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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:11 pm

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Its less you and more NSG.

Bruh... NSG has been toxic forever. Remember Soviet mongol? He tried to argue with ME, a black person, over if black people could be racist. I lost it at him.


Black people CAN be racist, though..

Hell, even among themselves (an excellent example would be the Americo-Liberians and the various native Liberians).

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Postby The South Falls » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:11 pm

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The South Falls wrote:Bruh... NSG has been toxic forever. Remember Soviet mongol? He tried to argue with ME, a black person, over if black people could be racist. I lost it at him.


youre black?

Yea, read my sig. I'm different off here, swear.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:12 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Loben wrote:
Its less you and more NSG.


But it's still irrelevant to this thread. No one here argued that all Republicans are bad.

Just wait for it. They'll trickle in. Usually its Tobleste, Myrensis, or Liriena.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:12 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Bruh... NSG has been toxic forever. Remember Soviet mongol? He tried to argue with ME, a black person, over if black people could be racist. I lost it at him.


Black people CAN be racist, though..

Hell, even among themselves (an excellent example would be the Americo-Liberians and the various native Liberians).

No. he said black people couldn't be racist.
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Postby Loben » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:13 pm

The South Falls wrote:
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youre black?

Yea, read my sig. I'm different off here, swear.


Deadass.

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Postby The South Falls » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:15 pm

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The South Falls wrote:Yea, read my sig. I'm different off here, swear.


Deadass.

Yea... it's honestly just me an ElAmin, as I've found out.
Btw, I'm 100%. I ain't no 1/64th woahvicky ass bitch
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Postby Loben » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:15 pm

The South Falls wrote:
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Deadass.

Yea... it's honestly just me an ElAmin, as I've found out.
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....

what.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:16 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Great Winminster wrote:This people are caricatures of themselves.

Am I going to have to explain to everyone that this was two people?

Plus it's super duper early and these polls will all change and we should have a more accurate indicator once the actual primaries and caucasus begin.
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Postby Great Winminster » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:17 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Great Winminster wrote:This people are caricatures of themselves.

Am I going to have to explain to everyone that this was two people?

I was talking about those people mentioned in the article that are "concerned with the lack of diversity". I obviously understand that not all democrats are like this.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:18 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Black people CAN be racist, though..

Hell, even among themselves (an excellent example would be the Americo-Liberians and the various native Liberians).

No. he said black people couldn't be racist.


A non-black (presumably white) person telling a black person that black people can't be racist despite the black person disagreeing...

Excuse me, what the fuck? Are they this woke that they are going full 360 and being racist?

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Postby The South Falls » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:19 pm

Loben wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Yea... it's honestly just me an ElAmin, as I've found out.
Btw, I'm 100%. I ain't no woahvicky ass bitch


....

what.

Sorry, lost coherence. I'm not woahvicky. Just needed to let everyone know.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:20 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The South Falls wrote:No. he said black people couldn't be racist.


A non-black (presumably white) person telling a black person that black people can't be racist despite the black person disagreeing...

Excuse me, what the fuck? Are they this woke that they are going full 360 and being racist?

He was pulling some Olympic mental gymnastics.
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Postby Loben » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:20 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Loben wrote:
....

what.

Sorry, lost coherence. I'm not woahvicky. Just needed to let everyone know.


good.

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Postby The South Falls » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:20 pm

Great Winminster wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Am I going to have to explain to everyone that this was two people?

I was talking about those people mentioned in the article that are "concerned with the lack of diversity". I obviously understand that not all democrats are like this.

Alright. That's great. And with that being the case, you're correct.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:22 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
A non-black (presumably white) person telling a black person that black people can't be racist despite the black person disagreeing...

Excuse me, what the fuck? Are they this woke that they are going full 360 and being racist?

He was pulling some Olympic mental gymnastics.


*looks at Rwanda, Liberia, South Africa and Zimbabwe*

...Nah bro, clearly it's the whiteys.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:23 pm

I mean... does it matter?

If that's what will give them the best chance of winning the Presidential.

I mean, it makes logical sense. USA is what, 70% white at least (not sure)? Then a white candidate will be a pretty safe pick no?

