is voting for people like Sharpe?

Visibility. Ballot access. General public awareness. Pushing momentum forward for the next election, when hopefully we'll be more viable than when we last ran.