invade[in-veyd]
verb (used with object), in·vad·ed, in·vad·ing.
to enter forcefully as an enemy; go into with hostile intent:
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by Vassenor » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:26 am
invade[in-veyd]
verb (used with object), in·vad·ed, in·vad·ing.
to enter forcefully as an enemy; go into with hostile intent:
by Purpelia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:26 am
Vassenor wrote:This is your daily reminder that words actually mean things.
by Vassenor » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:27 am
Purpelia wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Kids brought across the border between 2008-2017 aren’t invaders. Actually no immigrant legal or otherwise is an invader
Every person that enters a nation illegally for the purposes of appropriating which would otherwise have gone to legitimate citizens its resources is by definition either a raider or invader depending on if he intends to stay or take the loot home.
by Thermodolia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:29 am
Purpelia wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Kids brought across the border between 2008-2017 aren’t invaders. Actually no immigrant legal or otherwise is an invader
Every person that enters a nation illegally for the purposes of appropriating which would otherwise have gone to legitimate citizens its resources is by definition either a raider or invader depending on if he intends to stay or take the loot home.
by The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:29 am
by Purpelia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:31 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Purpelia wrote:But they also asked for protection for invaders in the same package. Anything packaged with that is just unacceptable poison and they know it.
Why would that be posion ? Trump himself wants to CUT funding from the aforementioned coast guard (and has in fact already done so) - so clearly he does not truly mind immigration.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:33 am
Thermodolia wrote:Purpelia wrote:Every person that enters a nation illegally for the purposes of appropriating which would otherwise have gone to legitimate citizens its resources is by definition either a raider or invader depending on if he intends to stay or take the loot home.
Whatever.
Anyway that proposal I mentioned earlier? Ya Trump supported that, until Fox News and Co called him a pussy
by Vassenor » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:33 am
Purpelia wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:Why would that be posion ? Trump himself wants to CUT funding from the aforementioned coast guard (and has in fact already done so) - so clearly he does not truly mind immigration.
Because it's not what the actual end results will be but what the perceived ones in the minds of the voters are. Seriously, this is politics 101.
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:40 am
Purpelia wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:it appears that Trump has successfully demonstrated that Democratic politicians care more about opposing him then in making sure government workers get paid
this should have interesting ramifications for the next election
And the american republic in general.
Really the whole situation in the western world recent years reminds me eerily of the late Roman republic. The democracy is failing its people. Elites are pursuing their own insane moralisms whilst the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. So they turn to populists which in turn are hated and reviled by the elites.
The scary thing is if Orban, Trump and their like are your Gracchus who is going to be your Cesar. In my lifetime we will probably find out.
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:41 am
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:42 am
by Vassenor » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:42 am
Tobleste wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/13/shutdown-americans-blame-trumpABC News and the Washington Post released a poll that followed trends when it showed 53% of respondents saying Trump and Republicans in Congress were to blame for the shutdown, with 29% blaming Democrats and 13% a combination. Support for building a border wall, the issue at the heart of the shutdown, increased to 42%, from 34% in January 2018. Among Republicans, 87% supported a wall.
So 66% blame republicans and 42% blame democrats. 4D chess.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:10 am
Purpelia wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Which is why the Democrats are the ones who keep trying to get bills passed to get the government funded and everyone paid, and the Republicans are the ones that keep blocking those bills.
But tell me more about how it's the Democrats who don't want people to get paid.
They aren't trying unless they give him the wall. Trying would mean giving him the wall and asking for something in return.
You aren't compromising unless you give the other side what they want as well.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:31 am
by Purpelia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:32 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Purpelia wrote:They aren't trying unless they give him the wall. Trying would mean giving him the wall and asking for something in return.
You aren't compromising unless you give the other side what they want as well.
No. They shouldn't give him the wall. The wall is useless and too damn expensive.
On top of that, that sets a precedent that the President can just shut down goverment whenever congress doesnt roll over on command.
This is Trump's fault for starting the shutdown.
by Adavoya » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:39 am
Purpelia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
No. They shouldn't give him the wall. The wall is useless and too damn expensive.
On top of that, that sets a precedent that the President can just shut down goverment whenever congress doesnt roll over on command.
This is Trump's fault for starting the shutdown.
Precedents do not give people the right to do things. They merely demonstrate the flaws in the system that allowed them to occur. Why people cherish them rather than seeing them as a call for reform is anyone's guess.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:41 am
Purpelia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
No. They shouldn't give him the wall. The wall is useless and too damn expensive.
On top of that, that sets a precedent that the President can just shut down goverment whenever congress doesnt roll over on command.
This is Trump's fault for starting the shutdown.
Precedents do not give people the right to do things. They merely demonstrate the flaws in the system that allowed them to occur. Why people cherish them rather than seeing them as a call for reform is anyone's guess.
by Thermodolia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:00 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Purpelia wrote:And the american republic in general.
Really the whole situation in the western world recent years reminds me eerily of the late Roman republic. The democracy is failing its people. Elites are pursuing their own insane moralisms whilst the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. So they turn to populists which in turn are hated and reviled by the elites.
The scary thing is if Orban, Trump and their like are your Gracchus who is going to be your Cesar. In my lifetime we will probably find out.
this sounds like a job for me
now if only I had American citizenship
by Thermodolia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:01 am
by Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:19 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Purpelia wrote:And the american republic in general.
Really the whole situation in the western world recent years reminds me eerily of the late Roman republic. The democracy is failing its people. Elites are pursuing their own insane moralisms whilst the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. So they turn to populists which in turn are hated and reviled by the elites.
The scary thing is if Orban, Trump and their like are your Gracchus who is going to be your Cesar. In my lifetime we will probably find out.
this sounds like a job for me
now if only I had American citizenship
by Vassenor » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:20 am
by Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:22 am
by Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:22 am
by Vassenor » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:23 am
by The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:25 am
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