2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

They heavily implied it

I didn't. You just went there because it's your thing.

I'm going to have to second Telconi here. I just reread this debate and honestly I'm not seeing anything that qualifies.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I agree both sides are guilty. Republicans also view free and fair elections as an annoyance or they wouldnt be appealing decisions striking down gerrymandering and would be working to secure our elections

Hey man, if ol' Booker gets a pass for slapping shit licenses on stuff why not do it to voting too?

This, on the other hand, is something I vehemently disagree with. Everyone should have one vote - no more, no less.

[San Lumen]

I agree both sides are guilty. Republicans also view free and fair elections as an annoyance or they wouldnt be appealing decisions striking down gerrymandering and would be working to secure our elections

Hey man, if ol' Booker gets a pass for slapping shit licenses on stuff why not do it to voting too?

One man, one vote is very important

[Washington Resistance Army]

Hey man, if ol' Booker gets a pass for slapping shit licenses on stuff why not do it to voting too?

This, on the other hand, is something I vehemently disagree with. Everyone should have one vote - no more, no less.

Sure, but if it's okay to put a license requirement on a constitutionally protected right what's really the problem with a voter ID?

Not saying you support the former, tis just a thought experiment really.

[Galloism]

Hey man, if ol' Booker gets a pass for slapping shit licenses on stuff why not do it to voting too?

One man, one vote is very important

As is the right to bear arms. And the right to freedom of speech, freedom of protest, freedom of assembly, and yes the right to vote.

All of these are guaranteed rights under the constitution. Let's stop shitting on them.

[San Lumen]

This, on the other hand, is something I vehemently disagree with. Everyone should have one vote - no more, no less.

Sure, but if it's okay to put a license requirement on a constitutionally protected right what's really the problem with a voter ID?

Not saying you support the former, tis just a thought experiment really.

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. if you really want voter ID you should be provided a free ID when you register which is what Canada does.

[San Lumen]

One man, one vote is very important

As is the right to bear arms. And the right to freedom of speech, freedom of protest, freedom of assembly, and yes the right to vote.

All of these are guaranteed rights under the constitution. Let's stop shitting on them.

You do not have a right to any and all firearms

[Telconi]

Hey man, if ol' Booker gets a pass for slapping shit licenses on stuff why not do it to voting too?

One man, one vote is very important

Almost as important as unrestricted firearms ownership.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

This, on the other hand, is something I vehemently disagree with. Everyone should have one vote - no more, no less.

Sure, but if it's okay to put a license requirement on a constitutionally protected right what's really the problem with a voter ID?

Not saying you support the former, tis just a thought experiment really.

I don't have a problem with voter ID as a concept, I have a problem with it when it's being used as a weapon against the political opposition.

[Galloism]

This, on the other hand, is something I vehemently disagree with. Everyone should have one vote - no more, no less.

Sure, but if it's okay to put a license requirement on a constitutionally protected right what's really the problem with a voter ID?

Not saying you support the former, tis just a thought experiment really.

It's not even ID. To be equivalent to Booker's plan, you could require a person take a civics class and get a license to vote, and if they don't maintain the terms of that license it's revoked.

You could also pull the right to vote from people who have been convicted of no crime but are on some kind of watchlist.

[Valrifell]

One man, one vote is very important

Almost as important as unrestricted firearms ownership.

That's hilarious. Viewing all of your posts as ironic really improves them 1000%, I understand everything now.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

One man, one vote is very important

Almost as important as unrestricted firearms ownership.

^{[citation needed]}

[Telconi]

Almost as important as unrestricted firearms ownership.

That's hilarious. Viewing all of your posts as ironic really improves them 1000%, I understand everything now.

Human rights are serious business my man.

[San Lumen]

One man, one vote is very important

Almost as important as unrestricted firearms ownership.

yeah but you'd be willing to have rigged elections to ensure that. You dont have right to any and all firearms. Not even conservative justices have said you have a right to a bazooka or AK-47.

