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Which Candidate do you support?

Bernie
102
33%
Beto
3
1%
Biden
15
5%
Buttigieg
27
9%
Harris
4
1%
Warren
17
6%
Yang
24
8%
Trump
88
29%
Weld
3
1%
Other
25
8%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Far Easter Republic » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:32 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Far Easter Republic wrote:The analogy is the next step they will fall to a splattery death.

That's a terrible analogy. There are plenty of ways down into the Grand Canyon, people take them every day.

Wait, actually, that's a great analogy. Going to the Grand Canyon is a perfectly enjoyable thing people are capable of doing on a regular basis and there's people jumping up and down and screaming, "YOU'RE GOING TO FALL TO YOUR DOOOOOOOM!" while everyone else wonders what they're on about, they're just going to take this sweet donkey ride and dig all the natural beauty.

I mean like jumping off the edge.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:37 pm

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Thankfully, it's very, very, very unlikely.



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Postby South Odreria » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:02 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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Why is it ageist? Do you have no concerns about a president dying in office?


The appropriate safeguards are already in place for that not to be a catastrophe.


Tell that to Sarah Palin
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:19 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
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I'm interested, but that would be off-topic.

nothings off topic in politics like just yesterday a video played by cbs evening news showed that beto somehow tried to shoehorn trump into what happened in Christchurch and then try to blame him for a fire bombing of a mosque right after he issued the travel ban. so he's helping the Democratic candidates by digging their hole deeper and deeper while several others are shooting themselves in the foot.


Sad part is that Beto O'Rourke actually takes himself seriously. Can you imagine a Donald Trump-Beto O'Rourke match up? Eeek.

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Postby Ngelmish » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:33 pm

Tyrassueb wrote:As per Google

Ageist - Adjective & Noun
Adjective: Characterized by or showing prejudice or discrimination on the grounds of a person's age. "A lot of ageist jokes about not being able to use technology"
Noun: a person with ageist views. "Critics who contend that her age is an issue have been dismissed as ageists who are out of touch with the times"


Do I have concerns about Bernie dying in office? No more so than any other president. We've only had 2 presidents die in office of natural causes (Harrison and Roosevelt) but 4 died of assassination (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy). And Bernie shows that he is still active and sound of mind, having stuck to his guns for what? 40 some years and still pounding out the same rhetoric? Dude has more energy than me even - I get worn out just walking a few blocks to turn in books at my local library, Bernie does something like 17 campaign stops in 15 states in around that same number of days or so. I can barely even stomach flying, letting alone being on a plane cross country repeatedly for two weeks (and more, considering he was pinballing around before and after those stops).

But trying to use age as a disqualifier beyond that established in the US Constitution is ageist.


Zachary Taylor and Warren Harding also died of natural causes (both of whom, coincidentally, had atrocious VPs). Regardless, ageism isn't an irrelevant metric by which to say, maybe Bernie Sanders isn't the best candidate for this position... Unless, what you're really up to is shooting any and all criticism of Sanders down as illegitimate, somehow, to begin with.

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Postby Free African Union » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:57 pm

None of these people would fix the problems in society, though I will probably vote for either Sanders or Yang simply to remove Trump from office.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:26 pm

Buttigieg honestly made one of the most presidential statements after the event in New Zealand.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:01 pm

Far Easter Republic wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:That's a terrible analogy. There are plenty of ways down into the Grand Canyon, people take them every day.

Wait, actually, that's a great analogy. Going to the Grand Canyon is a perfectly enjoyable thing people are capable of doing on a regular basis and there's people jumping up and down and screaming, "YOU'RE GOING TO FALL TO YOUR DOOOOOOOM!" while everyone else wonders what they're on about, they're just going to take this sweet donkey ride and dig all the natural beauty.

I mean like jumping off the edge.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:16 pm

Free African Union wrote:None of these people would fix the problems in society, though I will probably vote for either Sanders or Yang simply to remove Trump from office.


Yang is being backed and bolstered by alt-right elements, just sayin’...most likely to attempt to split the vote.

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Postby Blargoblarg » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:19 pm

Tyrassueb wrote:As per Google

Ageist - Adjective & Noun
Adjective: Characterized by or showing prejudice or discrimination on the grounds of a person's age. "A lot of ageist jokes about not being able to use technology"
Noun: a person with ageist views. "Critics who contend that her age is an issue have been dismissed as ageists who are out of touch with the times"


Do I have concerns about Bernie dying in office? No more so than any other president. We've only had 2 presidents die in office of natural causes (Harrison and Roosevelt) but 4 died of assassination (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy). And Bernie shows that he is still active and sound of mind, having stuck to his guns for what? 40 some years and still pounding out the same rhetoric? Dude has more energy than me even - I get worn out just walking a few blocks to turn in books at my local library, Bernie does something like 17 campaign stops in 15 states in around that same number of days or so. I can barely even stomach flying, letting alone being on a plane cross country repeatedly for two weeks (and more, considering he was pinballing around before and after those stops).

But trying to use age as a disqualifier beyond that established in the US Constitution is ageist.

