2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Telconi]

How could you do that?

Ideas floated:

Term limits, rotating from the appelate court, ten appointees and five chosen unanimously from the previous ten.

The best part is any reform doesn't need bother the Constitution, since the supreme authority with establishing the courts lies with Congress. They'd just need a new Judiciary Act.

None of these will depoliticize the court, you'll just stir it up so the political bend changes more rapidly at best.

[Valrifell]

Ideas floated:

Term limits, rotating from the appelate court, ten appointees and five chosen unanimously from the previous ten.

The best part is any reform doesn't need bother the Constitution, since the supreme authority with establishing the courts lies with Congress. They'd just need a new Judiciary Act.

None of these will depoliticize the court, you'll just stir it up so the political bend changes more rapidly at best.

I invite you to actually deconstruct why all of them are non-solutions instead of just saying it.

[Zurkerx]

How could you do that?

Ideas floated:

Term limits, rotating from the appelate court, ten appointees and five chosen unanimously from the previous ten.

The best part is any reform doesn't need bother the Constitution, since the supreme authority with establishing the courts lies with Congress. They'd just need a new Judiciary Act.

An age limit sounds ideal (like to 75-80), but if ten of those appointees are done by the same President, than more likely than not, those five Justices will pick five people similar to their ideals. Of course, that's far from likely but would all ten have to reach unanimous consent now? That could reduce the politicizing at least. Any nomination in the Senate should meet a 60 vote threshold, you know, like the old days...

[Telconi]

None of these will depoliticize the court, you'll just stir it up so the political bend changes more rapidly at best.

I invite you to actually deconstruct why all of them are non-solutions instead of just saying it.

The court continues to consist of people. Not robots, or legal analysis computers, or beings of divine impartiality.

[Valrifell]

I invite you to actually deconstruct why all of them are non-solutions instead of just saying it.

The court continues to consist of people. Not robots, or legal analysis computers, or beings of divine impartiality.

Okay, so you can't.

[Telconi]

The court continues to consist of people. Not robots, or legal analysis computers, or beings of divine impartiality.

Okay, so you can't.

As proven by me doing so.

[Valrifell]

Okay, so you can't.

As proven by me doing so.

So I never actually said that it's possible to be perfect in that way, but that the solutions would make it less worse than it is. You're the only one arguing with standards of perfection and not standards of improvement.

I understand that you prefer the status quo because Democrats are literally evil or whatever, but you could at least try to engage the point and not around it.

[Telconi]

As proven by me doing so.

So I never actually said that it's possible to be perfect in that way, but that the solutions would make it less worse than it is. You're the only one arguing with standards of perfection and not standards of improvement.

I understand that you prefer the status quo because Democrats are literally evil or whatever, but you could at least try to engage the point and not around it.

Mixing up the shit doesn't make it less shit. It makes it more homogeneous shit.

Also, yes, I totally prefer the status quo.

[Valrifell]

So I never actually said that it's possible to be perfect in that way, but that the solutions would make it less worse than it is. You're the only one arguing with standards of perfection and not standards of improvement.

I understand that you prefer the status quo because Democrats are literally evil or whatever, but you could at least try to engage the point and not around it.

Mixing up the shit doesn't make it less shit. It makes it more homogeneous shit.

Also, yes, I totally prefer the status quo.

Again I ask you for specific objections as to why it wouldn't fix the problem that aren't some innane nihilistic "everyone deep down stucks, maaan" but, I mean, you can't.

[Telconi]

Mixing up the shit doesn't make it less shit. It makes it more homogeneous shit.

Also, yes, I totally prefer the status quo.

Again I ask you for specific objections as to why it wouldn't fix the problem that aren't some innane nihilistic "everyone deep down stucks, maaan" but, I mean, you can't.

How will having a term limit make people less biased? How will there being more people make any of them less biased. Judges' decisions are products of their views and beliefs, and they will continue having views and beliefs no matter how you monkey around with the selection process.

[Cannot think of a name]

Mixing up the shit doesn't make it less shit. It makes it more homogeneous shit.