[Galloism]

As is the right to bear arms. And the right to freedom of speech, freedom of protest, freedom of assembly, and yes the right to vote.

All of these are guaranteed rights under the constitution. Let's stop shitting on them.

You do not have a right to any and all firearms

I mean, you don't have the right to vote in any and all elections either.

But if you say stripped people of the right to vote in federal elections without taking a civics class and getting a license we'd probably call foul.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Sure, but if it's okay to put a license requirement on a constitutionally protected right what's really the problem with a voter ID?

Not saying you support the former, tis just a thought experiment really.

It's not even ID. To be equivalent to Booker's plan, you could require a person take a civics class and get a license to vote, and if they don't maintain the terms of that license it's revoked.

You could also pull the right to vote from people who have been convicted of no crime but are on some kind of watchlist.

Man, it sounds really fucking awful when you put it like that. Jeez.

[San Lumen]

Sure, but if it's okay to put a license requirement on a constitutionally protected right what's really the problem with a voter ID?

Not saying you support the former, tis just a thought experiment really.

It's not even ID. To be equivalent to Booker's plan, you could require a person take a civics class and get a license to vote, and if they don't maintain the terms of that license it's revoked.

You could also pull the right to vote from people who have been convicted of no crime but are on some kind of watchlist.

Yeah lets not. We had literacy tests and they were made to be nearly impossible to pass.

[Galloism]

It's not even ID. To be equivalent to Booker's plan, you could require a person take a civics class and get a license to vote, and if they don't maintain the terms of that license it's revoked.

You could also pull the right to vote from people who have been convicted of no crime but are on some kind of watchlist.

Man, it sounds really fucking awful when you put it like that. Jeez.

Being fair, we actually used to do that. Unironically.

We still could if we overturned the voting rights act. Supreme Court specifically ruled they were constitutional in 1959. It was only the voting rights act that killed them.

[San Lumen]

You do not have a right to any and all firearms

I mean, you don't have the right to vote in any and all elections either.

But if you say stripped people of the right to vote in federal elections without taking a civics class and getting a license we'd probably call foul.

if your 18 and a citizen and not incarnated you do have that right

[Telconi]

Almost as important as unrestricted firearms ownership.

yeah but you'd be willing to have rigged elections to ensure that. You dont have right to any and all firearms. Not even conservative justices have said you have a right to a bazooka or AK-47.

Yes, I'm willing to sacrifice a lesser value to defend a greater, that's normal, rational, cost benefit analysis. I disagree. So? Justices spent decades defending white people's right to own black people, abolitionists still weren't wrong.

[Galloism]

It's not even ID. To be equivalent to Booker's plan, you could require a person take a civics class and get a license to vote, and if they don't maintain the terms of that license it's revoked.

You could also pull the right to vote from people who have been convicted of no crime but are on some kind of watchlist.

Yeah lets not. We had literacy tests and they were made to be nearly impossible to pass.

Oh really?

[Galloism]

I mean, you don't have the right to vote in any and all elections either.

But if you say stripped people of the right to vote in federal elections without taking a civics class and getting a license we'd probably call foul.

if your 18 and a citizen and not incarnated you do have that right

You do not. If you do not live in California, you cannot vote in California elections.

Also, many states disenfranchise felons even after release. This is constitutional.

[Valrifell]

Yeah lets not. We had literacy tests and they were made to be nearly impossible to pass.

Oh really?

Mmm, an oldie but a goodie.

[Telconi]

if your 18 and a citizen and not incarnated you do have that right

You do not. If you do not live in California, you cannot vote in California elections.

I do live in California and can't vote in the Democratic primary for California.

[Valrifell]

You do not. If you do not live in California, you cannot vote in California elections.

I do live in California and can't vote in the Democratic primary for California.

Well, you could if you could manage to register as a Democrat without bursting into flames or vomiting.