Bernie cut his head on the edge of a glass shower door yesterday, got seven stitches at a walk-in clinic, and he's still going to all his scheduled campaign events. I'm not sure I'd be able to do all the events and travelling he does, especially after a cut to the head like that, and I'm 30.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:28 pm

Blargoblarg wrote:
Tyrassueb wrote:As per Google



Do I have concerns about Bernie dying in office? No more so than any other president. We've only had 2 presidents die in office of natural causes (Harrison and Roosevelt) but 4 died of assassination (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy). And Bernie shows that he is still active and sound of mind, having stuck to his guns for what? 40 some years and still pounding out the same rhetoric? Dude has more energy than me even - I get worn out just walking a few blocks to turn in books at my local library, Bernie does something like 17 campaign stops in 15 states in around that same number of days or so. I can barely even stomach flying, letting alone being on a plane cross country repeatedly for two weeks (and more, considering he was pinballing around before and after those stops).

But trying to use age as a disqualifier beyond that established in the US Constitution is ageist.

Bernie cut his head on the edge of a glass shower door yesterday, got seven stitches at a walk-in clinic, and he's still going to all his scheduled campaign events. I'm not sure I'd be able to do all the events and travelling he does, especially after a cut to the head like that, and I'm 30.
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Ol’ Bernie seems to be one of those "Why won’t you DIE!?" (you must read this with Raiden’s voice) old people that will literally outmaneuver death everytime.

My own grandmother is the same type of tough cookie, albeit it is finally catching up to her.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:47 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Ol’ Bernie seems to be one of those "Why won’t you DIE!?" (you must read this with Raiden’s voice) old people that will literally outmaneuver death everytime.

My own grandmother is the same type of tough cookie, albeit it is finally catching up to her.

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Bernie Antichrist conspiracies start acting up due to the mark on his head and head wound bible passages.


Welp, there goes my pick of someone who's just a socialist and not a possible antichrist candidate.

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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:59 am

2021 cant come fast enough. Will be so happy when Trump gets the bums rush.
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Postby Free African Union » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:54 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Free African Union wrote:None of these people would fix the problems in society, though I will probably vote for either Sanders or Yang simply to remove Trump from office.


Yang is being backed and bolstered by alt-right elements, just sayin’...most likely to attempt to split the vote.

I'm aware but Yang isn't alt-right. He's bourgeois capitalist, but he is the only person taking the impacts of widespread automation seriously and how to help people. He's far from perfect; none of them are exactly the kind of person I'd want in the White House but Trump needs to go.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:50 am

Mystic Warriors wrote:2021 cant come fast enough. Will be so happy when Trump gets the bums rush.


I am hoping he pulls a Reagan-esque landslide.
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Postby Bahktar » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:55 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:2021 cant come fast enough. Will be so happy when Trump gets the bums rush.


I am hoping he pulls a Reagan-esque landslide.


I don't think it can even happen in any of the wildest dreams for anyone, ever.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:09 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:2021 cant come fast enough. Will be so happy when Trump gets the bums rush.


I am hoping he pulls a Reagan-esque landslide.


With how he's been polling? That's not going to happen outside of your fantasy world.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I am hoping he pulls a Reagan-esque landslide.


With how he's been polling? That's not going to happen outside of your fantasy world.


Note I said I hope, not he will.

Still, he's better than any opposition declared so far.
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Postby Bahktar » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:19 am

Big Jim P wrote:
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With how he's been polling? That's not going to happen outside of your fantasy world.


Note I said I hope, not he will.

Still, he's better than any opposition declared so far.


How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:21 am

Bahktar wrote:How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:21 am

Bahktar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Note I said I hope, not he will.

Still, he's better than any opposition declared so far.


How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?


Raised taxes on the proletariat to fund tax breaks for the 1%? Buggered American manufacturing under the pretence of protecting it?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:23 am

Corrian wrote:Buttigieg honestly made one of the most presidential statements after the event in New Zealand.


He also called it like it was when he said "white nationalism kills"
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:54 am

Vassenor wrote:
Bahktar wrote:
How is he better than any opposition? What great things has he accomplished in his term so far?


Raised taxes on the proletariat to fund tax breaks for the 1%? Buggered American manufacturing under the pretence of protecting it?


Most received tax breaks.

The economy is doing great, unemployment is at record lows, there are more jobs than people to fill them. Your (and the lefts in general) pig-headed refusal to acknowledge this due to your hate-boners doesn't make the facts go away.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:01 am

After exploring for god knows how long, Senator Gillibrand officially announces she's running. I honestly don't see her getting the nomination.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:17 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Raised taxes on the proletariat to fund tax breaks for the 1%? Buggered American manufacturing under the pretence of protecting it?


Most received tax breaks.

The economy is doing great, unemployment is at record lows, there are more jobs than people to fill them. Your (and the lefts in general) pig-headed refusal to acknowledge this due to your hate-boners doesn't make the facts go away.


The extent to which the President can be considered directly responsible for the economy is hotly debatable at best.
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