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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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77%
No
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Total votes : 134

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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:39 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
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Have... Have you ever worked on a farm?

Animals die on farms. Yes, that includes cute fluffy kittens. A poem was written on the subject.


Yes, yes they do, pretty regularly.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:42 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:We shouldn't be giving handouts to those farms anyway. Most of the money goes to large corporations with enough to spare.

Ah yes, handouts. So much for keeping a steady supply of food.

You can manage the food supply without kneeling to corrupt plutocrats.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:42 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:Ah yes, handouts. So much for keeping a steady supply of food.

You can manage the food supply without kneeling to corrupt plutocrats.

You tell that to the farmers who lose their farms when the money runs out

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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:44 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:Ah yes, handouts. So much for keeping a steady supply of food.

You can manage the food supply without kneeling to corrupt plutocrats.

Oh you can? Do you have knowledge in the economics of farming?

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Republicanana
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Postby Republicanana » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:46 pm

Is it just me or are we where since the proposed deal by President Trump crashed and burned today, are we the most "no end in sight" at any point during this shutdown?

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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:49 pm

Republicanana wrote:Is it just me or are we where since the proposed deal by President Trump crashed and burned today, are we the most "no end in sight" at any point during this shutdown?

I just wish they could table the wall discussion, pass a bill to reopen the government and pay their damn employees, then resume bitching about the wall. It's a hostage situation at this point, and people are right to be concerned about it.

That being said, compromise? This Administration + opposing party? I doubt this will get resolved by February.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:50 pm

Republicanana wrote:Is it just me or are we where since the proposed deal by President Trump crashed and burned today, are we the most "no end in sight" at any point during this shutdown?

Oh yeah the Shut down, I guess we should start talking about that.

Yeah, the US is back to square one.

Petty man baby president whining about his wall.

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Salandriagado
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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I'd rather not see taxpayer money end up in the coffers of large corporations. Food shortages aren't that simple to trigger.

Those subsidies are not going to large corporations. They are going to farmers who treat their animals with dignity unlike some corporations


They go overwhelmingly to large, corporate farms.
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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:56 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:He can continue his petty arguing without forcing 800,000 Americans to live without pay you know.

We should just fire them.

Nah, fuck that 100%.
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Des-Bal
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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:57 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:[
Nah, fuck that 100%.


I think it's a great idea since many of these people are working unpaid to make sure the country doesn't fall to shit.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:You can manage the food supply without kneeling to corrupt plutocrats.

You tell that to the farmers who lose their farms when the money runs out

I will laugh heartily as colossal industrial farms pay for their own stuff.
Lockdownn wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:You can manage the food supply without kneeling to corrupt plutocrats.

Oh you can? Do you have knowledge in the economics of farming?

Beyond my own experience in the field, I have enough knowledge to say that keeping food prices artificially low isn't good, nor is supporting corruption.
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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:00 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:[
Nah, fuck that 100%.


I think it's a great idea since many of these people are working unpaid to make sure the country doesn't fall to shit.

I can't wait for the next terrorist attack because the TSA could give even less shits about their job.

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:01 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
I think it's a great idea since many of these people are working unpaid to make sure the country doesn't fall to shit.

I can't wait for the next terrorist attack because the TSA could give even less shits about their job.

>what is private security
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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:03 pm

Northern Davincia wrote: nor is supporting corruption.

Why not? It's definitely a good thing. Everybody votes for it. :roll:

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:05 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
I think it's a great idea since many of these people are working unpaid to make sure the country doesn't fall to shit.

I can't wait for the next terrorist attack because the TSA could give even less shits about their job.

Or a heavy influx of drug trafficking and an increase in deaths at sea because there’s no more Coast Guard either.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:06 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:He can continue his petty arguing without forcing 800,000 Americans to live without pay you know.

We should just fire them.

Fire the entire US coast guard. Yet another bad idea from NSG.

Because Trump wasn't disrespectful enough to US soldiers after not showing up to a gravesite beacuse a little rain.

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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:06 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:I can't wait for the next terrorist attack because the TSA could give even less shits about their job.

>what is private security

That, as far as I'm aware, has only been implemented in San Francisco's airport. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

That being said, I wholeheartedly support privatizing the Airline Security industry. Not only is it faster, more convenient, and more effective, but the people aren't unemotional government drones who aren't held to the same standard as a privatized employee would.

TSA --> Dollar Tree of Security.

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:06 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote: nor is supporting corruption.

Why not? It's definitely a good thing. Everybody votes for it. :roll:

Hillary pls the election is over
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:I can't wait for the next terrorist attack because the TSA could give even less shits about their job.

Or a heavy influx of drug trafficking and an increase in deaths at sea because there’s no more Coast Guard either.

End the war on drugs and legalize as much as we can, as fast as we can.
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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:07 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:I can't wait for the next terrorist attack because the TSA could give even less shits about their job.

Or a heavy influx of drug trafficking and an increase in deaths at sea because there’s no more Coast Guard either.

Obviously #FakeNews. The Mexicans can't swim, right?

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:09 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lockdownn wrote:Why not? It's definitely a good thing. Everybody votes for it. :roll:

Hillary pls the election is over
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Or a heavy influx of drug trafficking and an increase in deaths at sea because there’s no more Coast Guard either.

End the war on drugs and legalize as much as we can, as fast as we can.

You know the USCG does more than just deal with drugs, right? Maritime safety and security is pretty important.
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- Choice
- Environmental protections
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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:11 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:Hillary pls the election is over

Who? I thought that she was an irrelevant failed 2016 candidate? Oh wait, she keeps being brought up because.... reasons?
Northern Davincia wrote:End the war on drugs and legalize as much as we can, as fast as we can.

Smoking cocaine while riding a lawn mower through a Walmart would be fun wouldn't it?

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:13 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Hillary pls the election is over

End the war on drugs and legalize as much as we can, as fast as we can.

You know the USCG does more than just deal with drugs, right? Maritime safety and security is pretty important.

Fuse the USCG with the navy.
Lockdownn wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Hillary pls the election is over

Who? I thought that she was an irrelevant failed 2016 candidate? Oh wait, she keeps being brought up because.... reasons?
Northern Davincia wrote:End the war on drugs and legalize as much as we can, as fast as we can.

Smoking cocaine while riding a lawn mower through a Walmart would be fun wouldn't it?

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.
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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:15 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:You know the USCG does more than just deal with drugs, right? Maritime safety and security is pretty important.

Fuse the USCG with the navy.

And fuse the Army with the Marines while we're at it too huh?

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The South Falls
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Postby The South Falls » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:16 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Fuse the USCG with the navy.

And fuse the Army with the Marines while we're at it too huh?

Fuse the air force with the national guard.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:16 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Fuse the USCG with the navy.

And fuse the Army with the Marines while we're at it too huh?

Tempting...
We can fuse the Space Force with the Air Force too.
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