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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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77%
No
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Gravlen
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:29 pm

It think Trump is having a stroke live on TV while giving his speech.

What the fuck is up with the whole "Women with taped faces are taking a right, or left, turn, in the desert"?
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:30 pm

Seangoli wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:The shutdown is over.


Howso? I havent found anything on the subject.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/jan/25/roger-stone-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-latest-live

“I am very proud to announce today that we have reached a deal to end the shutdown and reopen the federal government,” Trump says.
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Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores
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Postby Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:30 pm

According to this article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cid=spWith Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks "while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. "

I don't like this, this means talk, talk, talk, and do nothing.
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The Grims
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Postby The Grims » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:32 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:According to this article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cid=spWith Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks "while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. "

I don't like this, this means talk, talk, talk, and do nothing.


Is that not why Trump was elected ? To tweet a lot and achieve little ?

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:32 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:According to this article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cid=spWith Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks "while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. "

I don't like this, this means talk, talk, talk, and do nothing.


He collapsed under the pressure. He's now lost his only bargaining chip so negotiating the wall is going to be tough, if it shuts down again, it shouldn't be too hard to blame him again.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:33 pm

The Grims wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:According to this article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cid=spWith Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks "while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. "

I don't like this, this means talk, talk, talk, and do nothing.


Is that not why Trump was elected ? To tweet a lot and achieve little ?


Trump was elected because he had the essential platform of the GOP but screamed more.
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-Ocelot-
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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:33 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:According to this article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cid=spWith Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks "while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. "

I don't like this, this means talk, talk, talk, and do nothing.


Trump's government has been exceptionally weak since day 1. This isn't going to change now.

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:35 pm

Gravlen wrote:It think Trump is having a stroke live on TV while giving his speech.

What the fuck is up with the whole "Women with taped faces are taking a right, or left, turn, in the desert"?

Oh shit, he got some bad coke.

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:35 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:According to this article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cid=spWith Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks "while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. "

I don't like this, this means talk, talk, talk, and do nothing.


He collapsed under the pressure. He's now lost his only bargaining chip so negotiating the wall is going to be tough, if it shuts down again, it shouldn't be too hard to blame him again.


Exactly, he caved when it was looking like the Democrats might; there were reports that least 30 in the House were suggesting to Pelosi to give up on Wall funding. As stated, Ann Coulter was 100% right on this.
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Gravlen
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:36 pm

Alright, so who had 34 days?
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:37 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
He collapsed under the pressure. He's now lost his only bargaining chip so negotiating the wall is going to be tough, if it shuts down again, it shouldn't be too hard to blame him again.


Exactly, he caved when it was looking like the Democrats might; there were reports that least 30 in the House were suggesting to Pelosi to give up on Wall funding. As stated, Ann Coulter was 100% right on this.


Isn't this whole thing her fault for bitching?
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:37 pm

Gravlen wrote:Alright, so who had 34 days?

I said a month. Am I closest?
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:37 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
He collapsed under the pressure. He's now lost his only bargaining chip so negotiating the wall is going to be tough, if it shuts down again, it shouldn't be too hard to blame him again.


Exactly, he caved when it was looking like the Democrats might; there were reports that least 30 in the House were suggesting to Pelosi to give up on Wall funding. As stated, Ann Coulter was 100% right on this.


It's hard to say which party would have lost control first, Dems were inching ever so closely towards that 60 vote mark in the Senate when Mitch was allowing votes.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:38 pm

Galloism wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Alright, so who had 34 days?

I said a month. Am I closest?


Probably. The optimists said a week or two, the "realists" said 3-6 months, the Revolutionaries said indefinitely.
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The Grims
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Postby The Grims » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:39 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
He collapsed under the pressure. He's now lost his only bargaining chip so negotiating the wall is going to be tough, if it shuts down again, it shouldn't be too hard to blame him again.


Exactly, he caved when it was looking like the Democrats might; there were reports that least 30 in the House were suggesting to Pelosi to give up on Wall funding. As stated, Ann Coulter was 100% right on this.


