2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Talvezout]

If Biden does end up running, does he have a realistic chance of getting the nomination?

[Talvezout]

On another note, what do y'all think of Hickenlooper? If he performs well in the primaries, I could see him as a formidable opponent for Trump.

I think he could do well too. I mean, he could appeal to the more Midwestern states which would help the Dems a great ton

[Zurkerx]

it's bernie time

Feasibly, I don't see him expanding beyond his core base this time around. I feel that with Bernie, he has his unflappable and enthusiastic supporters, and a number of Democrats who respect him, but would be hesitant to support him in the primaries for a multitude of reasons.

I'm inclined to think that the latter group may support other candidates as first choices, whether they're progressives or centrists, before they opt for Bernie.

That said, I'd argue that if Bernie were to win the primaries, he'd have a fighting change in the general, so long as he sticks to his popular talking points (IE inequality reduction, affordable healthcare, fighting for the working class etc etc).

Bernie was successful the last go around because it was literally him and Clinton after the Iowa Caucuses; there was no other choices. There's more choices now and that'll hurt him. Even if he gets the nomination, I have this feeling Trump will be able to paint the Socialist Mascara all over him.

On another note, what do y'all think of Hickenlooper? If he performs well in the primaries, I could see him as a formidable opponent for Trump.

He's apparently described as low energy and someone that may not appeal to the current Democratic Party. But I could be wrong.

Also, in other news, DNC rejects Fox News to host any of the Democratic Debates

I'm quite torn on this. On one hand, Fox is apparently in bed with Trump and acts like a propaganda machine. On the other, I feel this will give Conservatives ample evidence that the Democrats are "suppressing" them and have no respect for the other side. Not to mention, they would accuse the other side of being in bed with the "Liberal Media". I wouldn't mind if Fox Hosts like Brett Baier or Chris Wallace hosts a debate, but others I would be skeptical of.

[Genivaria]

it's bernie time

Feasibly, I don't see him expanding beyond his core base this time around. I feel that with Bernie, he has his unflappable and enthusiastic supporters, and a number of Democrats who respect him, but would be hesitant to support him in the primaries for a multitude of reasons.

I'm inclined to think that the latter group may support other candidates as first choices, whether they're progressives or centrists, before they opt for Bernie.

That said, I'd argue that if Bernie were to win the primaries, he'd have a fighting change in the general, so long as he sticks to his popular talking points (IE inequality reduction, affordable healthcare, fighting for the working class etc etc).

I just want someone like Bernie to get their foot in the door ONCE and get that brand of leftism to be mainstream.
Then maybe we can diversify a little and force the Republicans to have a branch similar to Christian Democrat parties in Europe.

I'm tired of 'fucking over the working class' being one of the few bipartisan positions.

[Ifreann]

Any banning of meat products will make the American civil war look like a walk in a park with sheer amount of instability it would bring.

Facts. The day someone tries to get rid of my chicken is the day I start a car bombing campaign.

Cars will be banned too. Checkmate, liberals.

[Gig em Aggies]

Facts. The day someone tries to get rid of my chicken is the day I start a car bombing campaign.

Cars will be banned too. Checkmate, liberals.

well we cant rely on horses for transport either so they have to banned as well since they to fart and expel co2 might as well ban all animals oh and people too.

[Ifreann]

Cars will be banned too. Checkmate, liberals.

well we cant rely on horses for transport either so they have to banned as well since they to fart and expel co2 might as well ban all animals oh and people too.

Yes. We're all going to be uploaded into a green energy powered computer. It'll be great.

[Gig em Aggies]

well we cant rely on horses for transport either so they have to banned as well since they to fart and expel co2 might as well ban all animals oh and people too.

Yes. We're all going to be uploaded into a green energy powered computer. It'll be great.

Mr.Anderson I see your not being eco friendly prepare to be deleted in 5...4...3...2...1

[Thermodolia]

So it seems that Biden is gearing up to run

[Republic of Penguinian Astronautia]

My politics are based around who will get us to a unified, space colonizing earth the fastest

[Cannot think of a name]

My politics are based around who will get us to a unified, space colonizing earth the fastest

If we were somehow able to develop the technology to colonize space, it would be easier and more effective to use that technology to preserve the Earth. Therefore, if you want to colonize space, work hard on Earth problems and then they can be used to make space livable.

[Uxupox]

My politics are based around who will get us to a unified, space colonizing earth the fastest

If we were somehow able to develop the technology to colonize space, it would be easier and more effective to use that technology to preserve the Earth. Therefore, if you want to colonize space, work hard on Earth problems and then they can be used to make space livable.

No thanks. I rather we get off this blasted rock.

[The United Territories of Providence]

I don’t mean to rehash anything that might’ve already been said. I’ve been gone for two years. But is the left really fine with Tulsi supporting right-wing hindu nationalism because she supports Medicare for All? Because I’ve honestly never seen her appeal but I’d like to understand it because it seems counterintuitive to the states goals of people on the left. Even when I voted for Bernie in ‘16 and she left the DNC in protest of DWS...I really still don’t get why the left likes her more than Warren for example. Sorry if this is a non-sequitur, again I’m out of the loop

[Western Vale Confederacy]

My politics are based around who will get us to a unified, space colonizing earth the fastest

If we were somehow able to develop the technology to colonize space, it would be easier and more effective to use that technology to preserve the Earth. Therefore, if you want to colonize space, work hard on Earth problems and then they can be used to make space livable.

And then a giant space rock magically appears from outer space, yeets itself into the Earth and causes the entirety of humanity’s efforts to disappear in a split second.

