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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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77%
No
31
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Total votes : 134

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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:50 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Is the timing just to knock the Roger Stone story off the news?

.... damnit.

Played again.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:50 pm

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Or bad hamberders...

...shit, he may have gotten a touch of creutzfeldt-jakobs

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Is the timing just to knock the Roger Stone story off the news?

.... damnit.

Played again.


Now I'm angry.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:52 pm

Valrifell wrote:If we go with the original budget I'm fairly sure everyone's going to be more pissed at Trump than ever. Shutting down the government to get back to square one, truly the best deal maker of this or any time.

Speaking as someone outside the US, It would be hilarious.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:57 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Is the timing just to knock the Roger Stone story off the news?


Even so, I think the news will still latch on to that story.

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Wallenburg
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:58 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Is the timing just to knock the Roger Stone story off the news?

Perhaps, but I imagine that it might tie even more into a desire to shift the news cycle to Venezuela, where he can work the news media into a war frenzy.
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Seangoli
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Postby Seangoli » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:00 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Is the timing just to knock the Roger Stone story off the news?


Its tax return season and airports were starting to shutdown.

Very real impacts on people were about to start. It takes time for actual effects to trickle into the general populace.

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Gravlen
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:03 pm

Seangoli wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Is the timing just to knock the Roger Stone story off the news?


Its tax return season and airports were starting to shutdown.

Very real impacts on people were about to start. It takes time for actual effects to trickle into the general populace.

Yeah, my money is also on the airports.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:03 pm

Seangoli wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Is the timing just to knock the Roger Stone story off the news?


Its tax return season and airports were starting to shutdown.

Very real impacts on people were about to start. It takes time for actual effects to trickle into the general populace.

Plus the super bowl is right around the corner and I wouldn’t want to be guarded by unpaid forced labor
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:09 pm

And the Trumpists are already spinning it to say that Trump is a hero and gave up on the wall in order to pay people because the democrats hate government workers.

I swear I’m not making this up
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:And the Trumpists are already spinning it to say that Trump is a hero and gave up on the wall in order to pay people because the democrats hate government workers.

I swear I’m not making this up


Luckily I don't think this narrative will play out well inside or outside his base.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:And the Trumpists are already spinning it to say that Trump is a hero and gave up on the wall in order to pay people because the democrats hate government workers.

I swear I’m not making this up

I'd believe it.

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:11 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And the Trumpists are already spinning it to say that Trump is a hero and gave up on the wall in order to pay people because the democrats hate government workers.

I swear I’m not making this up


Luckily I don't think this narrative will play out well inside or outside his base.

Ya but that’s what his base is claiming.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:12 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Luckily I don't think this narrative will play out well inside or outside his base.

Ya but that’s what his base is claiming.


But keep in mind that the shutdown has actually shown cracks in his base, now that he's caved I can see a few of his core supporters dropping out.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:And the Trumpists are already spinning it to say that Trump is a hero and gave up on the wall in order to pay people because the democrats hate government workers.

I swear I’m not making this up


fucking what are they smoking

democrats hate government workers when it was trump who shut the government down in the first place?

That is some bat shit logic right there

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Seangoli
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Postby Seangoli » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:And the Trumpists are already spinning it to say that Trump is a hero and gave up on the wall in order to pay people because the democrats hate government workers.

I swear I’m not making this up


They also believe this is a tactical move against Democrats, to justify him declaring a NE in 3 weeks to build the wall.

It's a bluff, alright, but its a bluff against them. I doubt Trump will try to pull a national emergency over this.

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Autumn Wind
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Postby Autumn Wind » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Luckily I don't think this narrative will play out well inside or outside his base.

Ya but that’s what his base is claiming.


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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:14 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya but that’s what his base is claiming.


But keep in mind that the shutdown has actually shown cracks in his base, now that he's caved I can see a few of his core supporters dropping out.

Possibly. I just think the idea that democrats hate government employees while simultaneously making up the majority of government workers and wanting to expand the government massively to be absolutely silly
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Seangoli
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Postby Seangoli » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:15 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And the Trumpists are already spinning it to say that Trump is a hero and gave up on the wall in order to pay people because the democrats hate government workers.

I swear I’m not making this up


fucking what are they smoking

democrats hate government workers when it was trump who shut the government down in the first place?

That is some bat shit logic right there


Oh, its dumber than that. Democrats hate Goverent workers, and then they also state "Fuck the fed workers, they are Democrats anyway".

The disconnect here is incredible.

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:17 pm

Autumn Wind wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya but that’s what his base is claiming.


"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters"

Ya know at one point I didn’t think that was possible.
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Jebslund
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Postby Jebslund » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:19 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And the Trumpists are already spinning it to say that Trump is a hero and gave up on the wall in order to pay people because the democrats hate government workers.

I swear I’m not making this up


fucking what are they smoking

democrats hate government workers when it was trump who shut the government down in the first place?

That is some bat shit logic right there

People are fucking stupid. There's idiots out there who would believe Trump invented everything good in the Western world if he told them he did.
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Republic of Turbin
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Postby Republic of Turbin » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:21 pm

I was right when I voted on the poll that government would reopen by Friday even if it is temporary ,glad to see that people can finally get the paychecks that they deserve.Although I would’ve much rather had a final deal than this one.
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Autumn Wind wrote:
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters"

Ya know at one point I didn’t think that was possible.


I was actually quite shocked that people actually built a cult of personality around him of all people. Could this be a new form of Stockholm Syndrome?
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Wallenburg
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:22 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Luckily I don't think this narrative will play out well inside or outside his base.

Ya but that’s what his base is claiming.

Trump's base would claim that he was solving a drought if he let half of Florida sink into the ocean.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:22 pm

Seangoli wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
fucking what are they smoking

democrats hate government workers when it was trump who shut the government down in the first place?

That is some bat shit logic right there


Oh, its dumber than that. Democrats hate Goverent workers, and then they also state "Fuck the fed workers, they are Democrats anyway".

The disconnect here is incredible.



They have just floated away from any kind of logic.

Jebslund wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
fucking what are they smoking

democrats hate government workers when it was trump who shut the government down in the first place?

That is some bat shit logic right there

People are fucking stupid. There's idiots out there who would believe Trump invented everything good in the Western world if he told them he did.

Just amazes me how stupid some people can get.

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