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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

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No
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:29 am

92% no
Ouch
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:31 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Or it could have been anyone who made it. Memes aren’t exactly restricted to political beliefs

Didn't like, the entire Article 13 thread devolve into why all memes aren't political?

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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:33 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:92% no
Ouch

Nothing's changed. When airports start shutting down the assessment might change but if nobody gave yesterday they won't do it today.
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:33 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Didn't like, the entire Article 13 thread devolve into why all memes aren't political?

Ah that was a glorious battle

Surely, as with all forms of media and critique, memes inherently are political? :)
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:34 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Abolishing the TSA and ATC would be nice.

I don’t think you want to see what would happen without ATC. Planes smashing into other planes doesn’t sound like a great idea

If airlines don't want to crash they'll hire one of the private air traffic control firms who'll emerge. Sure, there'll be some collisions when competing firms don't share information, but that's the price to pay for the libertarian dream.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:34 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:92% no
Ouch

Nothing's changed. When airports start shutting down the assessment might change but if nobody gave yesterday they won't do it today.

Oh I agree
It’s just a really bad thing
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:36 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Oh I agree
It’s just a really bad thing


I find it bad that Trump is keeping this going but I find congress as being generally noble in this, someone is trying to strong-arm the elected representatives of the American people and they're refusing to blink.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:39 am

Thermodolia wrote:I don’t think you want to see what would happen without ATC. Planes smashing into other planes doesn’t sound like a great idea

Solution: change ATC and TSA to ATF and NSA and see what hell breaks loose. Although, I don’t think most people would be able to tell if either was abolished unless you see your neighbor with an improvised automatic weapon and the helicopter doesn’t come to their house.
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:39 am

So it seems like the bill McConnell is trying to push forward to put the screws to the Democrats may actually not even get a Majority in the Senate, let alone the supermajority, because hardline anti-immigrant Trumpist politicians will not support the bill that has DACA protections ornother concessions to Democrats in exchange for the wall.

What a wonderful world we live in.
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Myrensis
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Postby Myrensis » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:21 am

Seangoli wrote:So it seems like the bill McConnell is trying to push forward to put the screws to the Democrats may actually not even get a Majority in the Senate, let alone the supermajority, because hardline anti-immigrant Trumpist politicians will not support the bill that has DACA protections ornother concessions to Democrats in exchange for the wall.

What a wonderful world we live in.


It's unlikely to get the votes to pass regardless. The 'Great Negotiator' showed his hand. Offering only 3 years of DACA protections (read: ends 1 year after the next election) is essentially an admission that he's pegged his re-election chances to the wall, and that he plans on going after DACA or using it as a bargaining chip again asap if he wins.

Can't imagine why Democrats aren't jumping at the offer.

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Postby Seangoli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:28 am

Myrensis wrote:
Seangoli wrote:So it seems like the bill McConnell is trying to push forward to put the screws to the Democrats may actually not even get a Majority in the Senate, let alone the supermajority, because hardline anti-immigrant Trumpist politicians will not support the bill that has DACA protections ornother concessions to Democrats in exchange for the wall.

What a wonderful world we live in.


It's unlikely to get the votes to pass regardless. The 'Great Negotiator' showed his hand. Offering only 3 years of DACA protections (read: ends 1 year after the next election) is essentially an admission that he's pegged his re-election chances to the wall, and that he plans on going after DACA or using it as a bargaining chip again asap if he wins.

Can't imagine why Democrats aren't jumping at the offer.



Like I said, its not just Democrats it seems. Trumpist Republicans have baulked at that "offer", and its unlikely for there evem to be enough Republicans to get even a simple majority.

Trump overplayed his hand on this, I feel. He is backed into a corner with nowhere to go.

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Postby Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:38 pm

To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:13 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.


It won't do anything for US illegal immigration. It won't do anything all over the world.

How on earth is a wall on the US-Mexico border going to anything for Japan?

How would it do anything for a landlocked nation like Hungary on another continent?

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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:30 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.

50% of all asylum applications in most European countries are outright rejected (in the UK I think it's higher). Those who fail are effectively imprisoned in "processing centres", and even the ones that pass are subject to policies enacted by race-baiting "immigrant" rhetoric that prevents them from working or claiming state benefit, leaving them financially destitute for an arbitrary period of time.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:33 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.


So how will the Wall stop illegal immigration?
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:38 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.


So how will the Wall stop illegal immigration?


We can throw people off of it when they overstay their Visas. Nobody wants to get thrown off a wall into a desert. this is sarcasm. In case you're wondering.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:40 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.


So how will the Wall stop illegal immigration?

It makes people not want to move to this country by showing how xenophobic we are.

It stops all immigration
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Postby Olthar » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:46 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.


So how will the Wall stop illegal immigration?

We plaster it with naked pictures of Trump. Then no one will ever go near it. *nod*
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:48 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.

Tell us more about island nations needing walls on their borders.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:50 pm

Olthar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how will the Wall stop illegal immigration?

We plaster it with naked pictures of Trump. Then no one will ever go near it. *nod*

Error 404, Causes more "illegal immigration"
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:54 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:To the Democrats in Congress I say Build The Great Wall of Trump and do something about the illegal immigration problem in the US and all over the world. Asylum is being abused all over the world as an excuse for open borders illegal immigration they want to call legal immigration. Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to do and it is that easy to understand.

From the USA to Italy, Brazil, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, Sweden, the UK, France, Germany and many other nations all over the world.

Tell us more about island nations needing walls on their borders.


Well you see. If we build a giant dome over the country, we can cover it in solar panels and have free electricity forever. And also prevent immigrants who may or may not be equipped with jetpacks, like they talk about on the news.
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Postby Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:56 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Tell us more about island nations needing walls on their borders.


Well you see. If we build a giant dome over the country, we can cover it in solar panels and have free electricity forever. And also prevent immigrants who may or may not be equipped with jetpacks, like they talk about on the news.

Lol, a lot of great responses to my post. Lol, great post, awesome post, my idea is build a force field on the US Mexican Border. In a day or two I will post a similar post like the one I posted above on Twitter on a few Twitter pages, I bet I will get a few likes from like minded Twitter Rights.
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Postby Rotonan » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:59 pm

I am disgusted. :evil:

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:59 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Well you see. If we build a giant dome over the country, we can cover it in solar panels and have free electricity forever. And also prevent immigrants who may or may not be equipped with jetpacks, like they talk about on the news.

Lol, a lot of great responses to my post. Lol, great post, awesome post, my idea is build a force field on the US Mexican Border. In a day or two I will post a similar post like the one I posted above on Twitter on a few Twitter pages, I bet I will get a few likes from like minded Twitter Rights.


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Postby Xmara » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:03 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Tell us more about island nations needing walls on their borders.


Well you see. If we build a giant dome over the country, we can cover it in solar panels and have free electricity forever. And also prevent immigrants who may or may not be equipped with jetpacks, like they talk about on the news.


Then we can stop the other kind of illegal aliens as well
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