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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:58 am
by Galloism
Thermodolia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Not quite: there's a few edge cases that might or might not be natural-born citizens (and, for that matter, having two American citizens as parents might not count).

Under the current law having at least one parent counts. And tbh I really don’t care if it’s in the constitution or not. Immigration law pretty much states the IM isn’t a automatic citizen and therefore can’t be president.

Which was the original fucking point until Vass got pissy about the damn constitution

There’s two items of note:

1) Subsequent laws can not define what the terms in the constitution mean. Otherwise the constitution would be largely meaningless.

2) There is not equality in the current “one parent counts” rule. There are additional rules and requirements if the one parent is the father.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... broad.html

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:16 am
by Xmara
Day 29. We have almost hit the one month mark. Are we gonna go for two months? Three? Forever?

Par Chic wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:antifa also assaulted a liberal for carrying a US flag, calling it a "fascist symbol".

So, antifa can fuck off.


So you support fascists?


That is a major loaded question. One can hate antifa without supporting fascists.

As for another civil war happening? Yeah, I don’t see that happening. Tensions are definitely high, but I just don’t see it happening in the near future.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:30 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Xmara wrote:Day 29. We have almost hit the one month mark. Are we gonna go for two months? Three? Forever?


It's already been a month long, February is only 28 days long.

Par Chic wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:antifa also assaulted a liberal for carrying a US flag, calling it a "fascist symbol".

So, antifa can fuck off.


So you support fascists?



No.

And I don't support any group that is violent towards it's political opponents.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:37 am
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy
Par Chic wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:antifa also assaulted a liberal for carrying a US flag, calling it a "fascist symbol".

So, antifa can fuck off.


So you support fascists?

Antifa is the worst way to stop fascism. It actually makes it easier for the fascists.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:39 am
by Thermodolia
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Par Chic wrote:
So you support fascists?

Antifa is the worst way to stop fascism. It actually makes it easier for the fascists.

Antifa also has a shitty ideology to boot

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:40 am
by The South Falls
Thermodolia wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Antifa is the worst way to stop fascism. It actually makes it easier for the fascists.

Antifa also has a shitty ideology to boot

And they're not even good at stopping fascists without violence. With violence, they are ineffective at best.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:42 am
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy
The South Falls wrote:And they're not even good at stopping fascists without violence. With violence, they are ineffective at best.

I mean, if you really wanted to stop fascists with violence, just line them up against the wall and shoot them. Getting them even angrier is stupid.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:43 am
by The South Falls
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
The South Falls wrote:And they're not even good at stopping fascists without violence. With violence, they are ineffective at best.

I mean, if you really wanted to stop fascists with violence, just line them up against the wall and shoot them. Getting them even angrier is stupid.

And that's where the laws kick in. Fascists should live, but they don't make this world better.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:52 am
by Thermodolia
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
The South Falls wrote:And they're not even good at stopping fascists without violence. With violence, they are ineffective at best.

I mean, if you really wanted to stop fascists with violence, just line them up against the wall and shoot them. Getting them even angrier is stupid.

We could always go the Chinese and Soviet route and roll tanks into the area

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:53 am
by The South Falls
Thermodolia wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:I mean, if you really wanted to stop fascists with violence, just line them up against the wall and shoot them. Getting them even angrier is stupid.

We could always go the Chinese and Soviet route and roll tanks into the area

Through all of America?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:55 am
by Valrifell
The South Falls wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We could always go the Chinese and Soviet route and roll tanks into the area

Through all of America?


We have a lot of tanks.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:57 am
by Ifreann
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Par Chic wrote:
So you support fascists?

Antifa is the worst way to stop fascism. It actually makes it easier for the fascists.

That's not true, even according to fascists themselves. Richard Spencer has said that consistent antifa protests have taken all the fun out of public speaking. Charlottesville was meant to bring fascists into the mainstream, and instead it ruined them. Subsequent far-right rallies saw fascists massively outnumbered by counter protesters. And now where are they? Do they even try to have rallies any more?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:59 am
by Thermodolia
The South Falls wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We could always go the Chinese and Soviet route and roll tanks into the area

Through all of America?

If I had the power I’d make the Stasi look like child’s play

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:03 am
by The South Falls
Thermodolia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Through all of America?

If I had the power I’d make the Stasi look like child’s play

Remind your representative to please keep therm from government.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:04 am
by Valrifell
The South Falls wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If I had the power I’d make the Stasi look like child’s play

Remind your representative to please keep therm from government.


Will do.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:10 am
by Thermodolia
Yall are no fun.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:13 am
by Galloism
Thermodolia wrote:Yall are no fun.

I'll vote for you. It will make CSPAN more interesting.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:14 am
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy
Ifreann wrote:That's not true, even according to fascists themselves. Richard Spencer has said that consistent antifa protests have taken all the fun out of public speaking. Charlottesville was meant to bring fascists into the mainstream, and instead it ruined them. Subsequent far-right rallies saw fascists massively outnumbered by counter protesters. And now where are they? Do they even try to have rallies any more?

The far right also says that their planning was terrible and it would have been a failure either way. Also, you’re confusing fascists with neo-fascists. They both are bad, but only one is the real thing.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:14 am
by Western Vale Confederacy
Thermodolia wrote:Yall are no fun.


Buncha status quo lovers..

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:18 am
by Valrifell
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yall are no fun.


Buncha status quo lovers..


Oh sure, the first round of purges might be fun, but when I start not liking Therm's authoritarian nature the second round will be far less fun.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:20 am
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy
Valrifell wrote: the second round will be far less fun.

NKVD America edition

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:22 am
by Thermodolia
Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yall are no fun.

I'll vote for you. It will make CSPAN more interesting.

You get a gulag! And you get a gulag!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:29 am
by Thermodolia
Valrifell wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Buncha status quo lovers..


Oh sure, the first round of purges might be fun, but when I start not liking Therm's authoritarian nature the second round will be far less fun.

I like you. You’ll make it to at least the fourth

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:31 am
by British Tackeettlaus
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That's not true, even according to fascists themselves. Richard Spencer has said that consistent antifa protests have taken all the fun out of public speaking. Charlottesville was meant to bring fascists into the mainstream, and instead it ruined them. Subsequent far-right rallies saw fascists massively outnumbered by counter protesters. And now where are they? Do they even try to have rallies any more?

The far right also says that their planning was terrible and it would have been a failure either way. Also, you’re confusing fascists with neo-fascists. They both are bad, but only one is the real thing.


It is still true that Antifa won this round. They are one of the reasons there probably not be anything on the scale of Charlottesville any time in the near future. It's not just the counter protesting and violence towards the fascists* although it is a factor, it is also the work they did recording, outing and doxxing attendees. This is a major disincentive to attending a fascist* event as many of them face issues with their friends, family and employers when outed.

Overall I do think Antifa are a negative force, they scare the normies. And they have hit the wrong targets and they are basically hated by 90% of people.

*I am just calling them fascists because I can't be bothered to argue semantics. Fascists, Neo-Fascists, Identitarians, Alt-Right, Ethnonationalists, White nationalists etc. etc. etc. whatever they are calling themselves this month, they still unironically want to commit violence against me and people I care about. They advocate deporting my mother and my girlfriend and maybe my daughter too, or sending them to camps. They unironically would like a country where I am sent to a camp or thrown from a helicopter. So Don't necessarily care about violence being commited against them.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:37 am
by The South Falls
Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Oh sure, the first round of purges might be fun, but when I start not liking Therm's authoritarian nature the second round will be far less fun.

I like you. You’ll make it to at least the fourth

how many are there? 5? 12? 20? 2000?