US Government Shutdown- It's Over!... For Now

[Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores]

Ya but that’s what his base is claiming.

Trump's base would claim that he was solving a drought if he let half of Florida sink into the ocean.

lol, I'm having a lol attack,

[Jebslund]

Ya know at one point I didn’t think that was possible.

I was actually quite shocked that people actually built a cult of personality around him of all people. Could this be a new form of Stockholm Syndrome?

I'm not. Rush Limbaugh's got one. Adolf Hitler and a Kim Jong Il had CoP's, too

[Des-Bal]

Why the hell did he leave it at three weeks? You can't pussy out then say "rematch, but this time you know for certain I'm not willing to go the distance."

[Thermodolia]

I was actually quite shocked that people actually built a cult of personality around him of all people. Could this be a new form of Stockholm Syndrome?

I'm not. Rush Limbaugh's got one. Adolf Hitler and a Kim Jong Il had CoP's, too

Clinton has one. I don’t think Obama had one, he had a cult of hate

[Valrifell]

Why the hell did he leave it at three weeks? You can't pussy out then say "rematch, but this time you know for certain I'm not willing to go the distance."

Like I said, I think this is the first step in Trump accepting he's not getting his wall.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Ya but that’s what his base is claiming.

Trump's base would claim that he was solving a drought if he let half of Florida sink into the ocean.

...If that was a campaign promise of his, I would vote for him.

[Thermodolia]

Trump's base would claim that he was solving a drought if he let half of Florida sink into the ocean.

...If that was a campaign promise of his, I would vote for him.

On one condition. We move his supporters to Florida before it goes under. Georgia can take what’s left

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

...If that was a campaign promise of his, I would vote for him.

On one condition. We move his supporters to Florida before it goes under. Georgia can take what’s left

Also if disney world can be an Island.

[Valrifell]

On one condition. We move his supporters to Florida before it goes under. Georgia can take what’s left

Also if disney world can be an Island.

We can airlift Disney World to a new location if need be.

[Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores]

I support and agree with most or all of President Trump's speech on secure borders, from a conservative Republican Nationalist Perspective, Trump is not the problem, the problem are the pro open borders Democrats in Congress who want easy asylum laws under any conditions and open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. The immigration issue is an international immigration issue all over the world.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I support and agree with most or all of President Trump's speech on secure borders, from a conservative Republican Nationalist Perspective, Trump is not the problem, the problem are the pro open borders Democrats in Congress who want easy asylum laws under any conditions and open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. The immigration issue is an international immigration issue all over the world.

Trump is the problem, when he shut down the government over a wall.

You know, it's strange the democrats in congress or in the senate never said they wanted open borders. In fact there negotiations where for increased funding for border security, just not an overpriced useless wall.

[Seangoli]

I support and agree with most or all of President Trump's speech on secure borders, from a conservative Republican Nationalist Perspective, Trump is not the problem, the problem are the pro open borders Democrats in Congress who want easy asylum laws under any conditions and open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. The immigration issue is an international immigration issue all over the world.

Trump is the problem, when he shut down the government over a wall.

You know, it's strange the democrats in congress or in the senate never said they wanted open borders. In fact there negotiations where for increased funding for border security, just not an overpriced useless wall.

In fact, some ofnthose provisions were for actual physical barriers as well.

The issue isn't about border security or even security barriers in specific places. The issue is that Trump wants this to be a downpayment on a 2,000 mile long wall, using as-yet to be determined scopes, and will cost an as-yet determined amount of money.

This funding he wants is not for the entire wall, its for a portion of the wall, and a small one at that with almost no details as to how the money will be spent.

The wall is a non-starter, amd should remain so. If he wants to provide propisals for specific measures in specific places, that's a dofferent story.

[Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores]

I support and agree with most or all of President Trump's speech on secure borders, from a conservative Republican Nationalist Perspective, Trump is not the problem, the problem are the pro open borders Democrats in Congress who want easy asylum laws under any conditions and open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. The immigration issue is an international immigration issue all over the world.

Trump is the problem, when he shut down the government over a wall.

You know, it's strange the democrats in congress or in the senate never said they wanted open borders. In fact there negotiations where for increased funding for border security, just not an overpriced useless wall.

lol, the Democrats don't have to specifically say they want open borders, they support loose asylum laws, remember the opposition to Trump trying to strengthen asylum laws, it amounts to the same thing, making it easier for those who don't qualify for any kind of asylum to qualify for asylum. I don't say it the nice way, but the end result is the same. The border security talk with no barriers is just talk and do nothing, lol.

Their is a fence in Hungary, their are fences and other barriers on many nations border entry check points to keep illegal persons out including Mexico. When I went to visit Niagara Falls in Canada with family and friends, two of our friends did not have the necessary legal papers to enter Canada and had too stay on the US side of the border.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Trump is the problem, when he shut down the government over a wall.

You know, it's strange the democrats in congress or in the senate never said they wanted open borders. In fact there negotiations where for increased funding for border security, just not an overpriced useless wall.

lol, the Democrats don't have to specifically say they want open borders, they support loose asylum laws, remember the opposition to Trump trying to strengthen asylum laws, it amounts to the same thing, making it easier for those who don't qualify for any kind of asylum to qualify for asylum. I don't say it the nice way, but the end result is the same. The border security talk with no barriers is just talk and do nothing, lol.

Their is a fence in Hungary, their are fences and other barriers on many nations border entry check points to keep illegal persons out including Mexico. When I went to visit Niagara Falls in Canada with family and friends, two of our friends did not have the necessary legal papers to enter Canada and had too stay on the US side of the border.

No, no it does not amount to the same thing at all.

