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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 134

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Bahktar
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Postby Bahktar » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:05 am

What disturbs me on this thread is the alarming amount of people asking or discussing why the US military doesn't just do a coup d' etat and overthrow Trump and replace him. It's because that's unconstitutional and a grave attack on the separation of powers and freedom in the USA. Imagine what sort of precedent that would make. The military should be separated from internal politics, period.

The only way to constitutionally remove Trump is either to impeach him or to activate the 25th amendment and that's the only way that it should be done. "Whataboutism" in regards to Trump's defamation of the Special Counsel, FBI and his undermining of justice in general isn't a excuse to orchestrate a conspiracy to overthrow the President of the United States illegally.
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United States of Natan
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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:11 am

Then it's a lie. Everything Fox News says is a lie.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:12 am

Bahktar wrote:What disturbs me on this thread is the alarming amount of people asking or discussing why the US military doesn't just do a coup d' etat and overthrow Trump and replace him. It's because that's unconstitutional and a grave attack on the separation of powers and freedom in the USA. Imagine what sort of precedent that would make. The military should be separated from internal politics, period.

The only way to constitutionally remove Trump is either to impeach him or to activate the 25th amendment and that's the only way that it should be done. "Whataboutism" in regards to Trump's defamation of the Special Counsel, FBI and his undermining of justice in general isn't a excuse to orchestrate a conspiracy to overthrow the President of the United States illegally.


At this point, people stopped caring about legality.

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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:13 am

Just once, I wish that the OP would change the title to "US Government Shutdown Day [#]- Give it up for Day [#]!
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:13 am

United States of Natan wrote:Just once, I wish that the OP would change the title to "US Government Shutdown Day [#]- Give it up for Day [#]!


I think they already did for the day the meme actually applies to.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:26 am

Vassenor wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Just once, I wish that the OP would change the title to "US Government Shutdown Day [#]- Give it up for Day [#]!


I think they already did for the day the meme actually applies to.

No, they didn't (and it applies to several days, such as today)
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:27 am

Y'all are disappointing, no revolution...

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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:35 am

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:Whatever happened to the idea of Mexico paying the construction of the wall?


It never existed outside of what I'm generously going to call Trump's thoughts.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:39 am

Xmara wrote:I believe at this point in the shutdown, my late grandmother would start running a tip board and have family members bet on when it ends.

I’m putting my money on February 30th.

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:42 am

The Rich Port wrote:Like I said before, I'm very surprised the Republicans haven't gotten sick of him and just installed Mike Pence instead.

The guy is a hardliner golden boy.

Must be because he's somehow more annoying and uncontrollable than Trump is. Granted, he doesn't strike me that way, but why haven't they installed his white-bread ass, then?


Because Trump would be the first president ever impeached and removed from office, it would be considered a slight by the people who voted for him and a mark of shame on the republican party that would last for a very long time.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:43 am

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Telconi wrote:
Perhaps not where you're at...


Really? But what about the banns and shit?

Doesn’t matter because the feds being closed doesn’t effect the issuance of marriage licenses. That’s handled by the state
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Postby Xmara » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:41 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Heloin wrote:Even for the 69 joke there isn't going to be a general election in the US in 2069. Unless something really fucks up.

Or changes for the better. Maybe the US will have elections every year or three years..


Every year?

What kind of sick joke is this?
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Postby Corrian » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:41 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Southerniva wrote:Yeah, but have you also heard that plenty of people can't get officially married or get marriage licenses during government shutdown?

Because when I learned about this a week ago, I felt so sad for anyone going through that.

Most people be like "Your marriage isn't that important than the other problems going on", well like fuck them no offense. (And I don't regret saying that either)

Yeah I perfectly understand that your wedding and marriage is not the most important thing in the world obviously. But to really be shut a cold heartless asshole who doesn't care about other people especially when it comes to wanting to have the happiest thing to happen to them, then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

I mean like what the actual fuck? :o


Thats bad. People spend loads on a ceremony to get married and then they can't do it?

