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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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77%
No
30
23%
 
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:19 pm

Telconi wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I think he's mistaking your tendancy to put things in several (usually three) quote markes with the echo tags which is an antisemetic dog whistle and against site rules.


Yeah, Iunno what an echo tag is. But apparently I'm being accused of anti-semitism?


An echo tag is (((*word*))). When I see you do the thing with speech marks it sometimes throws me for a second too. But then I realise who it is posting.

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Postby Southerniva » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:25 pm

I find it very disturbing how majority of the votes on the poll on "Will there be a deal to end the shutdown by Friday January 18th?" are no.

Jesus Christ, it is really disturbing to see a majority on here actually gone to the point that they no longer can believe in their own government. (Then again one could very argue that majority of Americans have already got to the point of not believing in their government even way before the shutdown and even before Trump came into office)

This has to be really alarming to see on a poll.

Also I might as well mention how bad the government shutdown is effecting Native Americans too. They aren't able to get health services and other things due to this damn shutdown.

Now I am currently curious how the government shutdown is currently affecting our territories such as Puerto Rico and Guam for instance. I can say for certain Puerto Rico surely isn't doing well due to the shutdown (I could be wrong, if so please tell me).

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:49 pm

Southerniva wrote:I find it very disturbing how majority of the votes on the poll on "Will there be a deal to end the shutdown by Friday January 18th?" are no.

Jesus Christ, it is really disturbing to see a majority on here actually gone to the point that they no longer can believe in their own government. (Then again one could very argue that majority of Americans have already got to the point of not believing in their government even way before the shutdown and even before Trump came into office)



Not an American but the fact that this shutdown was over a wall of all things shows how bad the current administration is.
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Postby Southerniva » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:56 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Southerniva wrote:I find it very disturbing how majority of the votes on the poll on "Will there be a deal to end the shutdown by Friday January 18th?" are no.

Jesus Christ, it is really disturbing to see a majority on here actually gone to the point that they no longer can believe in their own government. (Then again one could very argue that majority of Americans have already got to the point of not believing in their government even way before the shutdown and even before Trump came into office)



Not an American but the fact that this shutdown was over a wall of all things shows how bad the current administration is.

Yeah, but have you also heard that plenty of people can't get officially married or get marriage licenses during government shutdown?

Because when I learned about this a week ago, I felt so sad for anyone going through that.

Most people be like "Your marriage isn't that important than the other problems going on", well like fuck them no offense. (And I don't regret saying that either)

Yeah I perfectly understand that your wedding and marriage is not the most important thing in the world obviously. But to really be shut a cold heartless asshole who doesn't care about other people especially when it comes to wanting to have the happiest thing to happen to them, then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

I mean like what the actual fuck? :o

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:59 pm

Southerniva wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

Not an American but the fact that this shutdown was over a wall of all things shows how bad the current administration is.

Yeah, but have you also heard that plenty of people can't get officially married or get marriage licenses during government shutdown?

Because when I learned about this a week ago, I felt so sad for anyone going through that.

Most people be like "Your marriage isn't that important than the other problems going on", well like fuck them no offense. (And I don't regret saying that either)

Yeah I perfectly understand that your wedding and marriage is not the most important thing in the world obviously. But to really be shut a cold heartless asshole who doesn't care about other people especially when it comes to wanting to have the happiest thing to happen to them, then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

I mean like what the actual fuck? :o

I think you're overvaluing marriage like it's some sort of sacred institution. It's just the official government recognition of a union between two people. Removing that doesn't really change love or anything really.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:02 pm

Southerniva wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

Not an American but the fact that this shutdown was over a wall of all things shows how bad the current administration is.

Yeah, but have you also heard that plenty of people can't get officially married or get marriage licenses during government shutdown?

Because when I learned about this a week ago, I felt so sad for anyone going through that.

Most people be like "Your marriage isn't that important than the other problems going on", well like fuck them no offense. (And I don't regret saying that either)

Yeah I perfectly understand that your wedding and marriage is not the most important thing in the world obviously. But to really be shut a cold heartless asshole who doesn't care about other people especially when it comes to wanting to have the happiest thing to happen to them, then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

I mean like what the actual fuck? :o


Thats bad. People spend loads on a ceremony to get married and then they can't do it?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:03 pm

Southerniva wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

Not an American but the fact that this shutdown was over a wall of all things shows how bad the current administration is.