[Blargoblarg]

If we were somehow able to develop the technology to colonize space, it would be easier and more effective to use that technology to preserve the Earth. Therefore, if you want to colonize space, work hard on Earth problems and then they can be used to make space livable.

And then a giant space rock magically appears from outer space, yeets itself into the Earth and causes the entirety of humanity’s efforts to disappear in a split second.

This is why we should all support Giant Meteor for president in 2020. It will end all of humanity's problems within the first few minutes of arriving at Earth.

[Far Easter Republic]

There already so far left the might as well be at the edge of the Grand Canyon. Biden is there best shot. Bernie will be close but no cigar and Kamala would be wasting time.

Luckily, the Grand Canyon is only about 2/3s of the way through America. We're going all the way to the W E S T C O A S T

The analogy is the next step they will fall to a splattery death.

[Pasong Tirad]

And then a giant space rock magically appears from outer space, yeets itself into the Earth and causes the entirety of humanity’s efforts to disappear in a split second.

This is why we should all support Giant Meteor for president in 2020. It will end all of humanity's problems within the first few minutes of arriving at Earth.

Nonsense! Cthulhu For America 2020!

“I’m running for president because I want Americans to do more than just get by — I want you to get a head and consume it for nourishment.”

[Cannot think of a name]

Luckily, the Grand Canyon is only about 2/3s of the way through America. We're going all the way to the W E S T C O A S T

The analogy is the next step they will fall to a splattery death.

That's a terrible analogy. There are plenty of ways down into the Grand Canyon, people take them every day.

Wait, actually, that's a great analogy. Going to the Grand Canyon is a perfectly enjoyable thing people are capable of doing on a regular basis and there's people jumping up and down and screaming, "YOU'RE GOING TO FALL TO YOUR DOOOOOOOM!" while everyone else wonders what they're on about, they're just going to take this sweet donkey ride and dig all the natural beauty.

[Port Jefferson]

There is no disputing it. It is happening. The media has done it. AOC gets a lot more attention than Pelosi.

How are they going to lose? It is too early to say that will happen....but the chips are in Trumps corner right now.

I have already gone into the reasons why AOC being the de facto party leader will help them lose. Socialism, New Green Deal, Anti-semitism (she is defending Omar), and I am sure AOC will provide more fodder in the upcoming months. These are going to be talked about many times between now and November 2020.

Socialism is popular, the Green New Deal is popular, and Ilhan Omar did nothing wrong.

When you start breaking it down, it becomes less and less popular. Start talking about the financials and support is all but gone.

If Omar did nothing wrong, then why did the Democrats introduce the resolution? By holding off the vote, they set a double-standard.

[South Odreria]

Feasibly, I don't see him expanding beyond his core base this time around. I feel that with Bernie, he has his unflappable and enthusiastic supporters, and a number of Democrats who respect him, but would be hesitant to support him in the primaries for a multitude of reasons.

I'm inclined to think that the latter group may support other candidates as first choices, whether they're progressives or centrists, before they opt for Bernie.

That said, I'd argue that if Bernie were to win the primaries, he'd have a fighting change in the general, so long as he sticks to his popular talking points (IE inequality reduction, affordable healthcare, fighting for the working class etc etc).

I just want someone like Bernie to get their foot in the door ONCE and get that brand of leftism to be mainstream.
Then maybe we can diversify a little and force the Republicans to have a branch similar to Christian Democrat parties in Europe.

I'm tired of 'fucking over the working class' being one of the few bipartisan positions.

THIS.
If the Republicans became like the Christian Democrats I would probably vote for them sometimes. But for that to happen we need the one and only Bernie Sanders.

[Genivaria]

THIS.
If the Republicans became like the Christian Democrats I would probably vote for them sometimes. But for that to happen we need the one and only Bernie Sanders.

YES I AGREE OH MY GOD!

....I would be uncomfortable though being in a party with people who were pretty vitriolic, with a good deal of racists and bigots. Bigots as in, anti-muslim.

I'm a hardcore Christian but hardcore believer in religious liberty.

Two big things are needed though. Radical Campaign Finance Reform as well as Electoral Reform.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I just want someone like Bernie to get their foot in the door ONCE and get that brand of leftism to be mainstream.
Then maybe we can diversify a little and force the Republicans to have a branch similar to Christian Democrat parties in Europe.

I'm tired of 'fucking over the working class' being one of the few bipartisan positions.

THIS.
If the Republicans became like the Christian Democrats I would probably vote for them sometimes. But for that to happen we need the one and only Bernie Sanders.

Y’know, the Republicans reforming into modern Christian Democrats would save their arse big time.

[Genivaria]

THIS.
If the Republicans became like the Christian Democrats I would probably vote for them sometimes. But for that to happen we need the one and only Bernie Sanders.

Y’know, the Republicans reforming into modern Christian Democrats would save their arse big time.

"B-but that's communism!"

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Y’know, the Republicans reforming into modern Christian Democrats would save their arse big time.

"B-but that's communism!"

The Republicans need to cease thine Cold War-era communalist-hating faggolatry and actually start building a sustainable platform based around, y’know, a political ideology that is surprisingly durable even to this day.

[Ifreann]

Socialism is popular, the Green New Deal is popular, and Ilhan Omar did nothing wrong.

When you start breaking it down, it becomes less and less popular. Start talking about the financials and support is all but gone.

Yeah, start telling people that all this evil socialism will be coming out of the pockets of Jeff Amazon and Tim Apple and they'll lose interest quickly.

If Omar did nothing wrong, then why did the Democrats introduce the resolution?

To appease AIPAC.