2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Telconi]

Hey, as soon as the Republicans become the wrong party I'd willingly drop them like a hot potato.

And what would it take for them to become the wrong party?

Gun bans. Or, alternatively, the Democrats to stop pushing gun bans.

[Telconi]

Hey, as soon as the Republicans become the wrong party I'd willingly drop them like a hot potato.

They're both wrong though.

Elections are relative, obviously neither is perfect.

[San Lumen]

And what would it take for them to become the wry have you ong party?

Gun bans. Or, alternatively, the Democrats to stop pushing gun bans.

Yeah and who cares if the next generation has a ruined environment, only knows many species from books, has debt up the the wazoo, no healthcare or social safety nets and a gutted education system. A long as you have your guns. Its funny you claim to care about other things yet its patently obvious your guns are all that matter and everything else can go to hell even if that means rigged elections only your party can win.

[Telconi]

Gun bans. Or, alternatively, the Democrats to stop pushing gun bans.

Yeah and who cares if the next generation has a ruined environment, only knows many species from books, has debt up the the wazoo, no healthcare or social safety nets and a gutted education system. A long as you have your guns. Its funny you claim to care about other things yet its patently obvious your guns are all that matter and everything else can go to hell even if that means rigged elections only your party can win.

I understand that relative value is a difficult idea for you, but it really isn't hard.

[Thermodolia]

Gun bans. Or, alternatively, the Democrats to stop pushing gun bans.

Yeah and who cares if the next generation has a ruined environment, only knows many species from books, has debt up the the wazoo, no healthcare or social safety nets and a gutted education system. A long as you have your guns. Its funny you claim to care about other things yet its patently obvious your guns are all that matter and everything else can go to hell even if that means rigged elections only your party can win.

Could you stop acting like a broken record for once?

[Cannot think of a name]

Yeah and who cares if the next generation has a ruined environment, only knows many species from books, has debt up the the wazoo, no healthcare or social safety nets and a gutted education system. A long as you have your guns. Its funny you claim to care about other things yet its patently obvious your guns are all that matter and everything else can go to hell even if that means rigged elections only your party can win.

Could you stop acting like a broken record for once?

Are the Ross and Rachel of NSG American politic threads at it again? You can spray your hose on them all you want, you can't separate these two.

[San Lumen]

Yeah and who cares if the next generation has a ruined environment, only knows many species from books, has debt up the the wazoo, no healthcare or social safety nets and a gutted education system. A long as you have your guns. Its funny you claim to care about other things yet its patently obvious your guns are all that matter and everything else can go to hell even if that means rigged elections only your party can win.

Could you stop acting like a broken record for once?

its fact. some just won't listen and I I'm honestly tired of the back and forth.

[Thermodolia]

Could you stop acting like a broken record for once?

its fact. some just won't listen and I I'm honestly tired of the back and forth.

Your tired of the back and forth?

[Idzequitch]

The democrats and the republicans are the same turd.

and what are you doing to change it?

Supporting other parties. Voting against Corrupt Thing 1 and Corrupt Thing 2.

[San Lumen]

and what are you doing to change it?

Supporting other parties. Voting against Corrupt Thing 1 and Corrupt Thing 2.

And which third party has a viable chance of winning?

[Idzequitch]

They're both wrong though.

Elections are relative, obviously neither is perfect.

And relatively speaking, both parties are so far away from ideal that it's not even worth wasting breath arguing about which one is closer to being "right."

[Thuzbekistan]

San, dude, you're way overly focused on this electoral college and rural vs urban vote. Can you chill on that?

[Idzequitch]

Supporting other parties. Voting against Corrupt Thing 1 and Corrupt Thing 2.

And which third party has a viable chance of winning?

Any of them, as soon as the blind partisan sheep lose the blindfolds.

[Telconi]

Elections are relative, obviously neither is perfect.

And relatively speaking, both parties are so far away from ideal that it's not even worth wasting breath arguing about which one is closer to being "right."

Are they both far from ideal, yeah. But one is quite clearly farther than the other. And the unfortunate fact is that "lesser of two evils" is the name of the game.

[Idzequitch]

And relatively speaking, both parties are so far away from ideal that it's not even worth wasting breath arguing about which one is closer to being "right."

Are they both far from ideal, yeah. But one is quite clearly farther than the other. And the unfortunate fact is that "lesser of two evils" is the name of the game.

