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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 134

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Corrian
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:55 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:28 Days Without Government Later

I had a theory that is what you were posting. Props.
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Bahktar
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Postby Bahktar » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:59 pm

Par Chic wrote:Are you joking?


No, I'm not. Saying there's going to be a civil war is needless fear-mongering on an unprecedented scale. Everything is blown out of proportion in the media and such. The truth is, most Americans aren't going to shoot each other because they believe in an ideology. On the other hand, there's also the US Armed Forces to enforce the constitution and also the fact that most Americans probably don't see ideology as a enough motivational factor. The USA is a developed country, isn't in an economic crisis, isn't losing a war, doesn't have a large portion of it's population under the poverty line and simply doesn't really follow most of the requirements for a civil war. Political disagreements aren't enough for that.
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Postby Bahktar » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:09 pm

Par Chic wrote:Because Charlottesville never happened...


While Charlottesville is an indicator that politicians need to be more careful and need to calm down their rhetoric, Charlottesville occurring doesn't mean the USA is heading for a civil war. You do also know that the next "Unite The Right 2" had only 20 participants?

As I said, the idea that the USA is heading for civil war is fear-mongering right now. I don't see any indicators of a civil war, nor a reason for one.
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:10 pm

Bahktar wrote:
Par Chic wrote:Because Charlottesville never happened...


While Charlottesville is an indicator that politicians need to be more careful and need to calm down their rhetoric, Charlottesville occurring doesn't mean the USA is heading for a civil war. You do also know that the next "Unite The Right 2" had only 20 participants?

Because of antifa. And I personally congratulate them for that.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:29 pm

Par Chic wrote:
Bahktar wrote:
No, I'm not. Saying there's going to be a civil war is needless fear-mongering on an unprecedented scale. Everything is blown out of proportion in the media and such. The truth is, most Americans aren't going to shoot each other because they believe in an ideology. On the other hand, there's also the US Armed Forces to enforce the constitution and also the fact that most Americans probably don't see ideology as a enough motivational factor. The USA is a developed country, isn't in an economic crisis, isn't losing a war, doesn't have a large portion of it's population under the poverty line and simply doesn't really follow most of the requirements for a civil war. Political disagreements aren't enough for that.


Because Charlottesville never happened...


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Corrian
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:56 pm

Par Chic wrote:
Bahktar wrote:
No, I'm not. Saying there's going to be a civil war is needless fear-mongering on an unprecedented scale. Everything is blown out of proportion in the media and such. The truth is, most Americans aren't going to shoot each other because they believe in an ideology. On the other hand, there's also the US Armed Forces to enforce the constitution and also the fact that most Americans probably don't see ideology as a enough motivational factor. The USA is a developed country, isn't in an economic crisis, isn't losing a war, doesn't have a large portion of it's population under the poverty line and simply doesn't really follow most of the requirements for a civil war. Political disagreements aren't enough for that.


Because Charlottesville never happened...

What does Charlottesville have to do with anything? Things like that happen every now and then. Things are a little tense but that isn't a sign of "Oh, civil war"
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:57 pm

Par Chic wrote:
Bahktar wrote:
No, I'm not. Saying there's going to be a civil war is needless fear-mongering on an unprecedented scale. Everything is blown out of proportion in the media and such. The truth is, most Americans aren't going to shoot each other because they believe in an ideology. On the other hand, there's also the US Armed Forces to enforce the constitution and also the fact that most Americans probably don't see ideology as a enough motivational factor. The USA is a developed country, isn't in an economic crisis, isn't losing a war, doesn't have a large portion of it's population under the poverty line and simply doesn't really follow most of the requirements for a civil war. Political disagreements aren't enough for that.


Because Charlottesville never happened...

Thats not a sign a civil war is brewing. Many of those people were outed and fired from their jobs

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:08 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Bahktar wrote:
While Charlottesville is an indicator that politicians need to be more careful and need to calm down their rhetoric, Charlottesville occurring doesn't mean the USA is heading for a civil war. You do also know that the next "Unite The Right 2" had only 20 participants?

