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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 134

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:08 pm

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Chernoslavia wrote:
They fucking get back payments!

Not everyone will be made whole, not to mention costs incrued by delayed payment. But you know this, you just want to make a disingenuous argument.
Chernoslavia wrote:You lot are real pathetic at trying to make this like such a major crisis.

It is. We don't have to make anything.
Chernoslavia wrote: And surely you don’t need me to tell you where you can take your piece of shit source.

You are free to provide a better one. Or substantially refute the facts presented.
Chernoslavia wrote:You want to fix this mess?

No. I want the President to stop manufacturing it.
Chernoslavia wrote: How about getting your fucking side to just hand over the wall, and stop fucking pretending that 7 Billion is such a big fucking waste of money, when you lot have no problem spending over ten times that fucking amount for illegals. Oh but no! That would mean giving the big evil orange man what he wants :roll:

"BUuuuuuuut I waaaaaaaaaant iiiiiiiiittttt!" is not a good argument for a wall nor a reason to shut down a government.


1. No you just hope a lot of them don’t in hopes to further more outrage.

2. You know you’re just being silly when I think you’re being paranoid. But you know what? You go be miserable all you want. But for the rest of us, life will just go on like it always has before the shutdown.

3. And I don’t want the left to prolong it.

4. If the left is certain (and so am I) that this wall will not reduce enough illegal migration from occurring then let him have the wall and watch it’s ineffectiveness blow up in his face. And do not come at me with “it’s too expensive!”
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:09 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:Yeah and the people suddenly giving a shit about government spending even when the wall will only affect less than 1 percent of our spending, when really it’s more about saying “no” to Trump.

Hey I have always given a shit about our deficit!
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Postby Southeastern Xiatao » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:09 pm

I found a funny meme made in response to how British see the US government shut down.

https://www.qt.com.au/news/a-letter-to- ... a/3105190/
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:12 pm

:meh:
Southeastern Xiatao wrote:I found a funny meme made in response to how British see the US government shut down.

https://www.qt.com.au/news/a-letter-to- ... a/3105190/

Australia isn’t real though.
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:13 pm

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Nope. I had a bet that it'll end on Day 27. I know that I cannot change the outcome, but I can at least cheer for my bet :P


I'm on Day 30... Wanna double down. (╯ ̄◞  ̄)╯︵ ┻━┻


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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:13 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

And they should work without pay beacuse?

I don't see how the FDA not getting pay is a good thing.


No just the side that shut down the government because mommy congress said that the Super Wall man action figure was too expensive.

All Trump is doing is just throwing a tantrum at the toy store.


I think everyone should get paid for their labor. But the FDA is not going to seize food inspections because of the shut down and nor will farms stop producing food.

I’m getting fairly annoyed of people acting like the apocalypse just started or shit has hit the fan. I’m supposed to be the paranoid militia guy in NSG!

Yeah and the people suddenly giving a shit about government spending even when the wall will only affect less than 1 percent of our spending, when really it’s more about saying “no” to Trump.


People give a shit now because the REPUBLICANS THEMSELVES wouldn't shut up about it when Obama was in the White House.

Nobody ever gave a shit about the deficit EXCEPT THE REPUBLICANS. Ever heard of HYPOCRISY?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:15 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
I think everyone should get paid for their labor. But the FDA is not going to seize food inspections because of the shut down and nor will farms stop producing food.

I’m getting fairly annoyed of people acting like the apocalypse just started or shit has hit the fan. I’m supposed to be the paranoid militia guy in NSG!

Yeah and the people suddenly giving a shit about government spending even when the wall will only affect less than 1 percent of our spending, when really it’s more about saying “no” to Trump.

Unless the FDA goes on strike. Which they should as part of a general strike.

The most powerful nation on earth has shut down beacuse the leader of zed nation wants a wall and congress disagrees. This leads to lots of people getting fucked out of pay over a wall. At least it's embarrassing. At most it's a massive problem for the people not getting payed and businesses that rely on them as customers.