Yeah, but have you also heard that plenty of people can't get officially married or get marriage licenses during government shutdown?

Because when I learned about this a week ago, I felt so sad for anyone going through that.

Most people be like "Your marriage isn't that important than the other problems going on", well like fuck them no offense. (And I don't regret saying that either)

Yeah I perfectly understand that your wedding and marriage is not the most important thing in the world obviously. But to really be shut a cold heartless asshole who doesn't care about other people especially when it comes to wanting to have the happiest thing to happen to them, then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

I mean like what the actual fuck? :o

Tbf, being officially married doesn't have any ceremony to it. You can still go down the aisle, say vows, etc. The only difference is the legal stuff won't treat you as married. Sure it'll cost more than being married, but you've been under these arrangements already due to being unmarried before.

Some people just say their married even before its official. I feel bad for the government service guys who wont be paid, sure. But I don't feel as bad for those who cant get officially married, when the only real drastic changes is how much your taxes cost.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:03 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Southerniva wrote:Yeah, but have you also heard that plenty of people can't get officially married or get marriage licenses during government shutdown?

Because when I learned about this a week ago, I felt so sad for anyone going through that.

Most people be like "Your marriage isn't that important than the other problems going on", well like fuck them no offense. (And I don't regret saying that either)

Yeah I perfectly understand that your wedding and marriage is not the most important thing in the world obviously. But to really be shut a cold heartless asshole who doesn't care about other people especially when it comes to wanting to have the happiest thing to happen to them, then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

I mean like what the actual fuck? :o

I think you're overvaluing marriage like it's some sort of sacred institution. It's just the official government recognition of a union between two people. Removing that doesn't really change love or anything really.

And you don't need a government officiate a marriage. For all the legal stuff, yes, but for getting married itself just go to a masjid/church/synagouge/temple
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Postby Seangoli » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:08 pm

Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:lol, too my many critics who I am sure enjoyed their posts, at least I call both Republicans and Democrats, non political saints equally, both sides not just the Republicans, not just the Democrats, both sides, fair and balanced post.

Under the circumstances of the Democrats intransigence on the legal and illegal immigration issue which is a serious issue in the USA and all over the world, I say use the political tactic, declare the emergency and build The Great Wall of Trump, it does not make the USA a dictatorship, it does not make President Trump a dictator and it is not impeachable, but the Democrats might try, making those predictions we have been reading about in the media come true.

I support a real zero tolerance illegal immigration policy and asylum granted only if it is the governments in question doing the abuse, and legal immigration with all their rights respected, not open borders immigration and asylum under any circumstances as most of my critics probably do.

If a Democrat President were to use a political tactic such as this one or any other political tactic on an issue I don't support, I would not like it either, but it doesn't make the USA a dictatorship and it doesn't make the Democrat President a dictator and it would not be impeachable, fair and balanced post.

The Great Wall of Trump could be a major tourist attraction like The Great Wall of China, visited by millions of tourists per year to help pay for the wall, with Mc Donald's, Burger Kings, Pizza Huts and Taco Bells, I would visit The Great Wall of Trump and spend my US money, and on a clear day we can see Mexico from on top The Great Wall of Trump, lol.

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The Fucking Trump Wall will, at best, be a giant rusting eyesore of metal slats or an industrial concrete wart. The only people who will tour it are sycophantics nits who will grow bored quickly as it goes into disrepair and is inevitably covered in grafiti.


Not a single damn person visits the Great Wall because it is a wall.

This notion that it will be a hige tourist destination is simply delusional.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:10 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I think you're overvaluing marriage like it's some sort of sacred institution. It's just the official government recognition of a union between two people. Removing that doesn't really change love or anything really.

And you don't need a government officiate a marriage. For all the legal stuff, yes, but for getting married itself just go to a masjid/church/synagouge/temple


Churches will generally not marry a couple that doesn't have a marriage license.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:13 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And you don't need a government officiate a marriage. For all the legal stuff, yes, but for getting married itself just go to a masjid/church/synagouge/temple


Churches will generally not marry a couple that doesn't have a marriage license.


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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:13 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Churches will generally not marry a couple that doesn't have a marriage license.


Perhaps not where you're at...


Really? But what about the banns and shit?

