US Government Shutdown- It's Over!... For Now

[Galloism]

Their pay is mandated by the constitution, IIRC. They literally can't refuse it.

They could take the check and put it in a drawer I guess, but they can't literally refuse it.

What's the punishment for refusing?

Probably they mail the check to them.

[Internationalist Bastard]

What's the punishment for refusing?

The Secret Service comes to your house, forces you to eat a Big Mac, and then leaves a check on your broken, battered corpse.

How did you get my pornhub search history?

[The Rich Port]

The Secret Service comes to your house, forces you to eat a Big Mac, and then leaves a check on your broken, battered corpse.

How did you get my pornhub search history?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KeE4IO0l8c

[Salandriagado]

As far as I know there is no legal requirement it has to be direct address to Congress.

He cannot, as it would infringe on the powers of Congress far, far too much. He could give an informal State of the Union, but he cannot force his way into the Capitol building and force Congress to hear his SotU address without their consent.

Executive orders only apply to power that exist within the operation of a President's power. This has been applied liberally in the past, but it has always remained limited to justifiable means.


He does not, however, have the power to compel Congress to do anything. The reality is that in terms of governance, the President is no more powerful than the House or Senate as a body. The President is politically equal in weight to the bodies of Congress. He is not their leader, he os their equal and they his.

The only requirement for the State of the Union is:

He shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.

That's it. He can do it over Twitter if he likes: all he has to do is tell them what's going on, and what he thinks they should work on. Everything past that is just tradition.

[Salandriagado]

Well that and the First Secretary of NI doesn’t want to call another election until Brexit is finalized. I wonder why

Because the DUP is essentially May's lifeline?

No, actually: this has nothing to do with Westminster. It's just that SF and the DUP can't come to a power sharing agreement, so they don't get a government until they can grow up and learn to cooperate. Current expected date for that is "some time after all of the protons in the universe have decayed away".

[Salandriagado]

All the government employees that aren’t getting paid since, you know, that gotta pay bills and eat too.

They will always get paid.

I'm sure "you'll get paid eventually" will be a big comfort to them when they can't pay their rent at the end of the month.

[Vassenor]

They will always get paid.

I'm sure "you'll get paid eventually" will be a big comfort to them when they can't pay their rent at the end of the month.

According to Trump that's their fault for being Democrats.

[Chernoslavia]

They will always get paid.

I'm sure "you'll get paid eventually" will be a big comfort to them when they can't pay their rent at the end of the month.

That’d be funny.

[Chernoslavia]

I'm sure "you'll get paid eventually" will be a big comfort to them when they can't pay their rent at the end of the month.

According to Trump that's their fault for being Democrats.

You know damn well the Democrats aren’t doing jack to help.

[Salandriagado]

A smart politician would either refuse to receive payment while government workers aren't getting paid, or donate their paychecks if they are able, in sympathy with the people suffering from the shutdown.

I don't know of any who have done so.

Their pay is mandated by the constitution, IIRC. They literally can't refuse it.

They could take the check and put it in a drawer I guess, but they can't literally refuse it.

They could set up a fund to help the furloughed workers pay bills, and donate all of their pay to it.

[Galloism]

Their pay is mandated by the constitution, IIRC. They literally can't refuse it.

They could take the check and put it in a drawer I guess, but they can't literally refuse it.

They could set up a fund to help the furloughed workers pay bills, and donate all of their pay to it.

THAT they could do. If they did the proper 501(c)3 paperwork, it would probably even be tax deductible.

[Ifreann]

Is it too much to ask for the president to grow up, act like an adult, and not throw a temper tantrum the moment he doesn't get what he wants?

Evidently, yes.

[Shofercia]

One more day and then end it. That'll be the new record!

You kidding? We're making America Bankrupt Again.

We're going the fucking distance on this stupid shit, baby.

Nope. I had a bet that it'll end on Day 27. I know that I cannot change the outcome, but I can at least cheer for my bet

[Cannot think of a name]

They could set up a fund to help the furloughed workers pay bills, and donate all of their pay to it.

THAT they could do. If they did the proper 501(c)3 paperwork, it would probably even be tax deductible.

Awesome, they'll just need to file the paperwork with the proper governm-D'oh!

[The Rich Port]

You kidding? We're making America Bankrupt Again.

We're going the fucking distance on this stupid shit, baby.

Nope. I had a bet that it'll end on Day 27. I know that I cannot change the outcome, but I can at least cheer for my bet

I'm on Day 30... Wanna double down. (╯￣◞ ￣）╯︵ ┻━┻

[Cannot think of a name]

All the government employees that aren’t getting paid since, you know, that gotta pay bills and eat too.

They will always get paid.

Ones who are being asked to work now without pay. Ones who are temporarily laid off, not as clear. Government contractors whose contracts are put on hold and therefore so are their employees, not so much. The people who needed the services provided who cannot avail themselves of services are effected.

We've been over this. It's a googleable thing, you weren't looking for the answer. You were trying to suggest that since we haven't gathered behind a circle of buses at an oil well while Humungus asks us to 'just walk away', the shutdown has no affect. It'd be disingenuous to even call that an argument. Take your hacky played out nonsense to the Yahoo comments section.

[Major-Tom]

So who are the ones suffering from this government shutdown again?

800,000 workers. Seems like a decent number of people. Y'know, hazard pay is great and all, but it becomes more and more meaningless when you have bills to pay, families to feed, while the promise of reimbursement seems so far away.

So, yeah, good number of people are suffering. Not to mention revenue from crucial services, IE National Parks etc. Government shutdowns cost the economy, as well, not just thousands and thousands of families.

[Major-Tom]

I'm sure "you'll get paid eventually" will be a big comfort to them when they can't pay their rent at the end of the month.

That’d be funny.

Sympathetic sentiments ain't your strong suit, I suppose? Suppose you looked at the situation as an outsider, without knowing if Trump, the Dems, or both were at fault. Would you not think "damn, that's gotta be extremely difficult for many families, many of whom live paycheck to paycheck?"

Just a thought.

[Thermodolia]

If everyone made to work without pay refused to show up to work, shutdowns would end in less than 5 minutes. All it takes is solidarity and everyone being willing to come together. One employee who refuses to show up gets fired, but if no one shows up they can't fire all of them.

General Strike when?

I’ve been wanting a general strike of all transportation workers for about an month now.

[Thermodolia]

All the government employees that aren’t getting paid since, you know, that gotta pay bills and eat too.

They will always get paid.

Really now? Because Trump doesn’t want to pay anyone backpay.

[Thermodolia]

Nope. I had a bet that it'll end on Day 27. I know that I cannot change the outcome, but I can at least cheer for my bet

I'm on Day 30... Wanna double down. (╯￣◞ ￣）╯︵ ┻━┻

Four months baby!! Viva la revolución!!

[West Leas Oros 2]

General Strike when?

I’ve been wanting a general strike of all transportation workers for about an month now.

If there’s any kind of strike or protest in my area, I’m 90% joining in.

[Hakons]

General Strike when?

I’ve been wanting a general strike of all transportation workers for about an month now.

Governor, call in the national guard

[Xmara]

I'm on Day 30... Wanna double down. (╯￣◞ ￣）╯︵ ┻━┻

Four months baby!! Viva la revolución!!

Nah, it’s gonna be until Trump leaves office.

[Thermodolia]

I’ve been wanting a general strike of all transportation workers for about an month now.

Governor, call in the national guard

Perfect. More propaganda ammo for my revolution!! National Guard firing on workers striking for better pay makes for great propaganda