It is a useless overpriced wall. It's about finding a more cost-effective way to combat this shrinking problem. Oh and a way that would actually work. Because a wall wouldn't stop the number one way Illegals get in, overstaying there visas. Drug dealers don't care about the wall ether.


Why? Do you want people to get sick?

I agree. But why not just let the fat man have his wall and let its failure at securing the border blow up in his face? It’s either that or prolong the shut down....or you know, let us have our Mattis-led coup.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:18 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
I think everyone should get paid for their labor. But the FDA is not going to seize food inspections because of the shut down and nor will farms stop producing food.

I’m getting fairly annoyed of people acting like the apocalypse just started or shit has hit the fan. I’m supposed to be the paranoid militia guy in NSG!

Yeah and the people suddenly giving a shit about government spending even when the wall will only affect less than 1 percent of our spending, when really it’s more about saying “no” to Trump.


People give a shit now because the REPUBLICANS THEMSELVES wouldn't shut up about it when Obama was in the White House.

Nobody ever gave a shit about the deficit EXCEPT THE REPUBLICANS. Ever heard of HYPOCRISY?


Yeah that’s something your side is known to do quite a lot.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:19 pm

Shofercia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I'm on Day 30... Wanna double down. (╯ ̄◞  ̄)╯︵ ┻━┻


Nah, I'm good. Just out of curiosity - why 30 days?

My goal is either 31 or 28. 28 because then it would four weeks long and 31 because then it would be as long as a longer month. Then there’s no other points to reach besides 1 year.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:19 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
People give a shit now because the REPUBLICANS THEMSELVES wouldn't shut up about it when Obama was in the White House.

Nobody ever gave a shit about the deficit EXCEPT THE REPUBLICANS. Ever heard of HYPOCRISY?


Yeah that’s something your side is known to do quite a lot.

Implying any side isnt
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:21 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
People give a shit now because the REPUBLICANS THEMSELVES wouldn't shut up about it when Obama was in the White House.

Nobody ever gave a shit about the deficit EXCEPT THE REPUBLICANS. Ever heard of HYPOCRISY?


Yeah that’s something your side is known to do quite a lot.


Oh, man, I'ma need to get some lukewarm water to soothe that sick burn. :roll:

Do you have anything to contribute besides mild insults?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:22 pm

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:Yeah and the people suddenly giving a shit about government spending even when the wall will only affect less than 1 percent of our spending, when really it’s more about saying “no” to Trump.

Hey I have always given a shit about our deficit!


Well, that’s good then.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:23 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Yeah that’s something your side is known to do quite a lot.


Oh, man, I'ma need to get some lukewarm water to soothe that sick burn. :roll:

Do you have anything to contribute besides mild insults?


Do you?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:24 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
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Oh, man, I'ma need to get some lukewarm water to soothe that sick burn. :roll:

Do you have anything to contribute besides mild insults?


Do you?


Yeah, plenty. Have you been reading the thread or have you just been thinking of more sickly and lame ways to whine about how Trump should get the wall?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:30 pm

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Do you?


Yeah, plenty. Have you been reading the thread or have you just been thinking of more sickly and lame ways to whine about how Trump should get the wall?


No I’m thinking that you lot should quit your fucking pissing contest with him. You know the left is far from innocent in this.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:39 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Not everyone will be made whole, not to mention costs incrued by delayed payment. But you know this, you just want to make a disingenuous argument.

It is. We don't have to make anything.

You are free to provide a better one. Or substantially refute the facts presented.

No. I want the President to stop manufacturing it.

"BUuuuuuuut I waaaaaaaaaant iiiiiiiiittttt!" is not a good argument for a wall nor a reason to shut down a government.