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Postby Augustus Legions » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:13 pm

hello, it is I, the oracle of Newark, I hereby decree that the 2020 election will be as bad as 1800 and 1824.
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Postby Cetacea » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:17 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And you don't need a government officiate a marriage. For all the legal stuff, yes, but for getting married itself just go to a masjid/church/synagouge/temple


Churches will generally not marry a couple that doesn't have a marriage license.


I'm sure the officiating priest/pastor is able to make an exception on the understanding that the licence will be sought as soon as the office is open again

any priest that refuses to perform the sacrament because of a legal fuck up isn't one I'd want to officiate at my major life events any way

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:20 pm

Augustus Legions wrote:hello, it is I, the oracle of Newark, I hereby decree that the 2020 election will be as bad as 1800 and 1824.

Nah, nothing will ever top the 1860 election.
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Postby Augustus Legions » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:27 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Augustus Legions wrote:hello, it is I, the oracle of Newark, I hereby decree that the 2020 election will be as bad as 1800 and 1824.

Nah, nothing will ever top the 1860 election.

Chief, I am here to tell you the 2069 election will be lit as heck.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:30 pm

Augustus Legions wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Nah, nothing will ever top the 1860 election.

Chief, I am here to tell you the 2069 election will be lit as heck.

Even for the 69 joke there isn't going to be a general election in the US in 2069. Unless something really fucks up.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:37 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Perhaps not where you're at...


Really? But what about the banns and shit?


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Postby Augustus Legions » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:50 pm

Heloin wrote:
Augustus Legions wrote:Chief, I am here to tell you the 2069 election will be lit as heck.

Even for the 69 joke there isn't going to be a general election in the US in 2069. Unless something really fucks up.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:51 pm

Heloin wrote:
Augustus Legions wrote:Chief, I am here to tell you the 2069 election will be lit as heck.

Even for the 69 joke there isn't going to be a general election in the US in 2069. Unless something really fucks up.

Or changes for the better. Maybe the US will have elections every year or three years..
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:39 pm

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Valrifell wrote:
I think he's mistaking your tendancy to put things in several (usually three) quote markes with the echo tags which is an antisemetic dog whistle and against site rules.


Yeah, Iunno what an echo tag is. But apparently I'm being accused of anti-semitism?

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Yeah, Iunno what an echo tag is. But apparently I'm being accused of anti-semitism?

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Postby Misthas » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:44 pm

Southerniva wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

Not an American but the fact that this shutdown was over a wall of all things shows how bad the current administration is.

Yeah, but have you also heard that plenty of people can't get officially married or get marriage licenses during government shutdown?

Because when I learned about this a week ago, I felt so sad for anyone going through that.

Most people be like "Your marriage isn't that important than the other problems going on", well like fuck them no offense. (And I don't regret saying that either)

Yeah I perfectly understand that your wedding and marriage is not the most important thing in the world obviously. But to really be shut a cold heartless asshole who doesn't care about other people especially when it comes to wanting to have the happiest thing to happen to them, then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

I mean like what the actual fuck? :o

So what you're saying is that marriage registrars should still work unpaid cause they should care about other peoples' marraiges?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:05 pm

Misthas wrote:
Southerniva wrote:Yeah, but have you also heard that plenty of people can't get officially married or get marriage licenses during government shutdown?

Because when I learned about this a week ago, I felt so sad for anyone going through that.

Most people be like "Your marriage isn't that important than the other problems going on", well like fuck them no offense. (And I don't regret saying that either)

Yeah I perfectly understand that your wedding and marriage is not the most important thing in the world obviously. But to really be shut a cold heartless asshole who doesn't care about other people especially when it comes to wanting to have the happiest thing to happen to them, then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

I mean like what the actual fuck? :o

So what you're saying is that marriage registrars should still work unpaid cause they should care about other peoples' marraiges?


What he is saying is that they shouldn't be unpaid in the first place.

But they are, thanks to Trump and his temper tantrum over the fact that congress said no to the wall.
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Postby Misthas » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:29 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Misthas wrote:So what you're saying is that marriage registrars should still work unpaid cause they should care about other peoples' marraiges?


What he is saying is that they shouldn't be unpaid in the first place.

But they are, thanks to Trump and his temper tantrum over the fact that congress said no to the wall.

Yes, but there are more important things to focus on.
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From the ruins of Minthas, we have risen

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COMF NEWS: The 5th Armored Division, 76th Paratrooper Regiment "Henrich Weibel" and 4th Airborne Division are being transported to the southern Magyarijan border to combat the imperialist aggressors.

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