Don't waste a shit ton on marriage would be a good start in the first place.
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Postby Xmara » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:49 am

Also:

This is the shutdown that never ends.
Yes, it just goes on and on my friends.
Donald Trump wanted a wall and, the Democrats did not,
And they'll continue arguing forever just because...
This is the shutdown that never ends.
Yes, it just goes on and on my friends.
Donald Trump wanted a wall and, the Democrats did not,
And they'll continue arguing forever just because...
This is the shutdown that never ends.
Yes, it just goes on and on my friends.
Donald Trump wanted a wall and, the Democrats did not,
And they'll continue arguing forever just because...
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Postby Corrian » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:50 am

Ism wrote:
Misthas wrote:Yes, but there are more important things to focus on.


We can pay attention to all the issues a shutdown causes. No need to ignore some because they're relatively minor.

It's like that is the topic of the thread or something.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:07 am


Beat you to it :p
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:In Guam it is 8:06 Sunday, January 13th. That means:

Day 23! Give it up for day 23!

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:15 am

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Telconi wrote:
Walls evidently, one way or the other.

I hope so, we need to do something with this illegal immigration and organized Caravans of illegals, since most don't qualify for any kind of asylum.

Border security is important but 5 billion on a useless wall is too much.

Also illegal immigration has been going down.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:21 am

Bahktar wrote:What disturbs me on this thread is the alarming amount of people asking or discussing why the US military doesn't just do a coup d' etat and overthrow Trump and replace him. It's because that's unconstitutional and a grave attack on the separation of powers and freedom in the USA. Imagine what sort of precedent that would make. The military should be separated from internal politics, period.

The only way to constitutionally remove Trump is either to impeach him or to activate the 25th amendment and that's the only way that it should be done. "Whataboutism" in regards to Trump's defamation of the Special Counsel, FBI and his undermining of justice in general isn't a excuse to orchestrate a conspiracy to overthrow the President of the United States illegally.

You're gonna want to get used to that, people on NSG love them some coups.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:44 am

Could the 800,000 federal workers affected, all hand in their notice en masse?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:48 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores wrote:I hope so, we need to do something with this illegal immigration and organized Caravans of illegals, since most don't qualify for any kind of asylum.

Border security is important but 5 billion on a useless wall is too much.

Also illegal immigration has been going down.


But that's not what Trump said. Are you suggesting our dearest leader could be wrong?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:50 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Border security is important but 5 billion on a useless wall is too much.

Also illegal immigration has been going down.


But that's not what Trump said. Are you suggesting our dearest leader could be wrong?


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Postby The South Falls » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:04 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Could the 800,000 federal workers affected, all hand in their notice en masse?

the government would be crippled
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:14 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Could the 800,000 federal workers affected, all hand in their notice en masse?

Yes. I’ve been wanting a general strike to happen since this thing began. Maybe we’ll have our own storming of the Bastille. Or the Republicans will jump ship
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:14 am

The South Falls wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Could the 800,000 federal workers affected, all hand in their notice en masse?

the government would be crippled


It would also hand Trump the chance to hand his long term influence on the country. The workers affected are not law enforcement nor military (with the exception of the coast guard who aren't allowed to quit) are likely democratic leaning. A mass quitting while disaster for the govnerment would also mean he could replace predominately Democratic leaning elements of the bureaucracy with predominately Republican ones would vastly hamstring future administrations ability to move policies left wards.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:16 am

Greed and Death wrote:
The South Falls wrote:the government would be crippled


It would also hand Trump the chance to hand his long term influence on the country. The workers affected are not law enforcement nor military (with the exception of the coast guard who aren't allowed to quit) are likely democratic leaning. A mass quitting while disaster for the govnerment would also mean he could replace predominately Democratic leaning elements of the bureaucracy with predominately Republican ones would vastly hamstring future administrations ability to move policies left wards.


I'm doubtful that they could find 800,000 qualified people who also happened to be Trump supporters.
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