I mean, a white voter may or may not vote for a non white candidate, but they'll definitely not object to a candidate being white right?
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Postby Loben » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:23 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Great Winminster wrote:I was talking about those people mentioned in the article that are "concerned with the lack of diversity". I obviously understand that not all democrats are like this.

Alright. That's great. And with that being the case, you're correct.


its the leadership imo, they know they need a coalition of Blacks and Hispanics and white liberals.

The problem with that is you can keep the whites on with barely any effort, Hispanics vary in opinion as do black folks but need promises out the ass to keep them in line.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:30 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
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But it's still irrelevant to this thread. No one here argued that all Republicans are bad.

Just wait for it. They'll trickle in. Usually its Tobleste, Myrensis, or Liriena.

But up to this point there was no one arguing that point.

Meaning the comment that Loben made was illogical.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:34 pm

This is identity politics run amuck. I agree with the OP that this is ridiculous; this isn't going to even help the country in any way, shape or form.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:37 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The South Falls wrote:He was pulling some Olympic mental gymnastics.


*looks at Rwanda, Liberia, South Africa and Zimbabwe*

...Nah bro, clearly it's the whiteys.

Obviously. It's the white people that barely exist up there.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:40 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This is identity politics run amuck. I agree with the OP that this is ridiculous; this isn't going to even help the country in any way, shape or form.


The United States will never truly be 100% free and democratic and progressive... unless and until the USA has a sitting female (or at least, non-male), non-white, President of non conventional sexuality who practices a non Christian religion and who doesn't have a background in politics

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Postby Nova Colombian Confederation » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:44 pm

They are very disconnected from reality, isn't?. How is possible that educated politician-by-profession functionaries that have more than 50 years old may let a minority speak up like this?.

As a third-world foreigner, this makes me to prefer not touch Euro-American politics with even a 8' foot stick.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:46 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:What a shocker, the United States of America, a nation whose white population (including Hispanic and Latino people) is almost 77%, would have a majority of their representatives being white.

Only thing that is surprising is the severe lack of women in politics despite being 50% of the human population.


This.
Around 80% of the US is white. The Dems nominated a black president, so if we include this run, the last three have been 33% Black and 67% White.

Then it's on to men/women. To be sure, men are overrepresented there, 66 to 33, but having a woman there would overrepresent 66 to 33 as well, and it would do so "On the trot" rather than alternating man-woman-man-woman.

Statistically speaking, it's probably time for a white guy from the dems. Does it matter? No, policy matters, and that's why these three white men are leading the polls, because they have better policies. (Well, two of them. One is a meme.)

Minorities and women getting "represented" are going to be hamstrung by corporate dems up and deciding to artificially boost the profile of corporate democrat minorities and women and then berating people for not supporting their shitty policies on the grounds of demography. It's a tired trick that practically everybody is aware of at this point.

So practically speaking you've got white men who've been around for a while (Yes, perhaps by nature of being white men and historical privilege in this regard, though notably, one is Biden, VP to the black guy, and the other is Sanders, who lost to the white woman, which impacts that narrative a bit.) and so are household names, Beto Orourke, who is a meme because everybody hates Ted Cruz, and then a string of people who are actually the sort of individual we want to get rid of in the party (Corporatists) but who are being artificially boosted.

Difficult to get a genuine "I know, i'll run as a Representative of inner city black people because gosh darnit, they need one, and what's more, I'm a social democrat!" candidate on the ballot when all the "Black organizing" is being browbeaten into backing some corporate shill.

So when these people whine about minorities and women being represented properly, i think we should probably tell them to fuck off and let that happen from the grassroots rather than fucking it up for literally everyone, not just white guys.

The corporate dems are offering you the status quo in a new lick of paint by telling you its progress to have a woman or a minority enforcing the status quo. It is a superficial pitch to superficial people, and serves only to toxify debate.
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Postby Great Winminster » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:48 pm

Nova Colombian Confederation wrote:They are very disconnected from reality, isn't?. How is possible that educated politician-by-profession functionaries that have more than 50 years old may let a minority speak up like this?.

As a third-world foreigner, this makes me to prefer not touch Euro-American politics with even a 8' foot stick.

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