Call me overly idealistic, but that's a reality I refuse to accept. When presented with two evils, I must choose neither.

[San Lumen]

San, dude, you're way overly focused on this electoral college and rural vs urban vote. Can you chill on that?

That wasn't about rural vs urban or the electoral college

And which third party has a viable chance of winning?

Any of them, as soon as the blind partisan sheep lose the blindfolds.

They never put up people that are viable. The libertarian that ran for Governor of New York last year wanted to cut all state funding for public transit and have the municipalities or counties run it. The MTA would go bankrupt with such a proposal as no one but the rich would be able to afford the exorbitant fares

[Telconi]

Are they both far from ideal, yeah. But one is quite clearly farther than the other. And the unfortunate fact is that "lesser of two evils" is the name of the game.

Call me overly idealistic, but that's a reality I refuse to accept. When presented with two evils, I must choose neither.

I mean, that's your prerogative. But I'd prefer to at least steer my country down a better path, if not one that's necessarily good.

[Thuzbekistan]

Supporting other parties. Voting against Corrupt Thing 1 and Corrupt Thing 2.

And which third party has a viable chance of winning?

Why does this matter? Prior to the Civil War, parties rose and reformed all the time. 3rd parties affect the race all the time. Think of Ross Perot. Winning isn't as important as voting with your conscience, Lumen.

[San Lumen]

And which third party has a viable chance of winning?

Why does this matter? Prior to the Civil War, parties rose and reformed all the time. 3rd parties affect the race all the time. Think of Ross Perot. Winning isn't as important as voting with your conscience, Lumen.

I agree you should vote your conscience but third parties elected Trump

[Thuzbekistan]

San, dude, you're way overly focused on this electoral college and rural vs urban vote. Can you chill on that?

That wasn't about rural vs urban or the electoral college

I was referring to the previous 4 pages, mate.

[Thuzbekistan]

Why does this matter? Prior to the Civil War, parties rose and reformed all the time. 3rd parties affect the race all the time. Think of Ross Perot. Winning isn't as important as voting with your conscience, Lumen.

I agree you should vote your conscience but third parties elected Trump

No, they don't. Green didn't steal the vote form hillary. In fact, the protest votes for Johnson were enough that it would have been insanely closer had those libertarians voted for Trump instead just to pick the candidate. Trump is not the end all and be all of our politics either. 2016 was just a horrible year which we will hopefully not live to see another like.

[San Lumen]

I agree you should vote your conscience but third parties elected Trump

No, they don't. Green didn't steal the vote form hillary. In fact, the protest votes for Johnson were enough that it would have been insanely closer had those libertarians voted for Trump instead just to pick the candidate. Trump is not the end all and be all of our politics either. 2016 was just a horrible year which we will hopefully not live to see another like.

I hope Trump loses next year but im not confident about it.

[Idzequitch]

San, dude, you're way overly focused on this electoral college and rural vs urban vote. Can you chill on that?

That wasn't about rural vs urban or the electoral college

Any of them, as soon as the blind partisan sheep lose the blindfolds.

They never put up people that are viable. The libertarian that ran for Governor of New York last year wanted to cut all state funding for public transit and have the municipalities or counties run it. The MTA would go bankrupt with such a proposal as no one but the rich would be able to afford the exorbitant fares

Which is why we need to keep yanking those blindfolds off. The bigger the pool of people who can see how awful this bipartisan government truly is, the more options we have on people who can run for office against the political duopoly.

[San Lumen]

That wasn't about rural vs urban or the electoral college

They never put up people that are viable. The libertarian that ran for Governor of New York last year wanted to cut all state funding for public transit and have the municipalities or counties run it. The MTA would go bankrupt with such a proposal as no one but the rich would be able to afford the exorbitant fares

Which is why we need to keep yanking those blindfolds off. The bigger the pool of people who can see how awful this bipartisan government truly is, the more options we have on people who can run for office against the political duopoly.

By running people like that?

[Idzequitch]

Why does this matter? Prior to the Civil War, parties rose and reformed all the time. 3rd parties affect the race all the time. Think of Ross Perot. Winning isn't as important as voting with your conscience, Lumen.

I agree you should vote your conscience but third parties elected Trump

Not at all. I hated Candidate Donald and I hated Candidate Hillary. It's hardly any fault of mine who other people voted for. I tried to warn them. They didn't listen.