Also, yes, I totally prefer the status quo.

Again I ask you for specific objections as to why it wouldn't fix the problem that aren't some innane nihilistic "everyone deep down stucks, maaan" but, I mean, you can't.

You can't get blood from stone.

[Gormwood]

Tucker Carlson is horny on main

He likes his men like he likes his stew.

Thick and meaty?

[Arlenton]

Mitch McConnell has launched his 2020 reelection campaign. As usual, his campaign is killing it with trolling. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/17/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-site-mocks-blocking-merrick-garland/3496760002/

[Telconi]

Mitch McConnell has launched his 2020 reelection campaign. As usual, his campaign is killing it with trolling. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/17/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-site-mocks-blocking-merrick-garland/3496760002/

[Impaled Nazarene]

Mitch McConnell has launched his 2020 reelection campaign. As usual, his campaign is killing it with trolling. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/17/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-site-mocks-blocking-merrick-garland/3496760002/

Biggest gamble payout in modern US history. I would applaud him if he weren't robbing Kentucky blind.

[Valrifell]

Mitch McConnell has launched his 2020 reelection campaign. As usual, his campaign is killing it with trolling. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/17/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-site-mocks-blocking-merrick-garland/3496760002/

McConnell is more threat to the US' institutional stability than Donald Trump could ever dream of being.

[Tarsonis]

Mitch McConnell has launched his 2020 reelection campaign. As usual, his campaign is killing it with trolling. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/17/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-site-mocks-blocking-merrick-garland/3496760002/

McConnell is more threat to the US' institutional stability than Donald Trump could ever dream of being.

Oh boo hoo. You lost that one, get over it.

[Cannot think of a name]

McConnell is more threat to the US' institutional stability than Donald Trump could ever dream of being.

Oh boo hoo. You lost that one, get over it.

When we start treating the governance of the nation like a pick up basketball game...

[Valrifell]

McConnell is more threat to the US' institutional stability than Donald Trump could ever dream of being.

Oh boo hoo. You lost that one, get over it.

Why do you hate the American Republic?

[Telconi]

Oh boo hoo. You lost that one, get over it.

Why do you hate the American Republic?

Working for the betterment of things means you hate them.

[Valrifell]

Again I ask you for specific objections as to why it wouldn't fix the problem that aren't some innane nihilistic "everyone deep down stucks, maaan" but, I mean, you can't.

How will having a term limit make people less biased? How will there being more people make any of them less biased. Judges' decisions are products of their views and beliefs, and they will continue having views and beliefs no matter how you monkey around with the selection process.

You continue to miss the point. How sad.

[Valrifell]

Why do you hate the American Republic?

Working for the betterment of things means you hate them.

Destroying Senate norms (beyond the court stuff) isn't beneficial to the strength of the Republic. Then again, the strength of the Republic isn't beneficial to your interests, so I can understand why you'd not like that.

[Telconi]

Working for the betterment of things means you hate them.

Destroying Senate norms (beyond the court stuff) isn't beneficial to the strength of the Republic. Then again, the strength of the Republic isn't beneficial to your interests, so I can understand why you'd not like that.

You do understand that benefit was gained at the cost of those norms right? On the contrary a stable and strong nation is generally a good thing.

[Major-Tom]

Mitch McConnell has launched his 2020 reelection campaign. As usual, his campaign is killing it with trolling. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/17/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-site-mocks-blocking-merrick-garland/3496760002/

"He's a self-serving, corrupt piece of crap whose only goal is to push an agenda that only works for a limited number of Americans in order to line his own pockets ...... but hey, he's funny sometimes! What a goof!"

[Valrifell]

Destroying Senate norms (beyond the court stuff) isn't beneficial to the strength of the Republic. Then again, the strength of the Republic isn't beneficial to your interests, so I can understand why you'd not like that.

You do understand that benefit was gained at the cost of those norms right? On the contrary a stable and strong nation is generally a good thing.

"Destroying centuries' old norms and procedures in the Senate will make the country more stable"

???