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Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:00 pm**

The Rich Port wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Because it's the fucking truth.

Many Dems have openly showed negative or occasionally outright hostile views of the Second Amendment.

Which, yeah, they have valid complaints against it.

The evidence is against the Second Amendment, and I say that as a pro-gun advocate who owns guns himself.

"""Evidence"""

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:02 pm**

Bahktar wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Crimminal record (Felons can't vote), political affiliation, drug-use, and mental health assessments (crimminally insane), for starters.

There has also been talk about capping the max voting age to 55.

There has been no serious talk of capping the max voting age to 55. At most, I can find this petition, which has 17 supporters.
https://www.change.org/p/impose-a-manda ... -age-of-55

And it's blatantly unconstitutional.

"The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:10 pm**

Vassenor wrote:
Bahktar wrote:
There has been no serious talk of capping the max voting age to 55. At most, I can find this petition, which has 17 supporters.
https://www.change.org/p/impose-a-manda ... -age-of-55

And it's blatantly unconstitutional.

"The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."

Unless SCOTUS says it isnt.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:12 pm**

Telconi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And it's blatantly unconstitutional.

"The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."

Unless SCOTUS says it isnt.

Isn't the SCOTUS there to interpret the constitution and if the constitution clearly states that people that are 18 or older, have the right to vote, what is there to interpret to make 55 year old & older people voting illegal?

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:13 pm**

Bahktar wrote:
Telconi wrote:

Unless SCOTUS says it isnt.

Isn't the SCOTUS there to interpret the constitution and if the constitution clearly states that people that are 18 or older, have the right to vote, what is there to interpret to make 55 year old & older people voting illegal?

Sounds like a really good topic for a different thread.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:13 pm**

Bahktar wrote:
Telconi wrote:

Unless SCOTUS says it isnt.

Isn't the SCOTUS there to interpret the constitution and if the constitution clearly states that people that are 18 or older, have the right to vote, what is there to interpret to make 55 year old & older people voting illegal?

That clause seems pretty straightforward, even people with the most loose interpretations of the Constitution would struggle finding a voting age cap constitutional. Well, except those that exist in Telconi's mind.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:18 pm**

I don't think it would necessitate a new thread, although I believe you said that more so to prevent a threadjack. Apologies.

Anyway, how long do you guys think the shutdown will go into? I think it's pretty clear it's gonna pass the record, but do you think it'll go into January?

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:18 pm**

Bahktar wrote:I don't think it would necessitate a new thread, although I believe you said that more so to prevent a threadjack. Apologies.

Anyway, how long do you guys think the shutdown will go into? I think it's pretty clear it's gonna pass the record, but do you think it'll go into January?

Into which month?

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:19 pm**

Farnhamia wrote:
Bahktar wrote:I don't think it would necessitate a new thread, although I believe you said that more so to prevent a threadjack. Apologies.

Anyway, how long do you guys think the shutdown will go into? I think it's pretty clear it's gonna pass the record, but do you think it'll go into January?

Into which month?

I meant February, whoops.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:19 pm**

Farnhamia wrote:
Bahktar wrote:I don't think it would necessitate a new thread, although I believe you said that more so to prevent a threadjack. Apologies.

Anyway, how long do you guys think the shutdown will go into? I think it's pretty clear it's gonna pass the record, but do you think it'll go into January?

Into which month?

January 2020

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:21 pm**

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:22 pm**

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:oof

shocking for many Republicans

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:43 pm**

Bahktar wrote:I don't think it would necessitate a new thread, although I believe you said that more so to prevent a threadjack. Apologies.

Anyway, how long do you guys think the shutdown will go into? I think it's pretty clear it's gonna pass the record, but do you think it'll go into January?

Indefinitely. Trump and friends worked really hard on dismantling the enemy state to the point of indefinite government shutdown. They'll keep it that way until they can devise their next plan on how to further destabilize the american society.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:55 pm**

Bahktar wrote:I don't think it would necessitate a new thread, although I believe you said that more so to prevent a threadjack. Apologies.

Anyway, how long do you guys think the shutdown will go into? I think it's pretty clear it's gonna pass the record, but do you think it'll go into January?