1. No you just hope a lot of them don’t in hopes to further more outrage.

Conclusion not supported.
Chernoslavia wrote:2. You know you’re just being silly when I think you’re being paranoid. But you know what? You go be miserable all you want. But for the rest of us, life will just go on like it always has before the shutdown.

Except for the millions of people affected by the shutdown. But as long as it's not you, right?
Chernoslavia wrote:3. And I don’t want the left to prolong it.

Your mess, you clean it up.
Chernoslavia wrote:4. If the left is certain (and so am I) that this wall will not reduce enough illegal migration from occurring then let him have the wall and watch it’s ineffectiveness blow up in his face. And do not come at me with “it’s too expensive!”

Not how anything has worked ever.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:40 pm

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Yeah, plenty. Have you been reading the thread or have you just been thinking of more sickly and lame ways to whine about how Trump should get the wall?


No I’m thinking that you lot should quit your fucking pissing contest with him. You know the left is far from innocent in this.


Innocent in building a useless wall that is built on poorly veiled racism and a complete misunderstanding of immigration issues?

No, we're pretty innocent in that regard.
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Postby NeoOasis » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:40 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Yeah, plenty. Have you been reading the thread or have you just been thinking of more sickly and lame ways to whine about how Trump should get the wall?


No I’m thinking that you lot should quit your fucking pissing contest with him. You know the left is far from innocent in this.


Far from innocent, but Trump did say he'd take responsibility for the shut down with pride. I see no reason to deprive him of responsibility.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:47 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Yeah, plenty. Have you been reading the thread or have you just been thinking of more sickly and lame ways to whine about how Trump should get the wall?


No I’m thinking that you lot should quit your fucking pissing contest with him. You know the left is far from innocent in this.


If the wall was such a big priority for him why did he not get funding when he had control of both houses? Why did he wait until the Democrats took the house. This is purely a political ploy by him to substantiate his charge that the Democrats are an obstacle to doing anything.

Alas he's gone for 'hey, the Democrats are blocking this thing that the majority of people don't want', even Rasmussen has him down in the low 40's now..
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:56 pm

NeoOasis wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
No I’m thinking that you lot should quit your fucking pissing contest with him. You know the left is far from innocent in this.


Far from innocent, but Trump did say he'd take responsibility for the shut down with pride. I see no reason to deprive him of responsibility.


I fucking forgot he did that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5as4eQCFi8

But I guess Chernoslavia wants us to just ignore that because it doesn't matter.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:00 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:
Far from innocent, but Trump did say he'd take responsibility for the shut down with pride. I see no reason to deprive him of responsibility.


I fucking forgot he did that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5as4eQCFi8

But I guess Chernoslavia wants us to just ignore that because it doesn't matter.


When did you start caring about what Trump claims?
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:06 pm

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The Rich Port wrote:
I fucking forgot he did that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5as4eQCFi8

But I guess Chernoslavia wants us to just ignore that because it doesn't matter.


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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:15 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I fucking forgot he did that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5as4eQCFi8

But I guess Chernoslavia wants us to just ignore that because it doesn't matter.


When did you start caring about what Trump claims?


I dunno, when are you gonna start caring about what he claims?

And to answer that stupid question, around the time Sarah Palin was still in the news and I noticed that Trump is somehow a worse liar than her. So, 2016?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Hamstan wrote:General Strike when?

I’ve been wanting a general strike of all transportation workers for about an month now.

You wanted a general strike of all transportation workers...before the shutdown started?


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They fucking get back payments!

Not everyone will be made whole, not to mention costs incrued by delayed payment. But you know this, you just want to make a disingenuous argument.

I've heard tell that there are some people still waiting on their back payments from the shutdown in 2013. And I just cannot believe that there exists a landlord who will wait five years for a tenant to catch up on their rent.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’ve been wanting a general strike of all transportation workers for about an month now.

You wanted a general strike of all transportation workers...before the shutdown started?

The shutdown has been going on for about a month. Which is about the same time I’ve wanted a general strike
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