Or perhaps he himself believes the wall is an idiotic idea and never seriously wanted it in the first place - and was getting scared people.were actually going to do it

Would explain why he sofar has done nothing like planning, design and never made a problem about it not being in the budget until FOXnews whined.

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:42 pm

The Grims wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
Exactly, he caved when it was looking like the Democrats might; there were reports that least 30 in the House were suggesting to Pelosi to give up on Wall funding. As stated, Ann Coulter was 100% right on this.


Or perhaps he himself believes the wall is an idiotic idea and never seriously wanted it in the first place - and was getting scared people.were actually going to do it

Would explain why he sofar has done nothing like planning, design and never made a problem about it not being in the budget until FOXnews whined.


That still doesn't explain what he was going to do with the 4 5 5.7 7 billion dollars if he got it.

Oh... wait... he was going to pocket it or give it to shady contractors that would never actually finish it, wasn't he?
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:42 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Gravlen wrote:It think Trump is having a stroke live on TV while giving his speech.

What the fuck is up with the whole "Women with taped faces are taking a right, or left, turn, in the desert"?

Oh shit, he got some bad coke.

Or bad hamberders...

...shit, he may have gotten a touch of creutzfeldt-jakobs
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:43 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The Grims wrote:
Or perhaps he himself believes the wall is an idiotic idea and never seriously wanted it in the first place - and was getting scared people.were actually going to do it

Would explain why he sofar has done nothing like planning, design and never made a problem about it not being in the budget until FOXnews whined.


That still doesn't explain what he was going to do with the 4 5 5.7 7 billion dollars if he got it.

Oh... wait... he was going to pocket it or give it to shady contractors that would never actually finish it, wasn't he?

And by "shady contractors", you mean most likely LLCs he controls.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:44 pm

Galloism wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
That still doesn't explain what he was going to do with the 4 5 5.7 7 billion dollars if he got it.

Oh... wait... he was going to pocket it or give it to shady contractors that would never actually finish it, wasn't he?

And by "shady contractors", you mean most likely LLCs he controls.


Yup.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:45 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:According to this article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cid=spWith Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks "while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. "

I don't like this, this means talk, talk, talk, and do nothing.

Good. Now, him and both parties can talk like big boys and explain why his wall would be useless.


3.5 Billion on upgrading border security but no wall. Sounds like a good compromise to anyone?

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The Grims
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Postby The Grims » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:45 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The Grims wrote:
Or perhaps he himself believes the wall is an idiotic idea and never seriously wanted it in the first place - and was getting scared people.were actually going to do it

Would explain why he sofar has done nothing like planning, design and never made a problem about it not being in the budget until FOXnews whined.


That still doesn't explain what he was going to do with the 4 5 5.7 7 billion dollars if he got it.

Oh... wait... he was going to pocket it or give it to shady contractors that would never actually finish it, wasn't he?

To his good Russian friends of course. Why else would he remove sanctions against a Russian steel magnate moments before declaring his wall would be a steel fence instead of anslab of concrete ?

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Postby The Grims » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:46 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:According to this article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cid=spWith Trump’s approval, the pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks "while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks. "

I don't like this, this means talk, talk, talk, and do nothing.

Good. Now, him and both parties can talk like big boys and explain why his wall would be useless.


3.5 Billion on upgrading border security but no wall. Sounds like a good compromise to anyone?


Sounds like the original budget Trump refused ;)

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:48 pm

If we go with the original budget I'm fairly sure everyone's going to be more pissed at Trump than ever. Shutting down the government to get back to square one, truly the best deal maker of this or any time.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:49 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
Exactly, he caved when it was looking like the Democrats might; there were reports that least 30 in the House were suggesting to Pelosi to give up on Wall funding. As stated, Ann Coulter was 100% right on this.


Isn't this whole thing her fault for bitching?


He unfollowed her before this all happened, seems unlikely.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:49 pm

Is the timing just to knock the Roger Stone story off the news?
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