McConnell could find a solution because he's cunning enough and has trumps ear but he's staying out of it. Pelosi has no reason to budge unless she gets something in return. Trump can't climb down without some of his flock realising he's an idiot. I imagine it either results in him trying to claim emergency powers if polling takes a serious turn or Fox news pressures him to or he gets half the money for the border in return for citizenship for the dreamers (I.e. a worse deal than one of the deals he's rejected in the past) which he'll claim as a win because he's an idiot and is supported by idiots who will likely believe him.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:07 pm**

In Guam it is 8:06 Sunday, January 13th. That means:

Day 23! Give it up for day 23!

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:08 pm**

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:In Guam it is 8:06 Sunday, January 13th. That means:

Day 23! Give it up for day 23!

Dibs on Day 30. You heard it here first, folks, I called it, nobody can post it except for me.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:46 pm**

Valrifell wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:In Guam it is 8:06 Sunday, January 13th. That means:

Day 23! Give it up for day 23!

Dibs on Day 30. You heard it here first, folks, I called it, nobody can post it except for me.

Dibs on Day 43.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:55 pm**

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Dibs on Day 30. You heard it here first, folks, I called it, nobody can post it except for me.

Dibs on Day 43.

I'll unironically attempt to perform a Fortnite dance if it hits day 69, because by then, it'll have transcended to meme status.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:09 pm**

Par Chic wrote:
Telconi wrote:
"""Evidence"""

When in doubt, blame the Jews!

Uh, excuse me. But what the fuck?

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:42 pm**

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Dibs on Day 30. You heard it here first, folks, I called it, nobody can post it except for me.

Dibs on Day 43.

The answer is 42.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:23 pm**

Par Chic wrote:
Telconi wrote:
"""Evidence"""

When in doubt, blame the Jews!

No one expects the non sequitur inquisition.

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Dibs on Day 43.

I'll unironically attempt to perform a Fortnite dance if it hits day 69, because by then, it'll have transcended to meme status.

Do the infinite dab and I will give you the title of meme overlord. Or defalt dance. Either is good.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:24 pm**

Telconi wrote:
Par Chic wrote:
When in doubt, blame the Jews!

Uh, excuse me. But what the fuck?

I think he's mistaking your tendancy to put things in several (usually three) quote markes with the echo tags which is an antisemetic dog whistle and against site rules.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:26 pm**

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:This might be the theater they have to go through in order to sell their undermining the President at this point. They have to make the college try to meet the president so they can go, "Look, we tried to meet his needs and he wasn't agreeable so we had to turn to the democrats to get this done."

...I am starting to consider the theory that the establishment Republicans have begun to plot against him.

Honestly, a coup? Not gonna be surprised.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:29 pm**

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:

Uh, excuse me. But what the fuck?

I think he's mistaking your tendancy to put things in several (usually three) quote markes with the echo tags which is an antisemetic dog whistle and against site rules.

Yeah, Iunno what an echo tag is. But apparently I'm being accused of anti-semitism?

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:55 pm**

lol, too my many critics who I am sure enjoyed their posts, at least I call both Republicans and Democrats, non political saints equally, both sides not just the Republicans, not just the Democrats, both sides, fair and balanced post.

Under the circumstances of the Democrats intransigence on the legal and illegal immigration issue which is a serious issue in the USA and all over the world, I say use the political tactic, declare the emergency and build The Great Wall of Trump, it does not make the USA a dictatorship, it does not make President Trump a dictator and it is not impeachable, but the Democrats might try, making those predictions we have been reading about in the media come true.

I support a real zero tolerance illegal immigration policy and asylum granted only if it is the governments in question doing the abuse, and legal immigration with all their rights respected, not open borders immigration and asylum under any circumstances as most of my critics probably do.

If a Democrat President were to use a political tactic such as this one or any other political tactic on an issue I don't support, I would not like it either, but it doesn't make the USA a dictatorship and it doesn't make the Democrat President a dictator and it would not be impeachable, fair and balanced post.

The Great Wall of Trump could be a major tourist attraction like The Great Wall of China, visited by millions of tourists per year to help pay for the wall, with Mc Donald's, Burger Kings, Pizza Huts and Taco Bells, I would visit The Great Wall of Trump and spend my US money, and on a clear day we can see Mexico from on top The Great Wall of Trump, lol.

https://www.travelchinaguide.com/china_great_wall/

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