Because of antifa. And I personally congratulate them for that.

antifa also assaulted a liberal for carrying a US flag, calling it a "fascist symbol".

So, antifa can fuck off.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:09 pm

So is he really going to do it and declare a national emergency?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9504764930

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:So is he really going to do it and declare a national emergency?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9504764930


Hopefully not. Hopefully it's just more fear mongering BS.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:15 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So is he really going to do it and declare a national emergency?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9504764930


Hopefully not. Hopefully it's just more fear mongering BS.

I hope but one never knows with him

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West Leas Oros 2
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:So is he really going to do it and declare a national emergency?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9504764930

I give up. The US government will be shutdown forever.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:17 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So is he really going to do it and declare a national emergency?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9504764930

I give up. The US government will be shutdown forever.

It can't. Someone has to give at some point and its nor going to be Pelosi
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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:So is he really going to do it and declare a national emergency?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9504764930


Cue Rick & Morty's "Pull the trigger!" skit.

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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:40 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So is he really going to do it and declare a national emergency?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9504764930

I give up. The US government will be shutdown forever.


This is defeatism to it's irrational conclusion. It's been going on whole days longer since the last longest shutdown so, for some reason, this is undeniable proof that the government is fucked forever.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:42 pm

Valrifell wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I give up. The US government will be shutdown forever.


This is defeatism to it's irrational conclusion. It's been going on whole days longer since the last longest shutdown so, for some reason, this is undeniable proof that the government is fucked forever.

Revolution?
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Postby New haven america » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:42 pm

Valrifell wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I give up. The US government will be shutdown forever.


This is defeatism to it's irrational conclusion. It's been going on whole days longer since the last longest shutdown so, for some reason, this is undeniable proof that the government is fucked forever.

I mean, the government is fucked forever.

Been that way since the 1900's.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:42 pm

Valrifell wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I give up. The US government will be shutdown forever.


This is defeatism to it's irrational conclusion. It's been going on whole days longer since the last longest shutdown so, for some reason, this is undeniable proof that the government is fucked forever.

I mean, the trump administration has delivered disappointment quite consistently.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:44 pm

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
This is defeatism to it's irrational conclusion. It's been going on whole days longer since the last longest shutdown so, for some reason, this is undeniable proof that the government is fucked forever.

Revolution?

No republicans should stab their base in the back and impeach him

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Postby Eahland » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:52 pm

Par Chic wrote:Because Charlottesville never happened...

Not to downplay the seriousness of Charlottesville, but there's a lot of space between Nazis murdering someone at a rally, or a bunch of wingnuts seizing control of a federal building and ending up getting shot and/or arrested by the FBI, and an actual rebel army opening fire on a U.S. Army base with artillery. We haven't even hit National Guard opening fire on peaceful protesters levels of domestic unrest.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:54 pm

New haven america wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
This is defeatism to it's irrational conclusion. It's been going on whole days longer since the last longest shutdown so, for some reason, this is undeniable proof that the government is fucked forever.

I mean, the government is fucked forever.

Been that way since the 1900's.


Please, the Republic has been in a constant state of disrepair and corruption since its inception. We've only gotten this far thanks to our abundant natural resources and intermittent breaks in the anarchy.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Revolution?

No republicans should stab their base in the back and impeach him

They aren’t going to commit political suicide for San Lumen.

Revolution is better
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:57 pm

Valrifell wrote:
New haven america wrote:I mean, the government is fucked forever.

Been that way since the 1900's.


Please, the Republic has been in a constant state of disrepair and corruption since its inception. We've only gotten this far thanks to our abundant natural resources and intermittent breaks in the anarchy.

Hey we are great when we aren’t fighting ourselves
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No republicans should stab their base in the back and impeach him

They aren’t going to commit political suicide for San Lumen.

Revolution is better

For the good of the country they should

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