You where attempting to visit Niagara Falls as a tourist. People applying for asylum are not tourists.

[The Black Forrest]

On one condition. We move his supporters to Florida before it goes under. Georgia can take what’s left

Also if disney world can be an Island.

Oh they failed with their last island attempt. Remember Discovery Island.

[Vassenor]

I support and agree with most or all of President Trump's speech on secure borders, from a conservative Republican Nationalist Perspective, Trump is not the problem, the problem are the pro open borders Democrats in Congress who want easy asylum laws under any conditions and open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. The immigration issue is an international immigration issue all over the world.

So basically you're against a massive strawman that has no relation to the actual Democratic position on immigration and border security.

[Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores]

lol, the Democrats don't have to specifically say they want open borders, they support loose asylum laws, remember the opposition to Trump trying to strengthen asylum laws, it amounts to the same thing, making it easier for those who don't qualify for any kind of asylum to qualify for asylum. I don't say it the nice way, but the end result is the same. The border security talk with no barriers is just talk and do nothing, lol.

Their is a fence in Hungary, their are fences and other barriers on many nations border entry check points to keep illegal persons out including Mexico. When I went to visit Niagara Falls in Canada with family and friends, two of our friends did not have the necessary legal papers to enter Canada and had too stay on the US side of the border.

No, no it does not amount to the same thing at all.

You where attempting to visit Niagara Falls as a tourist. People applying for asylum are not tourists.

The tourist thing was an add on, making it easy for persons who don't qualify for any kind of asylum qualify for asylum is favoring illegal immigration.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

No, no it does not amount to the same thing at all.

You where attempting to visit Niagara Falls as a tourist. People applying for asylum are not tourists.

The tourist thing was an add on, making it easy for persons who don't qualify for any kind of asylum qualify for asylum is favoring illegal immigration.

If they successfully applied for asylum via the easy method, then that is not favoring illegal immigration. That would be legal immigration.



Also, that says nothing on why a wall should be built. Most illegal immigration comes in expired visas. So a wall would do nothing for illegal immigration.

[Neutraligon]

No, no it does not amount to the same thing at all.

You where attempting to visit Niagara Falls as a tourist. People applying for asylum are not tourists.

The tourist thing was an add on, making it easy for persons who don't qualify for any kind of asylum qualify for asylum is favoring illegal immigration.

This is a contradiction in thought as seeking asylum is perfectly legal and those granted asylum are by definition legal immigrants.

[Seangoli]

lol, the Democrats don't have to specifically say they want open borders, they support loose asylum laws, remember the opposition to Trump trying to strengthen asylum laws, it amounts to the same thing, making it easier for those who don't qualify for any kind of asylum to qualify for asylum. I don't say it the nice way, but the end result is the same. The border security talk with no barriers is just talk and do nothing, lol.

Their is a fence in Hungary, their are fences and other barriers on many nations border entry check points to keep illegal persons out including Mexico. When I went to visit Niagara Falls in Canada with family and friends, two of our friends did not have the necessary legal papers to enter Canada and had too stay on the US side of the border.

No, no it does not amount to the same thing at all.

You where attempting to visit Niagara Falls as a tourist. People applying for asylum are not tourists.

To be fair, in specific narrow circumstances, barriers can work. A 2,000 mile long barrier is not going to work any more than other, less expensive impactful measures will.

[Fartsniffage]

No, no it does not amount to the same thing at all.

You where attempting to visit Niagara Falls as a tourist. People applying for asylum are not tourists.

To be fair, in specific narrow circumstances, barriers can work. A 2,000 mile long barrier is not going to work any more than other, less expensive impactful measures will.

There is an old military term for how to secure an area, the 3Gs. Gates, guns, guys. The guys part is the most important. A 2,000 mile border wall will only be as good as the people watching and manning it.

[San Lumen]

To be fair, in specific narrow circumstances, barriers can work. A 2,000 mile long barrier is not going to work any more than other, less expensive impactful measures will.

There is an old military term for how to secure an area, the 3Gs. Gates, guns, guys. The guys part is the most important. A 2,000 mile border wall will only be as good as the people watching and manning it.

A border wall is not only impractical but its also impossible to build in some places.

[Farnhamia]

To be fair, in specific narrow circumstances, barriers can work. A 2,000 mile long barrier is not going to work any more than other, less expensive impactful measures will.

There is an old military term for how to secure an area, the 3Gs. Gates, guns, guys. The guys part is the most important. A 2,000 mile border wall will only be as good as the people watching and manning it.

He said it will be a smart wall and the Border Patrol will be able to monitor it with far fewer people. Weren't you listening? So people are going back to work but now the Border Patrol guys can be afraid for their jobs.

[Vassenor]

To be fair, in specific narrow circumstances, barriers can work. A 2,000 mile long barrier is not going to work any more than other, less expensive impactful measures will.

There is an old military term for how to secure an area, the 3Gs. Gates, guns, guys. The guys part is the most important. A 2,000 mile border wall will only be as good as the people watching and manning it.

And if you have the technology to replace the boots on the ground and detect intruders, why do you even need a physical wall?

[Seangoli]

To be fair, in specific narrow circumstances, barriers can work. A 2,000 mile long barrier is not going to work any more than other, less expensive impactful measures will.

There is an old military term for how to secure an area, the 3Gs. Gates, guns, guys. The guys part is the most important. A 2,000 mile border wall will only be as good as the people watching and manning it.

And therein kies the problem. We simply cannot man a 2,000 mile long barrier indefinitely with enough men to actually make it effective. That is not a tenuous situation.


Even further, we could probably in many location do just as well with increased manpower amd surveillance.